Is the bible a fairy tale?

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#203 Apr 28, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
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I'm currently listening to the radio. Tell me what the song will be. If you can't you are just as batshit crazy as all the other loons who have come on here saying they, and only they, have a hotline to their particular deity. And if it's the god of the buybull, it should be insulted by your lunacy.
If that was important for your soul, then God might lead me to you... Knowing a song you are listening to for self gain, is fortune-telling, which is of the evil one...:)

I have to run, I will log on tonight...

have a nice day!!!

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#204 Apr 28, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text> It's called in the bible VWD Day and it stands for Vengeance, Wrath, and Destruction. The first Day of the Lord.
But he loves you so much he's going to impose these horrible things on His Own Creation.

What happened? Did he mess up again?

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#205 Apr 28, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
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Why do they always assume we have never read their book of fairy tales? After all, it's a major factor in the rise of non-belief.
No it's called; Sin = Twist and change God's original Bible word = Confusion = Non-belief...:)

Have a nice day...

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Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#206 Apr 28, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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...and your point is for all the questions?
I can answer them, but you need to do your own home-wwork!
Let us discuss them one at a time... Remembering I do have a life outside of this make-believe world in here...
My point is simple.

You posted:-
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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No. you are the one who is infecting other's with your lies! The Bible has 'historical' facts and you know it. Just because you don't want to take the time to read the Bible, and ask for his God's 'Wisdom and Insight' is your problem...
God gives special 'Insight and Wisdom' to those who diligently seek him. THAT WOULD BE ME!
*SINCE I DO BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE. THESE WORDS I STAND BY!!!
LUKE 21:15
For I will give you 'Words and Wisdom' that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict.
*THAT WOULD BE YOU... GOD WILL ALLOW YOU TO BECOME SO TONGUE TIED YOU WONT BE ABLE TO SPEAK. DON'T BELIEVE ME, JUST WAIT AND SEE...GODS WORDS FOREVER RING TRUE...
Your near future looks very bleak my friend. Remember my words when your walls come crashing down on you.
No one crosses my path by accident. You are only going to get so many warnings from God's messengers, until he shuts that door, and blots out your name in 'The Book of Life'... You are accountable for every word you speak!
There is a 'Very Powerful Spiritual Movement' going on right now as we speak... That you know nothing of, or about... So you just stay with your delusion, and lies... see where that get you...
Your life and world as you know it can come crashing down overnight... Go ahead and laugh, call me names... It just makes me 'stronger' through God's word to continue... Sleep well tonight...:)
Your "Historical" document has more holes in it than a piece of Swiss Cheese.

Any normal person would be embarrassed to base their entire life on something with some many errors
Imhotep

United States

#207 Apr 28, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
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Why do they always assume we have never read their book of fairy tales? After all, it's a major factor in the rise of non-belief.
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.

Imagine the people who believe such things and who are not ashamed to ignore, totally, all the patient findings of thinking minds through all the centuries since the Bible was written.

And it is these ignorant people, the most uneducated, the most unimaginative, the most unthinking among us, who would make themselves the guides and leaders of us all;

who would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us; who would invade our schools and libraries and homes. I personally resent it bitterly."
Isaac Asimov

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#208 Apr 28, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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No it's called; Sin = Twist and change God's original Bible word = Confusion = Non-belief...:)
Have a nice day...
There is no sin. It's the lie that your religion is built on.

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#209 Apr 28, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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You misunderstand.
I mean, isn't it a remarkable coincidence that you are a Christian and you were born into a Christian family. You could just as easily have been a Hindu born into a Christian family and as a child when you parents were trying to take you to church, you would have been "This makes no sense! Where is the Elephant Headed God?"
I just find it remarkably lucky that all the Hindu children just happen to be born in Hindu households and all the Christians children just happen to be born in Christian households.
Why weren't more Christians born before Jesus? Why weren't more Christians born in North America before Columbus got here?
Can you think of any reason why so few young children are different religions than their parents?
Excellent Point!

If the god of the buybull was real, and the only god, and was omnipotent/omniscient/etc, and demanded worship from all of his creation, there would be no competition from other deities. And some of these other deities pre-date jeebus.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#210 Apr 28, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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My Lord, you are so off. I do not show hate to anyone. If you attack my God, then I will set you straight. That is called 'Love'
No, sister-- that's exactly the hate I'm speaking of!

You actually have the MASSIVE EGO to assume that YOUR GOD CANNOT DEFEND ITSELF!

But must rely, solely, on ... YOU.

Wow!

Your ego is huge!

LMAO!

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Since: Dec 06

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#211 Apr 28, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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Okay, you as well. If you would ever like to talk to me... I am free to PM's. You have been on my prayer list since yesterday...
Oh goody! You're actually wasting your time on little old me!

And you think that casting a magic spell will actually usurp my free will, and convince me your magic terrorist-god isn't a terrorist after all...!

<laughing out loud--literally>

You are most amusing.

But your seething hate for me is evident with every judgmental post you write.

Which is kinda sad...

