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Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#42 Jan 22, 2013
You're not a high school graduate are you?
HEATH - 72 wrote:
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Then you're not a modern human?
Hhmmmm

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#43 Jan 22, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
<quoted text>You're not a high school graduate are you?
Me not smart

:(

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Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#44 Jan 22, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
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Then you're not a modern human?
Hhmmmm
Yes, all of are today. Are you simply not understanding what I am saying?

Let's do an analogy. A single penny is not a lot of money. But a hundred trillion pennies *is* a lot of money. Now, start at one penny and add pennies one by one. Which penny takes the total from 'not a lot of money' to 'a lot of money'?

the answer, of course, is that no single penny does this. The concept of 'a lot of money' is a fuzzy one with no clear boundary. In the same way, the concept of 'modern human' is a fuzzy one with no clear boundary. This is true even though everyone today is clearly a modern human just like a hundred trillion pennies is clearly a lot of money.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#45 Jan 22, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
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It said explosion. ;)
Yes, retard, but then there is a WHOLE PARAGRAPH about how it wasn't an "explosion" in the conventional "hilbilly shootin' off fahrworks" sense.

Did you not read that?
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#46 Jan 22, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
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I guess believing that an epic explosion created created order and complexity is brilliant.
Because explosions creating order and complexity happens all the time.
;)
The order and complexity came along LONG, LONG after the initial expansion (what you call an explosion").
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#47 Jan 22, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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How does that eliminate one being first?
Because the blending of one proto-human species into another over the last 200,000 years has no clear distinct boundaries between the various species. It can only be seen after the fact.

By analogy, look at a rainbow and try to discern exactly the point where the red blends into the orange, etc. You can't.

Here is our human ancestry as we currently know it (with more detail being discovered with each passing year):

Ardipithecus ramidus
Australopithecus anamensis
Australopithecus afarensis
Australopithecus africanus
Australopithecus garhi
Paranthropus aethiopicus
Paranthropus boisei
Paranthropus robustus
Homo habilis
Homo rudolfensis
Homo ergaster
Homo erectus
Homo heidelbergensis
Homo neanderthalensis
Homo sapiens

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#48 Jan 22, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
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Hi mate long time no see. How's it going?
:)

Going quite well. I'm just dropping in for the occasional "hi" now and again.

Deleting the majority of my Topix threads' tracking too.

I trust things are well with you and yours?

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#49 Jan 22, 2013
Gillette wrote:
<quoted text>Because the blending of one proto-human species into another over the last 200,000 years has no clear distinct boundaries between the various species. It can only be seen after the fact.

By analogy, look at a rainbow and try to discern exactly the point where the red blends into the orange, etc. You can't.

Here is our human ancestry as we currently know it (with more detail being discovered with each passing year):

Ardipithecus ramidus
Australopithecus anamensis
Australopithecus afarensis
Australopithecus africanus
Australopithecus garhi
Paranthropus aethiopicus
Paranthropus boisei
Paranthropus robustus
Homo habilis
Homo rudolfensis
Homo ergaster
Homo erectus
Homo heidelbergensis
Homo neanderthalensis
Homo sapiens
Homo sapiens came into being by birth?

Or did a nonhuman transform into the first homo sapien?

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Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#50 Jan 22, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
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Homo sapiens came into being by birth?
*sigh*

Genetic information, such as which species you are a member of, is inherited from your parents, except for the 100 or so mutations each of us has. Changes that happen during your lifetime don't get passed on to your children.

This is *very* basic information.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#51 Jan 22, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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*sigh*
Genetic information, such as which species you are a member of, is inherited from your parents, except for the 100 or so mutations each of us has. Changes that happen during your lifetime don't get passed on to your children.
This is *very* basic information.
But, it IS information-- which is why it is utterly foreign to his mode of thinking.

:)

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#52 Jan 22, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>*sigh*

Genetic information, such as which species you are a member of, is inherited from your parents, except for the 100 or so mutations each of us has. Changes that happen during your lifetime don't get passed on to your children.

This is *very* basic information.
Hmmmm

So you can't tell me how the very first human, like you, came into being?

He was either born or transformed, right?

Or is their a third option?

