Atheism Rising

[no fool]

Psalms14.1

[no fool]

God Bless America

[Bob of Quantum-Faith]

no fool wrote:

God Bless America

So, you support the President then?

[Richardfs]

Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:

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So, you support the President then?

Hi mate long time no see. How's it going?

[HEATH - 72]

Givemeliberty wrote:

<quoted text>Yes and believing in a god that is demonstrated to merely be a figment of the imagination is being a fool.

I guess believing that an epic explosion created created order and complexity is brilliant.

Because explosions creating order and complexity happens all the time.

;)

[HEATH - 72]

Givemeliberty wrote:

<quoted text>Yes and believing in a god that is demonstrated to merely be a figment of the imagination is being a fool.

How did the first modern human come about?

Through birth or transformation?

[polymath257]

HEATH - 72 wrote:

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I guess believing that an epic explosion created created order and complexity is brilliant.
Because explosions creating order and complexity happens all the time.
;)

Since you clearly don't understand the *first* thing about what the scientific theory (the Big Bang) says, why do you show your ignorance publicly?

The Big Bang was NOT AN EXPLOSION. In an explosion, material moves through space away from a center. In the Big Bang, is was space itself that expands and carries the matter and energy along with it. The dynamics are very different.

When you know what a 'line element' is and can explain it in simple terms,*then* you get to start having an opinion about whether the Big Bang makes sense. At this point, you are simply showing you are listening to the fools trying to control you.

[polymath257]

HEATH - 72 wrote:

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How did the first modern human come about?
Through birth or transformation?

There was no 'first' modern human. The line is fuzzy and we crossed over in the course of many generations.

[Givemeliberty]

What does that have to do with atheism? Even if we don't have all the natural answers only an idiot would leap to supernatural ones that are based on imagination.

HEATH - 72 wrote:

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I guess believing that an epic explosion created created order and complexity is brilliant.
Because explosions creating order and complexity happens all the time.
;)

[Lincoln]

Givemeliberty wrote:

What does that have to do with atheism? Even if we don't have all the natural answers only an idiot would leap to supernatural ones that are based on imagination.
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Life presents people with difficult choices.
Only a few choose strict quantitative analysis

[HEATH - 72]

polymath257 wrote:

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Since you clearly don't understand the *first* thing about what the scientific theory (the Big Bang) says, why do you show your ignorance publicly?
The Big Bang was NOT AN EXPLOSION. In an explosion, material moves through space away from a center. In the Big Bang, is was space itself that expands and carries the matter and energy along with it. The dynamics are very different.
When you know what a 'line element' is and can explain it in simple terms,*then* you get to start having an opinion about whether the Big Bang makes sense. At this point, you are simply showing you are listening to the fools trying to control you.

"About 15 billion years ago a tremendous EXPLOSION started the expansion of the universe. This EXPLOSION is known as the Big Bang. At the point of this event all of the matter and energy of space was contained at one point. What exisisted prior to this event is completely unknown and is a matter of pure speculation. This occurance was not a conventional explosion but rather an event filling all of space with all of the particles of the embryonic universe rushing away from each other. The Big Bang actually consisted of an EXPLOSION of space within itself unlike an EXPLOSION of a bomb were fragments are thrown outward. The galaxies were not all clumped together, but rather the Big Bang lay the foundations for the universe."

I highlighted EXPLOSION.

Here's the link.
http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/bigbang.htm

[HEATH - 72]

polymath257 wrote:

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There was no 'first' modern human. The line is fuzzy and we crossed over in the course of many generations.

"Modern Human"

Here's the link.
http://anthro.palomar.edu/homo2/mod_homo_5.ht...

[HEATH - 72]

polymath257 wrote:

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There was no 'first' modern human. The line is fuzzy and we crossed over in the course of many generations.

"Modern humans"

Here's the link.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/05/nean...

[Buck Crick]

polymath257 wrote:

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There was no 'first' modern human. The line is fuzzy and we crossed over in the course of many generations.

How does that eliminate one being first?

Did multiple numbers cross the line of demarcation in the same nanosecond?

I doubt it.

If there was "no first", then there aren't any humans.

You should think about enrolling in a school.

[Buck Crick]

Givemeliberty wrote:

What does that have to do with atheism? Even if we don't have all the natural answers only an idiot would leap to supernatural ones that are based on imagination.
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Imagination is responsible for more advances than intellect.

Do you get everything ass-backwards?

[Givemeliberty]

Imagination with actual know how and something to work with. Mindless daydreaming with nothing in return but Bullsht isn't an advancement it's at best a fun time waster or in the case of religion cause for the deaths of billions.

Now actual intellect with a healthy dash of imagination that actually provides something of benefit is a wonderful thing.

Sorry dumbfuckbuck but saying you imagine the DI is correct doesn't mean it is.

Now take your blood pressure medicine fatass and tell us how you believe Chris Angel really has magical powers!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!

Buck Crick wrote:

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Imagination is responsible for more advances than intellect.
Do you get everything ass-backwards?

[polymath257]

HEATH - 72 wrote:

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"About 15 billion years ago a tremendous EXPLOSION started the expansion of the universe. This EXPLOSION is known as the Big Bang. At the point of this event all of the matter and energy of space was contained at one point. What exisisted prior to this event is completely unknown and is a matter of pure speculation. This occurance was not a conventional explosion but rather an event filling all of space with all of the particles of the embryonic universe rushing away from each other. The Big Bang actually consisted of an EXPLOSION of space within itself unlike an EXPLOSION of a bomb were fragments are thrown outward. The galaxies were not all clumped together, but rather the Big Bang lay the foundations for the universe."
I highlighted EXPLOSION.
Here's the link.
http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/bigbang.htm

And you realize that they use such language because the only way to give idiots any concept is to use bad analogies? There is a HUGE difference between a conventional explosion, where matter expands outwards from a center and moves through space and what happened at the Big Bang. In particular, your concerns about order (which is technically called entropy) don't hold: the initial state of the Big Bang was a *low* entropy state, in other words, it was 'highly ordered'.

[polymath257]

Buck Crick wrote:

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How does that eliminate one being first?
Did multiple numbers cross the line of demarcation in the same nanosecond?
I doubt it.
If there was "no first", then there aren't any humans.
You should think about enrolling in a school.

The problem is that there wasn't a 'line of demarcation'. That implies an abrupt boundary, which is simply not the case. The transition happened over many generations and yes, it happened with the whole population at the time.

[HEATH - 72]

polymath257 wrote:

<quoted text>And you realize that they use such language because the only way to give idiots any concept is to use bad analogies? There is a HUGE difference between a conventional explosion, where matter expands outwards from a center and moves through space and what happened at the Big Bang. In particular, your concerns about order (which is technically called entropy) don't hold: the initial state of the Big Bang was a *low* entropy state, in other words, it was 'highly ordered'.

It said explosion. ;)

[HEATH - 72]

polymath257 wrote:

<quoted text>The problem is that there wasn't a 'line of demarcation'. That implies an abrupt boundary, which is simply not the case. The transition happened over many generations and yes, it happened with the whole population at the time.

Then you're not a modern human?

Hhmmmm