Is the bible a fairy tale?
Libertarian

London, UK

#243 Apr 29, 2013
Fairy tale?!?!?!?

Have any of you actually read the Bible.

It's a horror story. This jealous worship-craving being failing at keeping his creations ignorant then tries to win them over by killing the enemies of a small bronze age nomadic tribe with no morals whatsoever.

Slaughtering more then half the egyptions in one night.
Slaughtering the population of the planet becase he wanted to start again. The Khmer Rouge tried the same thing in Cambodia. We don't see them in quite the same light do we?

He let people be raped for the sins of others, killed 48 children with a bear because they teased a prophet for being bald. Made a father think he had to kill his own child.

Fairy story indeed. Then guess who the big baddie is.

“Sombrero Galaxy”

Since: Jan 10

I'm An Illegal Alien

#244 Apr 29, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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My Lord, you are so off. I do not show hate to anyone. If you attack my God, then I will set you straight. That is called 'Love'
My mother passed when I was young... No one has to believe exactly as I do. God's word says...
John 3:16
16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that 'Who-so-ever' believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life...
You seem bitter and angry, try not to twist my words...
Have a nice day!!!
So the rest of us who do not believe in him shall perish, no matter how good we are? since you Christians believe that God has unlimited power, then why can't he just say "zap, you are saved?"
Amused

Petersham, MA

#245 Apr 29, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Sure, we will mind our own affairs once you start minding yours.
You uh, are still in the Middle East, right?
You also, in point of fact. UK's #2 in number of troops in Afghanistan.

“ IT'S A CHOICE !!!”

Since: Jun 12

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#246 Apr 29, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
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So the rest of us who do not believe in him shall perish, no matter how good we are? since you Christians believe that God has unlimited power, then why can't he just say "zap, you are saved?"
Yes. You can't earn your way to heaven by being good. It must be by faith. God gave us free will, so we are not Stepford children.
God could 'Zap' you into anything if he chose too.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#248 Apr 29, 2013
You're just hungry again fatass. How goes the diet?
Buck Crick wrote:
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I like your name, SausageLegs.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#249 Apr 29, 2013
The bible is a hodge podge collection of heavily rewritten and edited myths.
Carchar king wrote:
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A fairy tale is for children, not something to believe, how stupid are you.

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#250 Apr 29, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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Yes. You can't earn your way to heaven by being good. It must be by faith. God gave us free will, so we are not Stepford children.
God could 'Zap' you into anything if he chose too.
Every letter on your keyboard is a gateway to intellectual embarrassment

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#251 Apr 29, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Every letter on your keyboard is a gateway to intellectual embarrassment
Even "s"?

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#252 Apr 29, 2013
Libertarian wrote:
Fairy tale?!?!?!?
Have any of you actually read the Bible.
It's a horror story. This jealous worship-craving being failing at keeping his creations ignorant then tries to win them over by killing the enemies of a small bronze age nomadic tribe with no morals whatsoever.
Slaughtering more then half the egyptions in one night.
Slaughtering the population of the planet becase he wanted to start again. The Khmer Rouge tried the same thing in Cambodia. We don't see them in quite the same light do we?
He let people be raped for the sins of others, killed 48 children with a bear because they teased a prophet for being bald. Made a father think he had to kill his own child.
Fairy story indeed. Then guess who the big baddie is.
Nobody's perfect.

I once stuck a toothbrush up another inmates ass then made him swallow it.

I once backhanded a guy in the mouth in a movie theatre while wearing an Alabama football bowl ring and it knocked his front tooth into a woman's bag of popcorn behind him.

So see, nobody's perfect.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#253 Apr 29, 2013
What about when you dug the Grand Canyon with your trusty Ox Blue?

:))
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>Nobody's perfect.

I once stuck a toothbrush up another inmates ass then made him swallow it.

I once backhanded a guy in the mouth in a movie theatre while wearing an Alabama football bowl ring and it knocked his front tooth into a woman's bag of popcorn behind him.

So see, nobody's perfect.
Lincoln

United States

#254 Apr 29, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
The Hible is a hodge podge collection of heavily rewritten and edited myths.
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Atheism seems "a hodge podge collection of heavily rewritten" posts ignoring the fact that the Greeks evaluated the idea 3000 years ago.
Circular reasoning Greeks discovered.
Old wine in new bottles :-)

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#255 Apr 29, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Atheism seems "a hodge podge collection of heavily rewritten" posts ignoring the fact that the Greeks evaluated the idea 3000 years ago.
Circular reasoning Greeks discovered.
Old wine in new bottles :-)
Mentally ill theist troll with no proof of god babbling on about atheists he doesn't understand.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#256 Apr 29, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Nobody's perfect.
I once stuck a toothbrush up another inmates ass then made him swallow it.
I once backhanded a guy in the mouth in a movie theatre while wearing an Alabama football bowl ring and it knocked his front tooth into a woman's bag of popcorn behind him.
So see, nobody's perfect.
All creationists are full of sh*t so that makes perfect sense.

