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How Does A Person Go From Believer To Atheist?

There are 73 comments on the WGBH story from Nov 22, 2013, titled How Does A Person Go From Believer To Atheist?. In it, WGBH reports that:

When two young Mormon missionaries knock on performer Julia Sweeney's door one day, it touches off a quest to completely rethink her own beliefs.

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LCNLin

United States

#48 Nov 26, 2013
Siro wrote:
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I dont insult you, there is no need to...
Because you insult yourself with every post
thinking and skeptic are the same poster
LOL
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#49 Nov 26, 2013
Reason, logic, critical thinking, and courage to ask the tough questions. That's how most discover they are atheist.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#50 Nov 26, 2013
I was sent to a CofE school but I could tell their heart wasn't really in it. The more I thought about the bible story, the more it didn't make sense.
Cujo wrote:
Reason, logic, critical thinking, and courage to ask the tough questions. That's how most discover they are atheist.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#51 Nov 26, 2013
Siro wrote:
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And yet you told me that you had never read a dawkins book because you didnt need to, and yet you are telling others to buy his rubbish.
Just shows what a douche you are along with Bad Boy Bubby.
LCNLin responded to this thread and yet for the past 8 hours you topix atheists have been spewing venom at him.
All thats needed is Jackson Brown playing a theme song for the 'progressive' ideas and 'critical thinking' skills of the topix atheist collective.
May I recommend "Running on empty"
He uses the books and the "famous" writers words, frequently so clearly LCNLin needs the input from atheist on what atheism is, and reading those books just may provide it.

I personally, have no need for it. Remember " We have no questions and need no instructions to live without the mind numbing poison that is theism"? The books are there for those who need them and that says it all.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#52 Nov 26, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
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thinking and skeptic are the same poster
LOL
siro and LCNLin are the same poster LOL!
Amused

Lowell, MA

#53 Nov 26, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>siro and LCNLin are the same poster LOL!
I hope not. Put them in the same room at the same time and the stupid will reach critical mass.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#54 Nov 26, 2013
I've even been accused of being Angelina, a christian lady. I think these religitards judge everyone by their own low standards.
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>siro and LCNLin are the same poster LOL!
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#55 Nov 26, 2013
Cujo wrote:
Reason, logic, critical thinking, and courage to ask the tough questions. That's how most discover they are atheist.
You have asked the wrong person. Isaiah 1:18. "Come now, and let us reason together..." The truth of God makes perfect sense and "the knowledge of the holy is understanding" Proverbs 9:10. When the Messiah comes, the entire OT will be fulfilled and most of the bible, from Job to Malachi is about the Messiah. Jesus fulfilled nothing but they did try. It is good to reject the NT, but not the OT. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#56 Nov 26, 2013
Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark.7:9-13 "Whoever curses father or mother shall die" (Mark 7:10 NAB)
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>You have asked the wrong person. Isaiah 1:18. "Come now, and let us reason together..." The truth of God makes perfect sense and "the knowledge of the holy is understanding" Proverbs 9:10. When the Messiah comes, the entire OT will be fulfilled and most of the bible, from Job to Malachi is about the Messiah. Jesus fulfilled nothing but they did try. It is good to reject the NT, but not the OT. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
Pope Vigilius was right

United States

#57 Nov 27, 2013
swerty wrote:
Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark.7:9-13 "Whoever curses father or mother shall die" (Mark 7:10 NAB)<quoted text>
The historical Jesus was a Jew and did not write the New Testament.

You must be thinking of the Death dealing bloodthirsty Jesus invented by the Romans and patterned after the Mithra figure worshiped by the Roman warriors.
LCNLin

United States

#58 Nov 27, 2013
Pope Vigilius was right wrote:
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The historical Jesus was a Jew and did not write the New Testament.

You must be thinking of the Death dealing bloodthirsty Jesus invented by the Romans and patterned after the Mithra figure worshiped by the Roman warriors.
Part one obvious, unless this is breaking news to You?

Rest is your rant
LOL

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#59 Nov 27, 2013
all copied from the pagans
Pope Vigilius was right wrote:
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The historical Jesus was a Jew and did not write the New Testament.
You must be thinking of the Death dealing bloodthirsty Jesus invented by the Romans and patterned after the Mithra figure worshiped by the Roman warriors.
Pope Vigilius was right

United States

#60 Nov 27, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
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Part one obvious, unless this is breaking news to You?
Rest is your rant
LOL
Both statements are obvious to any reasonably informed person.