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#212 Apr 28, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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Okay, I stopped at this point... THERE IS EVIL IN THIS WORLD, BECAUSE OF EVIL!!! Why don't you see that! I didn't cause that, nor could I stop free will unless God so chose to place this burden on my heart.
Epicurus said it best, in two parts:

1. If an all-powerful and perfectly good god exists, then evil does not.
2. There is evil in the world.
3. Therefore, an all-powerful and perfectly good god does not exist.

and

Assume:

1. God exists.
2. God is omnipotent, omniscient, and perfectly good.
3. A perfectly good being would want to prevent all evils.
4. An omniscient being knows every way in which evils can come into existence.
5. An omnipotent being, who knows every way in which an evil can come into existence, has the power to prevent that evil from coming into existence.
6. A being who knows every way in which an evil can come into existence, who is able to prevent that evil from coming into existence, and who wants to do so, would prevent the existence of that evil.
7. If there exists an omnipotent, omniscient, and perfectly good being, then no evil exists.
8. Evil exists (logical contradiction).

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#213 Apr 28, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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Okay, I stopped at this point... THERE IS EVIL IN THIS WORLD, BECAUSE OF EVIL!!!
Oh, and before you try to weasel out of this claiming "free will"?

That is bogus too.

Proof? There are several, but one that hits closest to YOU, would be:

1) do Angels in Heaven have free will?
2) if not, then how could they have rebelled unless god commanded it?
3) if yes, then they KNOW god is real (no faith) yet they still have free will.

So free will does not excuse god from preventing evil in the world.

Just the opposite, in fact...

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#214 Apr 28, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
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Why do they always assume we have never read their book of fairy tales? After all, it's a major factor in the rise of non-belief.
Indeed it is-- it was a factor for me, for certain.

That, and the realization that no prayer--ever-- was actively answered by any agency.

If prayers are never answered? Then the bible cannot be true (it says the opposite).

If the bible is not true? Then nothing based on it is true-- including the claim of god.

If you eliminate those?

What is left, is atheism-- unless you replace the above with another fantasy-delusion instead.

I have not replaced my former-faith in the bible.

By default, that made me an atheist...

:)

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#215 Apr 28, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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If that was important for your soul, then God might lead me to you... Knowing a song you are listening to for self gain, is fortune-telling, which is of the evil one...:)
I have to run, I will log on tonight...
have a nice day!!!
Wow... your EGO is ... HUGE. Seriously.

Huge.

I'm actually amazed you can function, with an ego that large...

... seriously.

You presume that YOUR GOD actually DEPENDS EXCLUSIVELY on ...

... you!

Wow... just .. wow...

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#216 Apr 28, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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If that was important for your soul,
What is this ..... "soul" thingy?

Do you have definitive proof of this ... "soul"?

Have you ever seen or felt or measured this... "soul"?

No?

Hmmmm.....
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#217 Apr 28, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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So.
Your satan is 100% stronger than your weak GOD?
Because your GOD IS UNCONVINCING!
That's rather a problem for you, isn't it?
The Lord will plead with all flesh. "Come and let us reason together" The God of Israel is Almighty and I'm not talking about Jesus. God will try and execute Satan. Isaiah 27:1. she will be victim, witness, prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner. There will also be other witnesses and I'm wondering who will want to defend him?

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#218 Apr 28, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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No it's called; Sin = Twist and change God's original Bible word = Confusion = Non-belief...:)
Have a nice day...
Self Inflicted Nonsense.

You don't get it?

Try it this way:

Self-
Inflicted
Nonsense

That's what your ... ahem ... "sin" is-- it's not real.

No more real than a ... soul.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#219 Apr 28, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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No it's called; Sin = Twist and change God's original Bible word = Confusion = Non-belief...:)
Have a nice day...
Question:

Why does your monster-god DEMAND something be MURDERED, before he has the stones to FORGIVE?

Hmmm?

I mean-- is your god so HORRID that he simply HAS to see something DEAD before he can muster up some forgiveness?

Sheesh, what a WIMP!

I can forgive WITHOUT needing something dead....

... that means I am SUPERIOR to your god!

Wow...!

I had no idea I was that powerful...!

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#220 Apr 28, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.
Imagine the people who believe such things and who are not ashamed to ignore, totally, all the patient findings of thinking minds through all the centuries since the Bible was written.
And it is these ignorant people, the most uneducated, the most unimaginative, the most unthinking among us, who would make themselves the guides and leaders of us all;
who would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us; who would invade our schools and libraries and homes. I personally resent it bitterly."
Isaac Asimov
Massive ego.

That's what these people have: a massively giant ego.

Notice how they each presume that ONLY THEY may speak for their god?

That their god is entirely incapable of speaking for itself?

LMAO!

Ain't that convenient for them?

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#221 Apr 28, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The Lord will plead with all flesh. "Come and let us reason together" The God of Israel is Almighty and I'm not talking about Jesus. God will try and execute Satan. Isaiah 27:1. she will be victim, witness, prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner. There will also be other witnesses and I'm wondering who will want to defend him?
So you agree? Your Satan is the more powerful in your pantheon of gods, then?

Okay.

You polytheists are most amusing.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#222 Apr 28, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.
Imagine the people who believe such things and who are not ashamed to ignore, totally, all the patient findings of thinking minds through all the centuries since the Bible was written.
And it is these ignorant people, the most uneducated, the most unimaginative, the most unthinking among us, who would make themselves the guides and leaders of us all;
who would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us; who would invade our schools and libraries and homes. I personally resent it bitterly."
Isaac Asimov
It's important to separate the old testament from the new. The NT is a book of lies, delusion and myth. The OT is a history of God, the world and Israel and it has been and will be proved factual.

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