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Atheism Rising

There are 767 comments on the Houston Press story from Dec 5, 2012, titled Atheism Rising. In it, Houston Press reports that:

It's a warm fall morning near the Texas State Capitol's south steps, and there's a fight brewing.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Houston Press.

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#344 Mar 23, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Well done!

Your post explains something I had figured out long ago, once I learned about the science of semantics.

A dictionary can only reflect the opinions of it's creator(s), and will always lag behind the actual usage of a given language--unless the language in question is no longer in common use.

Thus, a dictionary is not so much an authority, as it is, "here is how many people use the various words".

One of my favorite examples, of words changing their meanings, is the word "cool". When I was a toddler, the word strictly referred to temperature, and nothing but temperature.

At some point during my childhood, a new additional meaning of the word "cool" came into common use-- it meant "trendy" or "acceptable to the crowd" or "something desirable to have and/or be" or even "above average".

But dictionaries published prior to roughly 1960 do not have those additional meanings. However, modern dictionaries do.

How about that?

:D
I see your way of thinking now, if I post something with out documentation it's called BS. But if I post documentation you call the documentation BS and if it's a dictionary Well they just don't keep up with a fast changing language.

So your word not document is more accurate then a quote out of a dictionary.

Go Figure!

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#345 Mar 23, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>Indeed, rigid literalists so often miss the facts that the meanings of words vary with context and change over time. Thus, we see clueless wonders asserting that the only way to determine the meaning of a word is to look at its most ancient roots or that the definition that is listed first takes precedence over the ones that follow. I can't help but wonder how such people manage to navigate through life or even make it through breakfast.
Ya they sure are dumb to use words straight out of the dictionary.

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#346 Mar 23, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>"Us vs. them" is a constant in human society. Go to any internet forum and you will see it in action. Unfortunately, this one is no exception. But it's no word than any of the others, either, and to our adversaries, we are "them."

At the same time, skepticism is an essential part of the intellectual toolbox. Without it, no one would ever question their parents', teachers', and mentors' assumptions, much less their own and would be stuck in a state of "Once in error, always in error." That's a pitiable state, don't you think?
There is a general consensus that:

A person who believes in a specific God is a Theist.

A person who actively denies the existence of God is an Atheist.

A person who feels that we have no method by which we can conclude whether a deity exists is an Agnostic.

“The word cult in current popular usage usually refers to a new religious movement or other group whose beliefs or practices are considered abnormal or bizarre.[1] The word originally denoted a system of ritual practices. The word was first used in the early 17th century denoting homage paid to a divinity and derived from the French culte or Latin cultus,‘worship’, from cult-,‘inhabited, cultivated, worshipped,’ from the verb colere,'care, cultivation'.”~ Wikipedia

“Dogma is the official system of belief or doctrine held by a religion, or a particular group or organization”~ Wikipedia.

Organizations of atheists ritually denounce the existence of God. They have become an organization, dedicated to the activity of removing all relic’s of Theism from public places. Their dogma is based entirely on their notion or belief that God does not exist. These organizations work tirelessly towards this effort.

It is no longer possible for an individual to simply state they are an atheist, by reason of personal belief, and not be affiliated, by membership or indirect alignment with these organizations.

These organizations have an official system of belief and their doctrine is to end the belief of theism on this planet.

They are exclusive, ritualistic, and have a belief system which generates activity within and beyond the boundaries of the organization. They are a Cult.

http://www.ted.com/conversations/13943/is_ath...

From: The Columbus Dispatch:

February 4, 2011

Church, without God

“Stan Bradley likes Bible stories, admires Martin Luther and uses expressions such as 'heavens, no.'

The Lithopolis man is president of a local congregation and rarely misses a Sunday service. Occasionally, he goes to his wife's church instead.

For these and other reasons, Bradley considers himself religious.”

He is also an atheist.

continued:

“Like Bradley, some atheists participate in organized religion for its social and psychological benefits.”

continued:

“Churches are great places to find friends, support and youth education, so nonbelievers and believers alike join congregations to fill those needs, he said.

He has spoken to elderly and sick people who can no longer go to church and they say they most miss the feeling of community.

Recent research from Harvard University and the University of Wisconsin backs him up. It found that religious people tend to be happier than nonreligious people, not because of belief but because of the friendships found at church.”

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/faith...

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Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#347 Mar 23, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, we know you with god delusions enjoy telling everyone else what they believe and what they are asserting, it's the only way you can fool yourselves into thinking that you're somehow better.
There is no other definition in my on line Merriam-Webster APP
athe·ist\ˈā-thē-is t\
noun
: one who believes that there is no deity
athe·is·tic \ˌā-thē-ˈis-tik\ or athe·is·ti·cal \ˌā-thē-ˈis-ti-kÉ ™l\ adjective
athe·is·ti·cal·ly \-ti-k(ə-)lē\ adverb
First use: 1551

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#348 Mar 23, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
I see your way of thinking now, if I post something with out documentation it's called BS.
Exactly! Because BS is not only your best move?

BS is your ONLY move: Who Would Jesus BS?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#349 Mar 23, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
There is a general consensus that:
A person who believes in a specific God is a Theist.
A person who actively denies the existence of God is an Atheist.
Lie.

The majority of atheists simply don't believe in your fantasy-god.

See?

You lie with each post.

By the way?

Can you explain this?

