Gays are criminals not equals.

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#236 May 8, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
People who abuse Gays are the criminals
Word
Your stupidity vastly outweighs your thoughtless attacks on atheism.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#238 May 8, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>
Dumb xtians think that the buybull bans polygamy. It does not. The only thing the buybull says on polygamy is that a bishop should have one wife and that kings should not multiply wives to themselves. The latter being metaphoric in nature since in that same verse it says that the king should not multiply horses at a time when kings needed multiple horses.
Kings Solomon and David had hundreds of wives and concubines, no word from God against them. The ban on polygamy was an Imperial Roman idea. As much as Christians bashed Roman for their immorality, they took many ideas from them; including Christmas and monogamy.
Yep.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#239 May 8, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
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It is hard to determine what trumps what in the buybull. For example, the buybull has two different creation stories. http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/acco...
The buybull says that we cannot be held responsible for the sins of our ancestors-yet we all inherit original sin from Adam and Eve which we stand to suffer for unless we beg God to forgive us.
The children of Canaan were punished for the sins of their Grandpa, Ham.
The buybull bans child sacrifice, but a general is made to sacrfice his own daughter.
Oh, yes-- the inherited sin thing clearly trumps the scant few places where that is denied.

In fact, according to Bible Law, any family that has a bastard? The descendents suffer for 7 generations or more--in that none "shall enter the kingdom of heaven".

... it's an ugly book.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#240 May 8, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing in the NT condemns polygamy save one verse that said that a bishop should have one wife. Christians took monogamy from the Romans and pretend it is their idea.
Well, yes.

I, personally, have no problem with multiple-partner marriages.

Be they many females, many males, a mix of the two, or homogenous-but-multiple people.

The only restrictions I'd place, would be that nobody gets exploited, nobody is owned (treated as property), and everyone is an adult.

Of course, some folk really want some of what I listed above... I find that difficult to find an acceptable solution that deals with that, but prohibits people from being forced against their will.

I think it's easier to prohibit it, but ignore those who can prove they really want it like that...

... meh.

Humans: too complex for basic, simple rules.

<laughing>

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#241 May 8, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>
Remember that republican congresswoman who when asked about the use of Spanish said; "If English was good enough for Jesus, it is good enough for me?"
https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&q=...
Of course!

These people really are self-created morons.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#242 May 8, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
Yay religion and it's infinite love!
[/heavy sarcasm]
... yeah... meh.

'Tis an ugly cult, is what it 'tis...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#243 May 8, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
Number of wives or husbands is never limited in the bible only in mans laws.
[/QUOTE]

Yep.

So... WHY are you AGAINST marriage equality, then?

After all: in the bible, David has a gay-lover Jonathan, and everyone in the bible is just FINE with that...

... why aren't YOU?

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#244 May 8, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
Number of wives or husbands is never limited in the bible only in mans laws.
[/QUOTE]

Go tell your Christian friends that you think polygamy should be legal. Good luck finding even a handful that agree.

See, I'm not religious, so I can say "anyone should be able to do anything if they are adults, consenting, and not harming anyone."
Though your religion is pretty much just "hate everyone."

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#245 May 8, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
Number of wives or husbands is never limited in the bible only in mans laws.
[/QUOTE]
See here we go , and this is the reason morality is not dished out by the bible. But in fact used to justify any behavior no matter how horrible.
KJV

United States

#246 May 8, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
Number of wives or husbands is never limited in the bible only in mans laws.
"

Yep.

So... WHY are you AGAINST marriage equality, then?

After all: in the bible, David has a gay-lover Jonathan, and everyone in the bible is just FINE with that...

... why aren't YOU?
Wrong but don't bother waking up.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#247 May 8, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
Wrong but don't bother waking up.[/QUOTE]

You did not answer the question:

So... WHY are you AGAINST marriage equality, then?

After all: in the bible, David has a gay-lover Jonathan, and everyone in the bible is just FINE with that...

... why aren't YOU?
NightSerf

Knoxville, TN

#248 May 8, 2013
this is a test

“Sombrero Galaxy”

Since: Jan 10

I'm An Illegal Alien

#249 May 9, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, yes-- the inherited sin thing clearly trumps the scant few places where that is denied.
In fact, according to Bible Law, any family that has a bastard? The descendents suffer for 7 generations or more--in that none "shall enter the kingdom of heaven".
... it's an ugly book.
God loves us all, except if we happen to be born out of wedlock and if we refuse to prostrate ourselves to him.

“Sombrero Galaxy”

Since: Jan 10

I'm An Illegal Alien

#250 May 9, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, yes.
I, personally, have no problem with multiple-partner marriages.
Be they many females, many males, a mix of the two, or homogenous-but-multiple people.
The only restrictions I'd place, would be that nobody gets exploited, nobody is owned (treated as property), and everyone is an adult.
Of course, some folk really want some of what I listed above... I find that difficult to find an acceptable solution that deals with that, but prohibits people from being forced against their will.
I think it's easier to prohibit it, but ignore those who can prove they really want it like that...
... meh.
Humans: too complex for basic, simple rules.
<laughing>
I have no issues with people marrying other people as long as they are consenting adults. The reason we ban adult-children marriages is because children do not have the intellectual capacities as adults and they can be easily manipulated. In addition, their bodies are not yet fully developed. Bans on marriages on gays and polygamists have no reasoning behind them save the determination of religious people to boss other people around.
As for polygamists, they have been embarrassed of late because of the sects that have been discovered in which women were abused. But this has more to do with the fact that they were Christian sects who believe in the submission of women to men.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#251 May 9, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>
God loves us all, except if we happen to be born out of wedlock and if we refuse to prostrate ourselves to him.
So he hates his son, Jesus, too.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#252 May 9, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
So he hates his son, Jesus, too.
Kabonngg!!

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#253 May 9, 2013
So Mary Magdalena is what your 16th screen name KJV/Lincoln?

Pathetic

[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
Wrong but don't bother waking up.[/QUOTE]

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#254 May 9, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Kabonngg!!
*Bows*

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#255 May 9, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>
God loves us all, except if we happen to be born out of wedlock and if we refuse to prostrate ourselves to him.
Then? It's into the BDSM pit forever...

.... wait... WHAT?

That's right 90% of humankind, if the BuyBull is correct, get custom torture forever.

And according to the same book? This is all according to plan...!

So obviously BuyBull-God loves torture more than anything else...!

:D

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#256 May 9, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no issues with people marrying other people as long as they are consenting adults. The reason we ban adult-children marriages is because children do not have the intellectual capacities as adults and they can be easily manipulated. In addition, their bodies are not yet fully developed. Bans on marriages on gays and polygamists have no reasoning behind them save the determination of religious people to boss other people around.

As for polygamists, they have been embarrassed of late because of the sects that have been discovered in which women were abused. But this has more to do with the fact that they were Christian sects who believe in the submission of women to men.
I agree with your whole post, above-- yes, I don't have an issue with multiple-adult partners in a marriage situation.

In fact? Large, extended families have many advantages over single-pair families--

-- not the least of which, the children are exposed to multiple-adult viewpoints, which >>always<< make for superior thinking when the kids become adults.

They quickly learn one of the most important lessons of life: there are almost always more than just two choices, in any given situation...!

:D

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