Atheist Islamophobia... Again

Atheist Islamophobia... Again

There are 3765 comments on the Religion Dispatched story from Apr 9, 2013, titled Atheist Islamophobia... Again. In it, Religion Dispatched reports that:

Sparked by a Richard Dawkins tweet , in which he drew a parallel between Islamists and Nazis, Nathan Lean recently suggested on Salon.com that the most famous representatives of the new atheism "flirt with" Islamophobia [echoing Chris Stedman's prescient warning to fellow atheists on RD this past August]. As the article explains, Dawkins, Hitchens ... (more)

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“Think&Care”

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#1202 May 7, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
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A higher spatial dimension explains the results elegantly!
Really? Care to give specifics? As in a detailed mathematical theory that can predict the results of experiments?

I didn't think so.
But that means there is ROOM for God in the fourth spatial dimension!!!
You don't understand the concept of a dimension. And even if there were 'room', that is in no way a proof of existence.

“Think&Care”

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#1203 May 7, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
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You can not see the connections cause you reject energy, spirit!
Energy is a central concept in physics. You have no evidence for the existence of a spirit.

“Think&Care”

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#1204 May 7, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
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Isaiah 66:7-8
Isaiah prophecied that Israel would become a nation again and that it would happen in one day!
Bible passage: Isaiah 66:7-8
Prophet: Isaiah
Written: perhaps between 701-681 BC
Fulfilled: 1948
In Isaiah 66:7-8, the prophet foreshadowed the re-birth of Israel, which happened "in one day." The woman giving birth before going into labor represent Israel. This accurately describes what happened on May 14, 1948 - when the Jews declared independence for Israel as a united and sovereign nation for the first time in 2,900 years.
During that same day, the United States issued a statement recognizing Israel's sovereignty. And, only hours beforehand, a United Nations mandate expired, ending British control of the land. During a 24-hour span of time, foreign control of the land of Israel had formally ceased, and Israel had declared its independence, and its independence was acknowledged by other nations. Modern Israel was literally was born in a single day.
Isaiah said the birth would take place before there would be labor pains. And that too is precisely what happened. A movement called Zionism began in the 1800s to encourage Jews worldwide to move to Israel, which at that time was called Palestine. Within hours of the declaration of independence in 1948, Israel was attacked by the surrounding countries of Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Saudi Arabia.
When reading Isaiah 66:7-8, keep in mind that Israel's status as a sovereign nation was established and reaffirmed during the course of a single day, and that it was born of a movement called Zionism, and that its declaration of independence was not the result of a war but rather the cause of one.
http://therefinersfire.org/israel_born_in_one...
It always amazes me how much people can read into complete bulls^^t.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#1205 May 7, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
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Nope!
I am trying to shine light on you!
If there are higher spatial dimensions, why can not some being be in there as we are in this three dimensionly one?
See? Yes, there is ROOM for God in higher dimensions!!!
OK, what are the laws of physics in those higher dimensions? Exactly how is God allowed? How does 'having room' show the existence? How do you rule out a pesky teenager as the 'creator of the universe'? Or a scientists accidentally making it in a lab? If you are postulating a living being in this higher dimensional space, it is reasonable to assume a whole species of such beings. Why do you limit yourself to only one? How about a universe designed by committee (which would explain a LOT!)?

The narrowness of your thinking is obvious.

“Think&Care”

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#1206 May 7, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
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You are flatland to God!!
You screen ther are only two dimension and stop claiming there are more!!
Here comes Mr. Sphere and you can not understand how a flat circle come and grow in your two dimension world!!!
Oh goody, someone has read Flatland.
Thinking

Sheffield, UK

#1207 May 7, 2013
Morality predates religion.
martinezjosei wrote:
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You do not understand the concept of morality!
To control your impulses you must have discipline.
To enjoy life without disciple is not enjoyment but discipline requires sacrifice.

“Think&Care”

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#1208 May 7, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
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Prophecy: Old Testament: Leviticus 26:3, 7-8 (Written: around 1400 BC)
"If you follow my decrees and are careful to obey my commands,… You will pursue your enemies, and they will fall by the sword before you. Five of you will chase a hundred, and a hundred of you will chase ten thousand, and your enemies will fall by the sword before you."
Typical propagandistic speech to boost morale.

Why do you think it has ANYTHING to do with the creation of Israel?

Let me give you an example of a *real* prediction of the future.

On August 21, 2017 there will be a total eclipse of the sun. The path of totality will sweep across the continental US, starting in Oregon and ending in South Carolina. It will have a maximum duration of 2 minutes, 40 seconds in western Kentucky, where it totality starts at 18:25:29 UT.

Do you see the difference? The 'prediction' in your Bible has no specifics, is very vague, could potentially apply to *any* conflict and is typical of morale boosting speeches. The scientific one is specific in details, including time, location, duration, etc. There is no room to 'interpret' via your personal delusions.