Christianity: The belief that some cosmic Jewish Zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

Makes perfect sense.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#350 Mar 23, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no other definition in my on line Merriam-Webster APP
athe·ist\ˈā-thē-is t\
noun
: one who believes that there is no deity
athe·is·tic \ˌā-thē-ˈis-tik\ or athe·is·ti·cal \ˌā-thē-ˈis-ti-kÉ ™l\ adjective
athe·is·ti·cal·ly \-ti-k(ə-)lē\ adverb
First use: 1551
Gibberish. You really need to learn how to work the intertubes...!

LMAO!

By the way? You still haven't explained this:

Christianity: The belief that some cosmic Jewish Zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

Makes perfect sense.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#351 Mar 23, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
That's the whole thing.
Look it up in Merriam-Webster iPhone App
There are more dictionaries, and more accurate ones, as well as many that show the history of the words. You stick to one source only because it obfuscates the truth. That is lying.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#352 Mar 23, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no other definition in my on line Merriam-Webster APP
athe·ist\ˈā-thē-ist\
noun
: one who believes that there is no deity
athe·is·tic \ˌā-thē-ˈis-tik\ or athe·is·ti·cal \ˌā-thē-ˈis-ti-kəl\ adjective
athe·is·ti·cal·ly \-ti-k(ə-)lē\ adverb
First use: 1551
Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary defines atheism thus:

1 a : disbelief in the existence of a deity; b: the doctrine that there is no deity

2 : UNGODLINESS, WICKEDNESS

It follows that either disbelieve in deities or believe that none exist. Which definition applies depends on context. Nevertheless, the same addition defines "atheist" as one who denies the existence of God. The disparity between the two entries highlights its inherent bias.

The online M-W is an abbreviated version, as is the phone app. The full dictionary is available by subscription only. Again, I suggest that you take the time to learn a bit about lexicography and how dictionaries are compiled and updated. You still seem to be missing the very basic principle that the meanings of words vary with context and change over time. Lexicographers do their best to keep up with the changes inherent in a living language, but no dictionary is perfect.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#353 Mar 24, 2013
Jimmy wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism is not a religion. Why do theists lie and then tell us that they have higher morals?
its depressing.
Because they are so easily forgiven. LOL!
Thinking

Barnsley, UK

#354 Mar 24, 2013
Quote more than one source.
Quoting one source is plagiarism.
Quoting more than one source is research.
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no other definition in my on line Merriam-Webster APP
athe·ist\ˈā-thē-is t\
noun
: one who believes that there is no deity
athe·is·tic \ˌā-thē-ˈis-tik\ or athe·is·ti·cal \ˌā-thē-ˈis-ti-kÉ ™l\ adjective
athe·is·ti·cal·ly \-ti-k(ə-)lē\ adverb
First use: 1551
Siro

Auburn, Australia

#355 Mar 24, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
There are more dictionaries, and more accurate ones, as well as many that show the history of the words. You stick to one source only because it obfuscates the truth. That is lying.
Why dont you look up the meaning of poofter?
You poofter

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#356 Mar 24, 2013
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
Why dont you look up the meaning of poofter?
You poofter
It's probably some prison slang, don't care, it's also just you projecting your fantasies.
Siro

Auburn, Australia

#357 Mar 24, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
It's probably some prison slang, don't care, it's also just you projecting your fantasies.
Fantasies?
Projection?
I certainly have no fantasies about you...(well maybe one where you and all the other maltheists from here are stuck on a desert island and you are all screaming and arguing about who hates God the most).
.
Fantasies about you?!.......Puke!.....No really,.......Puke!
Its not prison slang either.....you poofter

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#358 Mar 24, 2013
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
Fantasies?
Projection?
I certainly have no fantasies about you...(well maybe one where you and all the other maltheists from here are stuck on a desert island and you are all screaming and arguing about who hates God the most).
.
Fantasies about you?!.......Puke!.....No really,.......Puke!
Its not prison slang either.....you poofter
Well no, you can't have fantasies about me because I am unable to fulfill the fantasies you are projecting onto me.
Thinking

Barnsley, UK

#359 Mar 24, 2013
Are you incredibly old? I haven't heard "poof" used so much since I saw a programme on the painfully dated sitcom "It Ain't Half Hot Mum".
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
Fantasies?
Projection?
I certainly have no fantasies about you...(well maybe one where you and all the other maltheists from here are stuck on a desert island and you are all screaming and arguing about who hates God the most).
.
Fantasies about you?!.......Puke!.....No really,.......Puke!
Its not prison slang either.....you poofter
Siro

Auburn, Australia

#360 Mar 24, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Are you incredibly old? I haven't heard "poof" used so much since I saw a programme on the painfully dated sitcom "It Ain't Half Hot Mum".
<quoted text>
Oh well then it seems your friends talk behind your back
Thinking

Barnsley, UK

#361 Mar 24, 2013
No, but strangers spunk all over yours.
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh well then it seems your friends talk behind your back
Siro

Auburn, Australia

#362 Mar 24, 2013
Thinking wrote:
No, but strangers spunk all over yours.
<quoted text>
Lame......so lame........just like your malnourished dogs
Thinking

Barnsley, UK

#363 Mar 24, 2013
My dogs are well fed, whereas you are fed with stranger's spunk.
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
Lame......so lame........just like your malnourished dogs

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