But Sir, this is a debate forum. Would you care to provide proof that your religion is not Mithra based like the rest of Patriarchal Hierarchical Christianity?

Or are you just ranting and otherwise generally mouthing off?

thank you for your time.
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#61 Nov 27, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>You have asked the wrong person. Isaiah 1:18. "Come now, and let us reason together..." The truth of God makes perfect sense and "the knowledge of the holy is understanding" Proverbs 9:10. When the Messiah comes, the entire OT will be fulfilled and most of the bible, from Job to Malachi is about the Messiah. Jesus fulfilled nothing but they did try. It is good to reject the NT, but not the OT. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
So you have never asked the tough questions, I see. For instance, "Come now, and let us reason together..." "the truth of God makes perfect sense" is an assurtion, and has nothing to do with reason or logic. The question should be, how can I be sure? Where is the evidence that validtaes this statement to be true? etc.

If no good evidence is provided, then the default position should be, I have no reason to accept that statement to be true. That's logical. To just accept it as true is illogical, and unreasonable.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#62 Nov 27, 2013
Cujo wrote:
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So you have never asked the tough questions, I see. For instance, "Come now, and let us reason together..." "the truth of God makes perfect sense" is an assurtion, and has nothing to do with reason or logic. The question should be, how can I be sure? Where is the evidence that validtaes this statement to be true? etc.
If no good evidence is provided, then the default position should be, I have no reason to accept that statement to be true. That's logical. To just accept it as true is illogical, and unreasonable.
I accept scriptures as true when I see them literally fulfilled. The OT is incredibly accurate and is reliable as a historical document. It has been remarkably well preserved, but it's not perfect. The breaking of scripture is the fulfillment of scripture. The flying roll said, "I broke my heel, they wanted to put it in a cast but I wouldn't let them". I've actually never broken a bone and I bruised my heel. But this means something. Just because something is broken doesn't mean everything in the future is all broken together. Most of the bible has already been fulfilled, the next thing is VWD Day, the first day of the Lord.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#63 Nov 27, 2013
hemroydloyd wrote:
This is just stupid. Just remember if ur athiest u will burn in hell for ETERNITY. There is no saving you once you go to hell.
A poster from Jonestown who took a really big swig of the kool aid. Here's a clue for you to puzzle over: The koran says that everyone who isn't a muslim will burn in hell. This does not cause you to lose any sleep. For exactly the same reason, atheists are completely unimpressed with your Great Big Book of Magic Stories and the threats of believe this or else. You have the superstitious version of a chain letter, threatening doom to anyone breaking the chain by not passing it on.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#64 Nov 27, 2013
Amused wrote:
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I hope not. Put them in the same room at the same time and the stupid will reach critical mass.
Actually if they were capable of thought they would be amazed by the consistent and vast differences, in the two personas that they would claim to be one poster.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#65 Nov 27, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I've even been accused of being Angelina, a christian lady. I think these religitards judge everyone by their own low standards.
<quoted text>
Really they know nothing else, most of them are so many posters.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#66 Nov 27, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I accept scriptures as true when I see them literally fulfilled. The OT is incredibly accurate and is reliable as a historical document.
What do you base this on? Most historians reject the OT narratives overall (though they have some nuggets of history). Genesis and Exodus, for example, are fictions. The stories of the Israelites are also largely exaggerated.
LCNLin

United States

#67 Nov 27, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I accept scriptures as true when I see them literally fulfilled. The OT is incredibly accurate and is reliable as a historical document. It has been remarkably well preserved, but it's not perfect. The breaking of scripture is the fulfillment of scripture. The flying roll said, "I broke my heel, they wanted to put it in a cast but I wouldn't let them". I've actually never broken a bone and I bruised my heel. But this means something. Just because something is broken doesn't mean everything in the future is all broken together. Most of the bible has already been fulfilled, the next thing is VWD Day, the first day of the Lord.
Do you speak a second language?

Modern languages lose meaning when translated?

The OT has been translated ...thus losing some meaning"

"The OT is incredibly accurate and is reliable as a historical document." --- I would think more about this?

Peace

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