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Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#53 Jan 22, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
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Hmmmm
So you can't tell me how the very first human, like you, came into being?
He was either born or transformed, right?
Or is their a third option?
www.roysecitycoc.org
What would the third option be?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#54 Jan 22, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
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Hmmmm
So you can't tell me how the very first human, like you, came into being?
He was either born or transformed, right?
Nope-- you are wrong on both accounts.

Nice try, though.

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#55 Jan 22, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Nope-- you are wrong on both accounts.

Nice try, though.
Then what's the answer?

Or do you just have....faith?

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Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#56 Jan 22, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmmmm
So you can't tell me how the very first human, like you, came into being?
He was either born or transformed, right?
Or is their a third option?
www.roysecitycoc.org
Once again, there was not a 'first modern human' because the concept of 'modern human' is fuzzy-it has no hard boundaries. or are you not listening to what I said?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#57 Jan 22, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmmmm
So you can't tell me how the very first human, like you, came into being?
Well,*I* came into being because my mother and father had sex. Given the existence of artificial fertilization, not everyone has the same method of coming into existence.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#58 Jan 22, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
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Then what's the answer?
Or do you just have....faith?
I have no faith--not how YOU mean it.

There was no "first human" as YOU mean the phrase.

Until (and if ever) you have a glimmering of comprehension of what evolution means?

You will never begin to understand why.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#59 Jan 22, 2013
Which is why I have stopped arguing science with the Christholes. Simply put they lack the resources to comprehend. No mater what you provide they just go back to.... God just have had a part in it. If we don't know something yet just say a supernatural unseen god magicked it. See as I have said before when we do this we are allowing them to frame the debate. They don't want to debate the probability of their god being real or not so instead they want to change the debate into say Darwin vs god. But they have no interest in learning, they have googled up apologetic websites and how to debate an atheist sites and they steal their nonsense questions from there.

My opinion is we stop letting them frame the debate to their liking because as you said it's the same question and answer again and again from the same posters.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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I have no faith--not how YOU mean it.
There was no "first human" as YOU mean the phrase.
Until (and if ever) you have a glimmering of comprehension of what evolution means?
You will never begin to understand why.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#60 Jan 23, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Which is why I have stopped arguing science with the Christholes. Simply put they lack the resources to comprehend. No mater what you provide they just go back to.... God just have had a part in it. If we don't know something yet just say a supernatural unseen god magicked it. See as I have said before when we do this we are allowing them to frame the debate. They don't want to debate the probability of their god being real or not so instead they want to change the debate into say Darwin vs god. But they have no interest in learning, they have googled up apologetic websites and how to debate an atheist sites and they steal their nonsense questions from there.
My opinion is we stop letting them frame the debate to their liking because as you said it's the same question and answer again and again from the same posters.
<quoted text>
You are, of course, 100% spot-on in your analysis: they have zero desire to learn anything at all.

It's a shame-- learning is one of the signs of sentient life after all, heck even earthworms have limited learning ability.

But these people--these goddist-robots--have given up that ability, in exchange for dubious and empty promises of... what? An afterlife that reads like the worst and dullest funeral party you've ever been forced to attend?

They are indeed brain damaged. Or brain washed or indoctrinated. Each of these phrases fit them all too well.

It is sad to see nonetheless.

But hope spring eternal-- some of these people get sufficient real-life reality thrust into their faces which they cannot ignore.

And the conversations they had on here? May well be the seeds they need to break out of the self-delusional state of being a godbot.

So we fight the good fight with knowledge, facts and ... actual reality itself.:D

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#61 Jan 23, 2013
I have pondered why they keep coming back for more reality abuse.:)
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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You are, of course, 100% spot-on in your analysis: they have zero desire to learn anything at all.
It's a shame-- learning is one of the signs of sentient life after all, heck even earthworms have limited learning ability.
But these people--these goddist-robots--have given up that ability, in exchange for dubious and empty promises of... what? An afterlife that reads like the worst and dullest funeral party you've ever been forced to attend?
They are indeed brain damaged. Or brain washed or indoctrinated. Each of these phrases fit them all too well.
It is sad to see nonetheless.
But hope spring eternal-- some of these people get sufficient real-life reality thrust into their faces which they cannot ignore.
And the conversations they had on here? May well be the seeds they need to break out of the self-delusional state of being a godbot.
So we fight the good fight with knowledge, facts and ... actual reality itself.:D

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