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Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#85 Jan 25, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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I wish. I've met some real geniuses and I am nowhere close to that category.
Albert Einstein has been quoted as saying that genius equals inspiration plus perspiration, which implies that genius is to be gauged by accomplishment more than assessments of aptitude. I agree. By that standard, many who are clearly not geniuses still qualify for MENSA membership. But I don't think that one has to be engaged in cutting-edge research to make the cut, either.

Ironically, being an actual genius doesn't keep those with lesser accomplishments from calling one an idiot. In this forum alone, I seen Carl Sagan, Isaac Asimov, Stephen Hawking, Thomas Jefferson, and even Albert Einstein called idiots. Measured according to accomplishments, all of these are greater geniuses than Christopher Langan, touted as "the smartest man in America."

Moreover, some accomplishments are more valued by society than others, so even the greatest of geniuses may not arise from obscurity--even the greatest composers of rock music are rarely recognized as such. And there may be too many high-order geniuses in the world to fit into the small domain of celebrity status. Probably the least reliable means of assessing comparative intelligence is by self-assessment. I suspect that we've all felt like geniuses at one time or another. Oddly enough, the few who boldly claim to be geniuses in this forum often do so while making apparently idiotic claims.

Are any of the better contributors to this forum geniuses? We really have no way of knowing. But I hope so.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#86 Jan 25, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
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Yes, he's just spamming for his favorite website, because his posts and comments have nothing to do with his repeated link to the same old church website. I'm surprised he's not soliciting for donations.
He's a jerk, a self-appointed preacher at that church who makes himself know in his little town by attacking the larger local Methodist church and calling them not real Christians in a tawdry bid to grow his own little cult church.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#87 Jan 25, 2013
Interesting. What cult is he a member of? Just a hometown one or a franchise? I'd like to look them up :)
Gillette wrote:
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He's a jerk, a self-appointed preacher at that church who makes himself know in his little town by attacking the larger local Methodist church and calling them not real Christians in a tawdry bid to grow his own little cult church.

“Tis the Season for Reason!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#88 Jan 25, 2013
Gillette wrote:
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He's a jerk, a self-appointed preacher at that church who makes himself know in his little town by attacking the larger local Methodist church and calling them not real Christians in a tawdry bid to grow his own little cult church.
What a joke! There's one cult of superstitious nuts calling out the nuts from other unsubstantiated myths. It's like "Second Verse Same As The First". Then the citizens there end up with just another cult of superstition sponging off the real taxpayers.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#89 Jan 25, 2013
Wait never mind I found the cult. Hmmm

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#90 Jan 25, 2013
He belong to the church of Christ cult that believes they are the true church of Christ because that's what their name is! Lmfao!
MrDesoto1 wrote:
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What a joke! There's one cult of superstitious nuts calling out the nuts from other unsubstantiated myths. It's like "Second Verse Same As The First". Then the citizens there end up with just another cult of superstition sponging off the real taxpayers.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#91 Jan 25, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
Fools will be fools.
Psalm 14:1
www.roysecitycoc.org
"...whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."

Matthew 5:22

Watch out - you're going to burn.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#92 Jan 25, 2013
no fool wrote:
God Bless America
Fort Worth?

Isn't that the number one blackspot for religious whackjobs in America?

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#93 Jan 25, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
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"About 15 billion years ago a tremendous EXPLOSION started the expansion of the universe. This EXPLOSION is known as the Big Bang. At the point of this event all of the matter and energy of space was contained at one point. What exisisted prior to this event is completely unknown and is a matter of pure speculation. This occurance was not a conventional explosion but rather an event filling all of space with all of the particles of the embryonic universe rushing away from each other. The Big Bang actually consisted of an EXPLOSION of space within itself unlike an EXPLOSION of a bomb were fragments are thrown outward. The galaxies were not all clumped together, but rather the Big Bang lay the foundations for the universe."
I highlighted EXPLOSION.
Here's the link.
http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/bigbang.htm
From your link....

