Gays are criminals not equals.

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#704 Jun 30, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
I would certainly hope so-- today.
In the past? I'm not certain a popular vote in favor of slavery would fail...
.... how else do Republicans get re-elected, then?
They have a track record of pretty much "pro slavery", with their continued OBJECTION to raising the minimum wage....!
And if that's not "pro slavery" I don't know a better modern example....
To add, they seem to be in favor of forcing women to have ultra sounds and reducing their options for abortion.

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#705 Jun 30, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
The Founding Fathers recognized this tendency of the majority to sometimes act... ugly.
Which is why they put major brakes on the majority rule: the Supreme Court, never elected, has the final power over majority-ruled lawmaking.
Roe V Wade is another excellent example where the majority of **men**-- religious men-- were against women's rights...
.. we are **still** suffering under this one, even today.
The problem is that many conservative women are working with conservative men to limit women's choices.

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#706 Jun 30, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> But they do, explain that.
Corporations use yellow journalism to control the masses.

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#707 Jun 30, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Again it wasn't the majority's call Bob, It was a select few who made laws in congress and senate. But I agree with the assessment
"there never should have been a need" but the will of the people has always been a hard fight. Even worse is that like I said the illusion is evaporating quickly, and soon freedom will be a myth like the god people believe in.
The majority opposed civil rights for minorities. It took Congress and the president to push for it.

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Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#708 Jun 30, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>The point just sailed right over your head.

But this is the main point,

"just give people the equal rights promised to them"

Yes the constitution provided us all equal rights.
The black man was denied by legal wrangling that defined him 2/3 a human being, a fucking disgrace to this country perpetrated by the politicians.
Okay then, you are agreeing that everyone should have had the right to marry from the beginning, no matter the sexes getting married.
You said it in a weird workaround way though.

“The Edge”

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#709 Jun 30, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay then, you are agreeing that everyone should have had the right to marry from the beginning, no matter the sexes getting married.
You said it in a weird workaround way though.
LOL I actually said nothing about that, except I don't understand
what business the government has in that to begin with.
People should be able to marry who they want, barring animals and inanimate objects and the government has no business in that decision.

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Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#710 Jun 30, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL I actually said nothing about that, except I don't understand
what business the government has in that to begin with.
People should be able to marry who they want, barring animals and inanimate objects and the government has no business in that decision.
Okay, then we ARE on the same page.
I agree with you completely.

My rule: Anything goes as long as it harms no one and nothing, the parties involved are consenting adults, and will not result in negative outcomes.

For example, I believe polygamy should be allowed, as long as it respects the above.
I believe incest is disgusting, I would never do it myself, I do not agree with it at all. But if it respects the above, then I guess I will accept it.
I will never accept pedophilia, for it does harm AND one of the parties are not consenting adults.
I will never accept beastiality, zoophilia, or whatever you wish to call it, for animals cannot give consent. Though if by chance, we find a way to communicate with animals and understand them 100% perfectly, then I guess if it respects my above rule, I will accept it even though I am disgusted by it.

Anything else you'd like to know my opinion on, please feel free to ask!

“The Edge”

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#711 Jun 30, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, then we ARE on the same page.
I agree with you completely.
My rule: Anything goes as long as it harms no one and nothing, the parties involved are consenting adults, and will not result in negative outcomes.
For example, I believe polygamy should be allowed, as long as it respects the above.
I believe incest is disgusting, I would never do it myself, I do not agree with it at all. But if it respects the above, then I guess I will accept it.
I will never accept pedophilia, for it does harm AND one of the parties are not consenting adults.
I will never accept beastiality, zoophilia, or whatever you wish to call it, for animals cannot give consent. Though if by chance, we find a way to communicate with animals and understand them 100% perfectly, then I guess if it respects my above rule, I will accept it even though I am disgusted by it.
Anything else you'd like to know my opinion on, please feel free to ask!
I agree, though some polygamy is forced and that is morally reprehensible, as long as it was freely accepted mutually. I suppose there has to be some laws like these Japanese guys marrying their pillows I can't even come close to understanding. Or there have been some I imagine who wanted to marry a real doll, lol... Or wanting to marry an animal. But we are coming toward a age where we have to ask is it morally acceptable to marry a robot? Like in Helen O'loy ? Soon this will be a viable question.

but these

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Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#712 Jun 30, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>I agree, though some polygamy is forced and that is morally reprehensible, as long as it was freely accepted mutually. I suppose there has to be some laws like these Japanese guys marrying their pillows I can't even come close to understanding. Or there have been some I imagine who wanted to marry a real doll, lol... Or wanting to marry an animal. But we are coming toward a age where we have to ask is it morally acceptable to marry a robot? Like in Helen O'loy ? Soon this will be a viable question.

but these
I'm not sure about inanimate objects...I can't make up my mind on that yet, I'd need someone to tell me their side, one from the opposing side, one from the approving side/practicing people.

Robots call under that category as well.

And actually, I take back my comment on beastiality regarding acceptance if an animal could give consent.
It would have negative effects on the economy, for animals usually have lesser life spans than humans and also would not fit properly with the benefits that come with marriage.
Therefore there would be resources wasted on it.

