Atheist Islamophobia... Again

Apr 9, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Religion Dispatched

Sparked by a Richard Dawkins tweet , in which he drew a parallel between Islamists and Nazis, Nathan Lean recently suggested on Salon.com that the most famous representatives of the new atheism "flirt with" Islamophobia [echoing Chris Stedman's prescient warning to fellow atheists on RD this past August]. As the article explains, Dawkins, Hitchens ... (more)

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Indeed we do-- his first reply to me, was to try to prove Hitler was not associated with the catholics-- in spite of photographic evidence to the contrary (which he refused to even look at).
Classic godbottery.
Yep. Refusing to look means that he didn't see it... and if he didn't see he can claim it doesn't exist... and since it "doesn't exist" (simply because he refused to look) means he can continue to use it as an 'argument' for his 'god'.
Apparently, the 'god' he worships is dumb as a stump and more gullible than it's followers. But that would make sense wouldn't it?
They'll claim it's all knowing and all seeing and one of it's top 10 no-no's is about bearing false witness... yet bearing false witness is all they have to use when they argue for their religion. Apparently they believe their 'god' is too stupid to notice when they flat out ignore that particular commandment

Seeing is believing so NOT seeing is not believing.... except in religion, of course, where NOT seeing is grounds for die-hard belief.

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californio wrote:
<quoted text> Yes it is and Loma Linda is a pioneer in its use.
Im a Tech, but the janitor jibe is useless here because
1) First to work even in Housekeeping you need to know more then how to sling a mop.Even janitors have to be able to read and understand things like Chemical data sheets and Universal precautions.
2) Unlike liberals , I respect ALL honest labor .I dont hold a man better then me because he makes more or hold him in contempt cause he makes less as long as its honest work.
Being a conservative myself, i know all about honest labor. I had my own landscape design/installation firm and now am in heavy equipment operations. honest labor is all i know.
but you being a scientist that doesn't even know what proton therapy is or how to spell it seems pretty laughable...

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Also? Follow the money-- many purely christian "colleges" charge a great deal of money for the "education" they are selling-- usually double or triple what a secular State college might charge.
Bolt into that, there are scholarships funded by Fundie Christian churches, to help send their kids to the abusive "colleges".
And of course, government loan programs too.
Then look at the drop-out rate-- are these "colleges" all that concerned with that? Not really-- so long as they get their tuition moneys....
... it's big business.
Ok as for Cost I did a quick check and compared Loma Linda To the University of Redlands a local private Liberal arts school
University of Redlands
http://www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/co...
And loma Linda University
http://www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/co...
So Loma Linda cost almost $28,000 a year while Redlands University cost over $39,000 a year
Now both are considered good schools and are accredited ,but Loma Linda is also Medical school while Redlands is a liberal arts school. So I would not say Loma Linda is gouging its student compared to other private schools.
I chose Redlands to compare to Loma Linda because it in the area and neither is a big name school.
I could of compared both to Harvey Mudd college Which cost more then both, as its near here but its a specialist school. go there if you are really interested in Science.

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Being a conservative myself, i know all about honest labor. I had my own landscape design/installation firm and now am in heavy equipment operations. honest labor is all i know.
but you being a scientist that doesn't even know what proton therapy is or how to spell it seems pretty laughable...
never claimed to be a scientist, stated I was a Tech. Big difference.

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Well, since you've already been established is telling outright lies?
Your post above is rather dubious, isn't it?
Sorry, but that is the consequences of you, lying from the start..
projecting are we. Ok where have I told a lie.

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<quoted text> never claimed to be a scientist, stated I was a Tech. Big difference.
hopefully not for the proton therepy [sic] treatment for radiation department...

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<quoted text>Yep. Refusing to look means that he didn't see it... and if he didn't see he can claim it doesn't exist... and since it "doesn't exist" (simply because he refused to look) means he can continue to use it as an 'argument' for his 'god'.
Apparently, the 'god' he worships is dumb as a stump and more gullible than it's followers. But that would make sense wouldn't it?
They'll claim it's all knowing and all seeing and one of it's top 10 no-no's is about bearing false witness... yet bearing false witness is all they have to use when they argue for their religion. Apparently they believe their 'god' is too stupid to notice when they flat out ignore that particular commandment
Seeing is believing so NOT seeing is not believing.... except in religion, of course, where NOT seeing is grounds for die-hard belief.
I seen the picture and they mean nothing unles syou know the context of the pictures.
I could post picture of Catholics for choice and Catholic for Gay rights and then claim the Catholic church supported both, would not make it true?
Might point out many of the pictures of Hitler with religious leaders where taken at president Hindenburg funeral.bowing you head and crossing your hands at a funeral is a sign of respect no matter what your faith or do atheist just laugh and joke? And same with meeting the Priest conducting the funeral. means nothing.
Alamo ministry has plenty of information on both Abortion and Gays too, should i believe that too?