So, as far as predictions go, your Bible loses badly.
Lincoln

United States

#1209 May 7, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Easy, with the US military backing them.
You seem not to believe in God
but you do believ Hitler.:-)
Amusing for the many lurkers on this thread
Lincoln

United States

#1210 May 7, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Morality predates religion.
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no documentation of course :-)
Thinking

Sheffield, UK

#1211 May 7, 2013
I have no wish to see your passport.
Lincoln wrote:
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no documentation of course :-)
Lincoln

United States

#1212 May 7, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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The only reason Israel was formed in the first place was because a bunch of people who wanted to believe in the bible forced it into existence, and it was not "one single day," it took the US a long time to force it into existence, lots of money and threats exchanged. When people make something they think is suppose to happen occur, it's not a prophecy fulfilled, it's delusion causing imbalance in the world.
Your grasp of history is funny.
This the most amusing history of the Near East
The more you post on History the more amusing..

...some atheists seem to take Hitler promises and statement as valid.
"The Sudetenland] is the last territorial claim that I have to make in Europe." Hitler after Munch 1938

...this poster might look up an event between 1939 to 1945 which seemed to indicate to Poland and Europe and Hitler lied. Atheists Trust Hitler

University classes in your area must exist.

Have a fun day - Peace
Lincoln

United States

#1213 May 7, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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The only reason Israel was formed in the first place was because a bunch of people who wanted to believe in the bible forced it into existence, and it was not "one single day," it took the US a long time to force it into existence, lots of money and threats exchanged. When people make something they think is suppose to happen occur, it's not a prophecy fulfilled, it's delusion causing imbalance in the world.
Most amusing History :-)
You ignore reality :-)
Thinking

Norwich, UK

#1214 May 7, 2013
What has Edvard Munch got to do with your straw men?
Lincoln wrote:
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Your grasp of history is funny.
This the most amusing history of the Near East
The more you post on History the more amusing..
...some atheists seem to take Hitler promises and statement as valid.
"The Sudetenland] is the last territorial claim that I have to make in Europe." Hitler after Munch 1938
...this poster might look up an event between 1939 to 1945 which seemed to indicate to Poland and Europe and Hitler lied. Atheists Trust Hitler
University classes in your area must exist.
Have a fun day - Peace

Since: Nov 11

Marengo, OH

#1215 May 7, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Your god is impossible in a quantum mechanical universe.

Omniscience-- a feature of your imaginary god-- would prevent quantum mechanics from working at all.

There is plenty of proof quantum mechanics IS true, and IS working.

Thus?

Your god cannot exist.

*poof*
You are wrong!

Quantum Theory says that observation creates reality.

That meant that if no one is observing then realtor died not exist!!!

Did the tree fall when no one was looking? That question had actually being asked by PhD Physicists!

"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" is a philosophical thought experiment that raises questions regarding observation and knowledge of reality.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_a_tree_fall...

See? Nothing happens unless God knows about it, to make it real!

Since: Nov 11

Marengo, OH

#1216 May 7, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Well let's see, even I know that in the quantum world, as it's often called, particles do not exist as they do in the macro world, you know, the things and particles that seem solid. So yes, you admitted to being perplexed. There are no "higher spacial dimensions," whatever you mean by that, the four physical dimensions that exist in the universe are often labeled as x, y, z and w. W is often replaced by the word "time" when using the colloquial of depth, width, height, and time. If you are talking about existential "dimensions" then you are talking about nothing but random musings of age old philosophers who knew nothing of physics.
WRONG!!!

Isomorphic molecules prove you wrong!!!

There is a measurable higher SPATIAL dimensions calculated by String Theory!!!

Since: Nov 11

Marengo, OH

#1217 May 7, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, no, a computer monitor has about four "dimensions," depending on how loosely you define the word "dimension." Old CRT monitors have five, technically. The the more modern LCD/LED monitors it's height, width, depth (lightness/brightness) and frequency (color). If you are talking about strictly physical dimensions, it has three, because even paper has depth. Interesting fact, VRAM, the memory in your video card, reads images upside down, bottom up as we call it, because then the read-write operations can be tight, as in no lag between them, because it takes several extra PU operations to jump back to the beginning, so it reads from the end, where the write operation leaves off, back to the beginning for the next write operation to begin.
So there are higher dimensions!!!!

You prove yourself wrong!!!

Since: Nov 11

Marengo, OH

#1218 May 7, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>No-- you are so far gone around the bend of insanity, that it is the trivial things that are more amusing.

Seriously-- nobody here takes you seriously, we are all laughing.
They made fun of Einstein too!

Since: Nov 11

Marengo, OH

#1219 May 7, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>you think some proven mythical god helped Israel in the six days war?!?

where was this mythical god during the holocaust?

doesn't matter...your god is proven myth.

your cult lied to you...again...
The "mythical god" prophecied it five thousand years ago!!!

And wrote it in a book called The Bible!

Since: Nov 11

Marengo, OH

#1220 May 7, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, you're one of those....

LOL
Yes, and Sept 11 really happened, Dude!

Do you live in a cave?

Since: Nov 11

Marengo, OH

#1221 May 7, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>So, without the prospect of heaven, you would be a sociopathic monster?

wow....
It is not black and white. Are you a Liberal?

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