Time to End Federal Support of Boy Scout Discrimination | Atheists in Foxholes News

Jul 18, 2012 | Posted by: Hedonist | Full story: blog.militaryatheists.org

The Boy Scouts of America holds a Congressional Charter while discriminating against atheists. The BSA ejects openly atheist members and leaders, even those that have reached the highest ranks of the organization. The values, community, and service so fundamental to the BSA would provide an even greater service to the nation if they would promote respect for all beliefs, including atheism.

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Jul 23, 2012
 
good for those sensible freethinkers in the military. next they need to get rid of their paid chaplains.

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Jul 24, 2012
 
The government at any level, federal, state, or local, should not be spending taxpayers' money on the BSA.

I remember seeing old photos of them marching with the KKK in New York.
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Jul 24, 2012
 
How sad. Scouting should be about educating the young, not militarising them. There shouldn't be any connection with the military.

Quote, "Many say their own council does not discriminate, and itís just a national issue."
I have met one atheist scout leader in the UK. I asked if she had considered starting a group of Woodcraft Folk,
http://www.woodcraft.org.uk/...
which are a sort of group started by non-religious people who felt rejected by the Scouts, or didn't like their inseparability from a Bible-studded Sunday school group. The lady-leader said that it is far better to secularise the scouts than segregate our young people - those who have religious parents from those who don't.

Religious or not, we shouldn't pass our differences on our children. Our job is to equip young people to discover what's true and what isn't for themselves.

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Jul 24, 2012
 
EdSed wrote:
How sad. Scouting should be about educating the young, not militarising them. There shouldn't be any connection with the military.
Quote, "Many say their own council does not discriminate, and itís just a national issue."
I have met one atheist scout leader in the UK. I asked if she had considered starting a group of Woodcraft Folk,
http://www.woodcraft.org.uk/...
which are a sort of group started by non-religious people who felt rejected by the Scouts, or didn't like their inseparability from a Bible-studded Sunday school group. The lady-leader said that it is far better to secularise the scouts than segregate our young people - those who have religious parents from those who don't.
Religious or not, we shouldn't pass our differences on our children. Our job is to equip young people to discover what's true and what isn't for themselves.
When I was in the BSA, we were given .22 rifles at summer camp and taught target shooting (It was just after the July 4th holiday and all the targets had Redcoats painted on them :)).
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Jul 24, 2012
 
FaFoxy wrote:
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When I was in the BSA, we were given .22 rifles at summer camp and taught target shooting (It was just after the July 4th holiday and all the targets had Redcoats painted on them :)).
A sort of friendly 'friendly fire'?
(I'm not PC either :-)

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Jul 24, 2012
 
Sherwood Forest Gump wrote:
<quoted text>A sort of friendly 'friendly fire'?
(I'm not PC either :-)
No, it was in the spirit of Independence Day. Instead of yelling "Ready, aim, fire !", the Scoutmaster would yell, "Ready, aim, shoot the limeys !"

:)

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Jul 24, 2012
 
Let Antigay-fil-A support them. They're two peas in a pod.

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Jul 24, 2012
 
MrDesoto1 wrote:
Let Antigay-fil-A support them. They're two peas in a pod.
I agree. Let them be supported by companies.

My church kicked them out years ago specifically because of their anti-gay policies.
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Jul 24, 2012
 
FaFoxy wrote:
The government at any level, federal, state, or local, should not be spending taxpayers' money on the BSA.
I remember seeing old photos of them marching with the KKK in New York.
interesting, and I like your fox.
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Jul 24, 2012
 
FaFoxy wrote:
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I agree. Let them be supported by companies.
My church kicked them out years ago specifically because of their anti-gay policies.
are you really in Arizona. please tell us about the Senate candidates there. how libertarian is Flake? who else is a serious contender? when is your primary? does a democrat have a chance to win? will all the rightwing types come out to vote for that sheriff person, the birther anti-immigrant guy? glad he is not running for Senate at least. neanderthal times!

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Jul 24, 2012
 
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> interesting, and I like your fox.
I'd like to have a fox but I have 4 cats instead !

:)

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Jul 24, 2012
 
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> are you really in Arizona. please tell us about the Senate candidates there. how libertarian is Flake? who else is a serious contender? when is your primary? does a democrat have a chance to win? will all the rightwing types come out to vote for that sheriff person, the birther anti-immigrant guy? glad he is not running for Senate at least. neanderthal times!
I just moved to Oro Valley in Pima County, Arizona from New York a few months ago, so I'm not up to speed yet on local politics.

But my congressional district is the district which Gabrielle Giffords represented. In fact, I'm just a few blocks up the street from where the shooting took place in Casas Adobes (my bank is located in the shopping center where the shooting took place).

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Jul 24, 2012
 
And btw, regarding the shootings, nearly all news outlets of every kind have reported since the day of the shootings that the shootings took place in Tucson.

This is NOT TRUE.

The shootings took place in Casas Adobes, which is an unincorporated area just north of the City Of Tucson, and just south of the Town Of Oro Valley.
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FaFoxy wrote:
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I'd like to have a fox but I have 4 cats instead !
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hope they live inside or close to home. it is more dangerous for them outside - unfortunately sometimes the danger is from foxes. too bad animals are predators and prey - including man.
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FaFoxy wrote:
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I just moved to Oro Valley in Pima County, Arizona from New York a few months ago, so I'm not up to speed yet on local politics.
But my congressional district is the district which Gabrielle Giffords represented. In fact, I'm just a few blocks up the street from where the shooting took place in Casas Adobes (my bank is located in the shopping center where the shooting took place).
I tell folks that my favorite republican is a Flake, and then explain. he is very conservative, but not a hater - and tries to be impartial on many matters of principle, and not partisan regarding many of his criticisms - of earmarks, for example. and he is cheerful. not grim and nasty. beware of the sheriff! scary extremist.