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>hopefully not for the proton therepy [sic] treatment for radiation department...
sheesh!
At least I know Hitler diaries are a forgery. Think after Times magazine exposed it as a forgery and put it on the cover no one would use it as a source.
http://www.bing.com/images/search...

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<quoted text> Yes it is and Loma Linda is a pioneer in its use.
Im a Tech, but the janitor jibe is useless here because
1) First to work even in Housekeeping you need to know more then how to sling a mop.Even janitors have to be able to read and understand things like Chemical data sheets and Universal precautions.
2) Unlike liberals , I respect ALL honest labor .I dont hold a man better then me because he makes more or hold him in contempt cause he makes less as long as its honest work.
Ah, you're one of "those" idiots.

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<quoted text> never claimed to be a scientist, stated I was a Tech. Big difference.
Maintenance is not the same thing as a "tech" in the scientific or medical fields.

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<quoted text> I seen the picture and they mean nothing unles syou know the context of the pictures.
I could post picture of Catholics for choice and Catholic for Gay rights and then claim the Catholic church supported both, would not make it true?
Might point out many of the pictures of Hitler with religious leaders where taken at president Hindenburg funeral.bowing you head and crossing your hands at a funeral is a sign of respect no matter what your faith or do atheist just laugh and joke? And same with meeting the Priest conducting the funeral. means nothing.
Alamo ministry has plenty of information on both Abortion and Gays too, should i believe that too?
"I seen the picture"?!? seriously? i really have to doubt you ever made it out of high school...

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<quoted text>"I seen the picture"?!? seriously? i really have to doubt you ever made it out of high school...
I don't think he ever made it in to school.

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I don't think he ever made it in to school.
Highly edumacated, I'm sure...

sad thing is, one doesn't even need school to be educated. somehow this guy missed out on it every which way he could...

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<quoted text>Highly edumacated, I'm sure...
sad thing is, one doesn't even need school to be educated. somehow this guy missed out on it every which way he could...
So true. I knew next to nothing about biology getting out of school, learned it all self-taught and just because it fascinated me. I had to learn all my computer software engineering self taught as well, simply because such classes were not available at the time, not for personal computer software. It's not difficult to learn, people just need to ... stop being so lazy.

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Maintenance is not the same thing as a "tech" in the scientific or medical fields.
One of the things I pride myaself on is I hardly ever use personal insults. Just check my record of post here.

and there are several reasons for this.
first I believe in using logic and fact and as that the mature way to have a debate.
Another is is studies have shown about only one in twenty people who come to boards like these post. And of the people who do not post, they are more likely to be in the middle and more open and likely to be swayed one way or another. And childish insults are a BIG turn off for them and and people who use insults have no influence on them.
In truth I post for the 19 people who will not ever post here not the ones who do.

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i know that I will never convince people that
Obama was not born in Kenya.
that Hitlerwas not a dedicated Catholic
Or that Bush did not plan 9/11
people will always find some sliver of "fact" to prove they are right.

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<quoted text> One of the things I pride myaself on is I hardly ever use personal insults. Just check my record of post here.
and there are several reasons for this.
first I believe in using logic and fact and as that the mature way to have a debate.
Another is is studies have shown about only one in twenty people who come to boards like these post. And of the people who do not post, they are more likely to be in the middle and more open and likely to be swayed one way or another. And childish insults are a BIG turn off for them and and people who use insults have no influence on them.
In truth I post for the 19 people who will not ever post here not the ones who do.
dear...getting called out on your obvious bullshit isn't a personal insult, it is a personal favor to you.

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i know that I will never convince people that
Obama was not born in Kenya.
that Hitlerwas not a dedicated Catholic
Or that Bush did not plan 9/11
people will always find some sliver of "fact" to prove they are right.
You buy any conspiracy nuttery and expect no one to insult you. Irony.

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You buy any conspiracy nuttery and expect no one to insult you. Irony.
Oh jeez...I didn't even know the fool was a 'truther' whack-job! that is worthy of insults...and forced medication in most states...

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i know that I will never convince people that
Obama was not born in Kenya.
that Hitlerwas not a dedicated Catholic
Or that Bush did not plan 9/11
people will always find some sliver of "fact" to prove they are right.
dude, have you figured out at what temperature the contrail chemicals in the jet fuel burn at so it would melt the steel in the twin towers?

you do realize these two conspiracies groups were working together, don't you? it's a conspiracy wrapped up in a cabal, inside a plot twist....

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