“ IT'S A CHOICE !!!”

Since: Jun 12

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#257 Apr 29, 2013
Psalm 118: 7-8

7 The Lord taketh my part with them that help me: therefore shall I see my desire upon them that hate me.

8 It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.

:) KJV
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#258 Apr 29, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
The bible is a hodge podge collection of heavily rewritten and edited myths.
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It's important to separate the new testament from the old, the new is a book of myth, lies and delusion. The old is historically and theologically accurate. the NT didn't fulfill anything in the OT.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#259 Apr 29, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
Yes. You can't earn your way to heaven by being good. It must be by faith.
Actually, the Bible specifically says that people will be judged by their works and not by their faith.
Snevaeh legna wrote:
God gave us free will, so we are not Stepford children.
God could 'Zap' you into anything if he chose too.
Ah, free will.

It always comes back to this. Ok then - care to explain just what "free will" is?

Maybe you'll find a definition in the major works on Christianity.
Here's a link to the Catechism Of The Catholic Church:

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX....

Its 803 pages long and free will doesn't even appear in the index. Clearly free will doesn't figure highly for the vast majority of the world's Christians.

Have you heard of the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia?

No? Well, here it is..

http://www.internationalstandardbible.com/

There are four volumes to it covering a total of just under 4,500 pages. All-in-all, a pretty comprehensive work. There must be a reference to free will in there, eh?

Well...you'll see references for wimples, Moab, power of keys, eunuch, gopher wood, cubit, prayer, etc. You won't find any reference to free will.

What's this all about, eh? Two major and comprehensive works and no mention whatsoever of free will.

Perhaps it's because there's nothing in the Bible that says God gave us free will. That's right, in the whole Bible the subject of God-given free will is conspicuous by its absence.

So when you say that God gave us free will, you're making something up that's not in the Bible.

I'll tell you what is in the Bible though. Scriptures that speak out against free will:

We all know about the incidents where God intervened by hardening people's hearts (Pharaoh & King of Heshbon).

Romans 9:18 tells us how "God chooses to make some people refuse to listen".

Romans 11:32 - "God consigns all men to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them".

Isaiah 63:17 - "Why, Lord, dost thou cause us to stray from thy ways?".

Ephesians 1:11 - Tells us how we were chosen in advance by God and that everything works out in accordance with his plan.

There are other scriptures but it gets tedious hearing pretty much the same thing over and over again. It seems to me that despite what Christians say, according to the Bible, the much-vaunted concept of free will doesn't really have a place in God's world.
Imhotep

Gainesville, FL

#260 Apr 29, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Then you are fortunate; you never got to experience the extreme feelings of loneliness within a crowd, as your doubts came to the surface, but everyone around you appears entirely doubt-free.
Of course?
Now, I know better-- my doubts were hardly unique, and the louder a True Believer™ claims they are doubt-free? The more likely they are plagued with internal doubts ...
... this is especially true of anyone in a position of leadership.
:)
It appears, that the training that a leader goes through? Actually enhances the doubts he or she experiences...
... ironic?
.. yeah...
But also funny as hell...!
Alas the path to non belief is a personal one.
I have no experience because I never had to follow that path.

I'm certain it is quite difficult for someone who is convinced there's a sky daddy, To abandon this the fear is palpable. Theoretically from Theist point of view you are gambling with salvation and immortality

Rubbish there is no such thing
Now that the Internet and the information age are going full blast and a whole generation of youngsters are coming up and have this information at their fingertips... things will change

I'm glad you overcame your struggle with faith

Irony meter goes up on her percent on this I thought you were an atheist agnostic or whatever you want to call us irreligious people

Yours in Christ
Allah willing
Shalom

;)

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#261 Apr 29, 2013
Lol! I saw that because you responded to it.

Ya it made no sense whatsoever and clearly we see the low Iq on that turd.

Time to flush eh bud?
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>Mentally ill theist troll with no proof of god babbling on about atheists he doesn't understand.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#262 Apr 29, 2013
The OT is just as silly. Moses is an amalgamation of various kings and folk legends of the day.
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>It's important to separate the new testament from the old, the new is a book of myth, lies and delusion. The old is historically and theologically accurate. the NT didn't fulfill anything in the OT.

“ IT'S A CHOICE !!!”

Since: Jun 12

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#263 Apr 29, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>It's important to separate the new testament from the old, the new is a book of myth, lies and delusion. The old is historically and theologically accurate. the NT didn't fulfill anything in the OT.
Mr Troll, I hear yo mamma' callin' you fo suppa':)

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