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Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#713 Jun 30, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not sure about inanimate objects...I can't make up my mind on that yet, I'd need someone to tell me their side, one from the opposing side, one from the approving side/practicing people.
Robots call under that category as well.
And actually, I take back my comment on beastiality regarding acceptance if an animal could give consent.
It would have negative effects on the economy, for animals usually have lesser life spans than humans and also would not fit properly with the benefits that come with marriage.
Therefore there would be resources wasted on it.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondea...
Thinking

York, UK

#714 Jul 1, 2013
On a serious note, what do you think is a sustainable level of debt for the US? I think you're at $17tn today.
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Was joking , but it is true.
Blame UK for everything? Nope but we are pretty close to taking the all time record for screw ups from you...lol

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#716 Jul 1, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> The point just sailed right over your head.
But this is the main point,
"just give people the equal rights promised to them"
Yes the constitution provided us all equal rights.
The black man was denied by legal wrangling that defined him 2/3 a human being, a fucking disgrace to this country perpetrated by the politicians.
Indeed it was effing disgusting. Of course, they used the BuyBull to "justify" their racial bigotry, citing several specific verses.

... ugg.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#717 Jul 1, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>
To add, they seem to be in favor of forcing women to have ultra sounds and reducing their options for abortion.
Disgusting.

I think that all male politicians ought to be forced to have a sonogram of their prostates, before being allowed to vote on **anything** having to do with women...

One of those intrusive ones, with a very long probe...

.... meh.

Maybe **then** they'd begin to get why their actions are so very ugly.

Ya think?

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#718 Jul 1, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem is that many conservative women are working with conservative men to limit women's choices.
Yes. Brainwashing and oppression is deeply ingrained with these poor women.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#719 Jul 1, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, then we ARE on the same page.
I agree with you completely.
My rule: Anything goes as long as it harms no one and nothing, the parties involved are consenting adults, and will not result in negative outcomes.
For example, I believe polygamy should be allowed, as long as it respects the above.
I believe incest is disgusting, I would never do it myself, I do not agree with it at all. But if it respects the above, then I guess I will accept it.
I will never accept pedophilia, for it does harm AND one of the parties are not consenting adults.
I will never accept beastiality, zoophilia, or whatever you wish to call it, for animals cannot give consent. Though if by chance, we find a way to communicate with animals and understand them 100% perfectly, then I guess if it respects my above rule, I will accept it even though I am disgusted by it.
Anything else you'd like to know my opinion on, please feel free to ask!
I agree-- multiple, group marriages? Yep-- so long as everyone is of age, and consenting.

Same thing with limited marriages-- i.e. ones that automatically end after a specific time interval-- why not? Renewal optional. Would save ever so much needless expenses.

In short, anything consenting adults can come up with, with regards to a legal living arrangement ought to be at least considered.

Why not a non-sexual life partner, with all the **legal** benefits typically granted to marriage partners? Could be quite useful for some, who are past wanting an intimate relationship, but would like to have someone to share in the expenses and liabilities.

I think ugly religious bigotry has had it's day, and it's high time to dump the whole shebang, when it comes to dictating rules of marriages.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#720 Jul 1, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> I agree, though some polygamy is forced and that is morally reprehensible, as long as it was freely accepted mutually.
The majority of the forced ones fall under "under age" and would be prohibited as a result.

So would the ugly islamic practice of "thighing" ...(a very disgusting practice-- I do not recommend you dig further-- it involves girl children, which is enough to know... ugg)
Aura Mytha wrote:
I suppose there has to be some laws like these Japanese guys marrying their pillows I can't even come close to understanding. Or there have been some I imagine who wanted to marry a real doll, lol... Or wanting to marry an animal. But we are coming toward a age where we have to ask is it morally acceptable to marry a robot? Like in Helen O'loy ? Soon this will be a viable question.
but these
I really do not have a moral or ethical issue with someone marrying a non-human object, if that's what makes their life have meaning.

Who are we to say? They are certainly not hurting the pillow/doll/robot/etc.

No worse than a rich old person, leaving their fortune to their dog or cat...

:)

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#721 Jul 1, 2013
Thinking wrote:
On a serious note, what do you think is a sustainable level of debt for the US? I think you're at $17tn today.
<quoted text>
If we would eliminate most deductions, and start taxing churches?

We'd have it paid for in short order...

.... but the Super-Mega Corps are not paying their share of tax.

Naturally not: they have purchased the Republican Party, and a significant portion of the Democrats too.
Thinking

York, UK

#722 Jul 1, 2013
You're right about US Corporations. I gave evidence in SFO's tax courts in 2008 on behalf of a US Corp against an IRS claim of $1.7bn.

The IRS settled for less than $200m. The IRS didn't seem very competent to me.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
If we would eliminate most deductions, and start taxing churches?
We'd have it paid for in short order...
.... but the Super-Mega Corps are not paying their share of tax.
Naturally not: they have purchased the Republican Party, and a significant portion of the Democrats too.

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#723 Jul 1, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Disgusting.
I think that all male politicians ought to be forced to have a sonogram of their prostates, before being allowed to vote on **anything** having to do with women...
One of those intrusive ones, with a very long probe...
.... meh.
Maybe **then** they'd begin to get why their actions are so very ugly.
Ya think?
I agree.

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Since: Jan 10

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#724 Jul 1, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree-- multiple, group marriages? Yep-- so long as everyone is of age, and consenting.
Same thing with limited marriages-- i.e. ones that automatically end after a specific time interval-- why not? Renewal optional. Would save ever so much needless expenses.
In short, anything consenting adults can come up with, with regards to a legal living arrangement ought to be at least considered.
Why not a non-sexual life partner, with all the **legal** benefits typically granted to marriage partners? Could be quite useful for some, who are past wanting an intimate relationship, but would like to have someone to share in the expenses and liabilities.
I think ugly religious bigotry has had it's day, and it's high time to dump the whole shebang, when it comes to dictating rules of marriages.
I agree with you again. I see no reason for the government to stick it's nose into the private lives of people. I am all for it as long as people are not being harmed and children not being molested.
I find it strange that conservatives preach against big government and yet they are the first to push government into the private life.

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