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Jul 24, 2012
 
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> hope they live inside or close to home. it is more dangerous for them outside - unfortunately sometimes the danger is from foxes. too bad animals are predators and prey - including man.
All my cats are rescues from the streets. Since moving here to Arizona, they have never been outside because it's to dangerous. Even though I live in a suburban\urban area (Oro Valley-Casas Adobes-Tucson), there is a lot of dangerous wildlife around here including javelina.

My oldest cat now, Calley, a male, I adopted from a nice lady in College Point, Queens (NY) in May, 2000 when he was about 5 months old. He was missing the lower half of his left hind leg at that time. I had the remainder removed in 2007.

Samantha, my only female I adopted at the age of about a year old in 2002. I also adopted her daughter, Sandra, who was born with a lot of birth defects, and unfortunately she died suddenly a few months later.:(

The last 2 cats I adopted in late 2010, from upstate New York. Jaime is a small male with a beautiful red mackeral tabby coat who was only a few weeks old when I took him in. His mother was a 3-footed feral cat that had kittens.

A few weeks later, I took in a BIG long-haired male cat I named Grayson. He's the only long-haired cat I have ever had.

Allthough I lived in a small city upstate New York, there was a LOT of wildlife around me, including, but not limited to, feral cats, foxes, skunks, wolves, and other wonderful creatures.

I particularly liked watching the foxes. They are VERY TIMID creatures ! In late 2009, they would stroll down the street at dusk, and stop at various houses looking for food, and\or a handout. After feeding my cats, I would put catfood out on my front wooden deck for the feral cats. I was very surprised that the foxes would eat it. But if they saw me, or anyone, watching them eat, they would dash off.

So I bought a webcam on ebay for one cent, set it up in one of my front windows, and would watch the foxes eat. They were adorable !

But if the foxes even SAW just a kitten, they would run off in fright ! I saw a fox come around the car in my driveway one evening, and he was surprised by a tiny kitten. The kitten, probablly no more than 5 weeks old, raised it's back and hissed at teh fox, ans he ran off as fast as he could. LOL

Take care of God's animals ! DON'T eat them !

The foxes visiting me was kinda the inspiriation for my name here.
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Jul 24, 2012
 
what a charming story and description, and set of nice attitudes. really cute story about the fox and kitten! I would not have guessed it! so glad to become acquainted with you. I feed 3 stray cats, and two kittens, in town. They refuse to live inside, and I worry all the time.
FaFoxy wrote:
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All my cats are rescues from the streets. Since moving here to Arizona, they have never been outside because it's to dangerous. Even though I live in a suburban\urban area (Oro Valley-Casas Adobes-Tucson), there is a lot of dangerous wildlife around here including javelina.
My oldest cat now, Calley, a male, I adopted from a nice lady in College Point, Queens (NY) in May, 2000 when he was about 5 months old. He was missing the lower half of his left hind leg at that time. I had the remainder removed in 2007.
Samantha, my only female I adopted at the age of about a year old in 2002. I also adopted her daughter, Sandra, who was born with a lot of birth defects, and unfortunately she died suddenly a few months later.:(
The last 2 cats I adopted in late 2010, from upstate New York. Jaime is a small male with a beautiful red mackeral tabby coat who was only a few weeks old when I took him in. His mother was a 3-footed feral cat that had kittens.
A few weeks later, I took in a BIG long-haired male cat I named Grayson. He's the only long-haired cat I have ever had.
Allthough I lived in a small city upstate New York, there was a LOT of wildlife around me, including, but not limited to, feral cats, foxes, skunks, wolves, and other wonderful creatures.
I particularly liked watching the foxes. They are VERY TIMID creatures ! In late 2009, they would stroll down the street at dusk, and stop at various houses looking for food, and\or a handout. After feeding my cats, I would put catfood out on my front wooden deck for the feral cats. I was very surprised that the foxes would eat it. But if they saw me, or anyone, watching them eat, they would dash off.
So I bought a webcam on ebay for one cent, set it up in one of my front windows, and would watch the foxes eat. They were adorable !
But if the foxes even SAW just a kitten, they would run off in fright ! I saw a fox come around the car in my driveway one evening, and he was surprised by a tiny kitten. The kitten, probablly no more than 5 weeks old, raised it's back and hissed at teh fox, ans he ran off as fast as he could. LOL
Take care of God's animals ! DON'T eat them !
The foxes visiting me was kinda the inspiriation for my name here.

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Jul 24, 2012
 
Hey BSA.. we the people want our tax money back

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havent forgotten wrote:
what a charming story and description, and set of nice attitudes. really cute story about the fox and kitten! I would not have guessed it! so glad to become acquainted with you. I feed 3 stray cats, and two kittens, in town. They refuse to live inside, and I worry all the time.<quoted text>
Years ago, when I lived in the suburbs in New York, my 3 cats went outside everyday. Rarely was ther eever a problem because of that.

But since moving here to southern Arizona, I've been told by my vet and others never to let any of my cats outside in this area because of the javelina and other wild animals here. Although I've never seen them, the property manager here says he has seen javelina in the parking lot.

I hope to rent a house here in the next month or so, and then buy a house here after that. I plan on seeing if I can make a large fenced-in area completely enclosed and let my cats outside in that if it's safe to do so. Depending where I end up living. I'd like to stay in Pima County here. I'd really like to stay in Oro Valley which is where I am now, but it's rather ritzy and I don't think I'll be able to find something here I can afford.

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