"This occurance was not a conventional explosion"

In other words, it's not what you would normally class as an explosion.
open eyes

Aubrey, TX

#94 Jan 25, 2013
@ khatru

what ever happened to judge ye not less ye be judged

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#95 Jan 25, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
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Last I checked there was freedom of speech.
No?
Yeah, I'm sure you'll agree that freedom of speech is a good thing.

In that respect, it appears we humans are more enlightened than your god.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#96 Jan 25, 2013
open eyes wrote:
@ khatru
what ever happened to judge ye not less ye be judged
Well, since it's from a book of myths it's easy to see why no christian ever follows that.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#97 Jan 25, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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I wish. I've met some real geniuses and I am nowhere close to that category.
I miss Richard Feynman.

I always remember watching an episode of Horizon on BBC and the whole show was an interview with the great man.

Wonderful television.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#98 Jan 25, 2013
open eyes wrote:
@ khatru
what ever happened to judge ye not less ye be judged
Going by the majority of Christians I encounter on Topix - it's probably lying dead in the gutter alongside "love thy neighbour".

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#99 Jan 25, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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I wish. I've met some real geniuses and I am nowhere close to that category.
You have a gift for explaining things in a way that is quite clear and easy to understand... well, for anyone without a series of religious filters plugging up their knowledge receiver. You may not be a "genius", but not many people have the ability to express themselves as clearly. It's always a pleasure to read your posts.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#100 Jan 25, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>You have a gift for explaining things in a way that is quite clear and easy to understand... well, for anyone without a series of religious filters plugging up their knowledge receiver. You may not be a "genius", but not many people have the ability to express themselves as clearly. It's always a pleasure to read your posts.
Thank you very much for your kind words.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#101 Jan 25, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
I wish. I've met some real geniuses and I am nowhere close to that category.
Well, I've been told I'm a bit above average by people who's profession it is to know these things.

And I'd say you're abilities exceed mine by rather a bit.

Of course, this is a limited venue to express these things... but.

I'd say you qualify as "genius".

And of course, there are always people who are "more genius" than others -- but does it matter how far above the mean an individual really is?

:)

In the end, so long as you are above average?:LMAO:

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#102 Jan 25, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
When a biology textbook mentions the 'first modern humans', there is a recognition that this is a fuzzy concept and and that attempting to place that first to a specific generation is wrong-headed.
By the way, your pennies analogy was pure genius.

Did you invent that yourself? Or is it something you read somewhere.

I plan to re-use it in the future, and I'd love to give credit where it's due.

:D

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#103 Jan 25, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>Albert Einstein has been quoted as saying that genius equals inspiration plus perspiration, which implies that genius is to be gauged by accomplishment more than assessments of aptitude. I agree. By that standard, many who are clearly not geniuses still qualify for MENSA membership. But I don't think that one has to be engaged in cutting-edge research to make the cut, either.

Ironically, being an actual genius doesn't keep those with lesser accomplishments from calling one an idiot. In this forum alone, I seen Carl Sagan, Isaac Asimov, Stephen Hawking, Thomas Jefferson, and even Albert Einstein called idiots. Measured according to accomplishments, all of these are greater geniuses than Christopher Langan, touted as "the smartest man in America."

Moreover, some accomplishments are more valued by society than others, so even the greatest of geniuses may not arise from obscurity--even the greatest composers of rock music are rarely recognized as such. And there may be too many high-order geniuses in the world to fit into the small domain of celebrity status. Probably the least reliable means of assessing comparative intelligence is by self-assessment. I suspect that we've all felt like geniuses at one time or another. Oddly enough, the few who boldly claim to be geniuses in this forum often do so while making apparently idiotic claims.

Are any of the better contributors to this forum geniuses? We really have no way of knowing. But I hope so.
Excellent analysis and observation, Night.

I'd say it was "genius" but...

...:D

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#104 Jan 25, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Going by the majority of Christians I encounter on Topix - it's probably lying dead in the gutter alongside "love thy neighbour".
Indeed.

If one's motto can be derived from one's behaviors?

Then the motto of Genuine Christians™ could be "Who Would Jesus Hate".

If you factor in the number of gun nuts?

It could be "Who Would Jesus Shoot"

... meh.

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