Atheist Islamophobia... Again

Atheist Islamophobia... Again

There are 3766 comments on the Religion Dispatched story from Apr 9, 2013, titled Atheist Islamophobia... Again. In it, Religion Dispatched reports that:

Sparked by a Richard Dawkins tweet , in which he drew a parallel between Islamists and Nazis, Nathan Lean recently suggested on Salon.com that the most famous representatives of the new atheism "flirt with" Islamophobia [echoing Chris Stedman's prescient warning to fellow atheists on RD this past August]. As the article explains, Dawkins, Hitchens ... (more)

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Lincoln

United States

#878 Apr 29, 2013
Thinking wrote:
If religion hadn't taught Hitler and the German people to hate the jews, then a lot of civilians would not have been killed.
<quoted text>
Look up Nietzsche and French attitudes during the occupation.
Seem a typical knee jerk response.
A militant atheist is one who is hostile towards religion. They differ from moderate atheists because they have the desire to propagate atheism and also hold religion to be harmful.
Militant atheism was an integral part of
the French Revolution,
Soviet Union,
Nazi Germany,
China's Cultural Revolution, and is expresses itself today in the ideas of the New Atheist authors.
Militant atheist:
All religion does is cause violence! Blah! Blah! Blah!
Thinking

Magherafelt, UK

#879 Apr 29, 2013
Not just violence, religion abuses kids too.
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
All religion does is cause violence!
Lincoln

United States

#880 Apr 29, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Not just violence, religion abuses kids too.
<quoted text>
Atheism under Stalin murdered 5 million kids,
I guess this might be abuse unless
one was an official Atheist.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#881 Apr 29, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Look up Nietzsche and French attitudes during the occupation.
Seem a typical knee jerk response.
A militant atheist is one who is hostile towards religion. They differ from moderate atheists because they have the desire to propagate atheism and also hold religion to be harmful.
Militant atheism was an integral part of
the French Revolution,
Soviet Union,
Nazi Germany,
China's Cultural Revolution, and is expresses itself today in the ideas of the New Atheist authors.
Militant atheist:
All religion does is cause violence! Blah! Blah! Blah!
There is no such thing as 'militant atheism', only aggressive religionism. Atheism only exists because of religious belief in god(s).
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/atheist

Superstition and religious tribalism (e.g. Zionism and Islamism) are the problems nowadays. So is Christian prejudices against non-believers...
http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/ghwbush.h...

http://atheism.about.com/od/atheistbigotrypre...
Imhotep

Wimauma, FL

#882 Apr 29, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Look up Nietzsche and French attitudes during the occupation.
Seem a typical knee jerk response.
A militant atheist is one who is hostile towards religion. They differ from moderate atheists because they have the desire to propagate atheism and also hold religion to be harmful.
Militant atheism was an integral part of
the French Revolution,
Soviet Union,
Nazi Germany,
China's Cultural Revolution, and is expresses itself today in the ideas of the New Atheist authors.
Militant atheist:
All religion does is cause violence! Blah! Blah! Blah!
What a Nimrod, a maroon!
You need to return to Bible study

Atheism embodies no particular ideology, world view or dogma and cannot be justified as any significant factor in the activities of these people.

If anything, the lack of belief in a supernatural overlord leaves one to respect the importance of all of mankind peacefully coexisting, because unlike in religious doctrine, the penalties one may face for immoral acts are often levied in the material world, during the life of the perpetrator.

Indeed to the founder of communist doctrines, Karl Marx (1818-1883), atheism, was just a stage on the path to communism, and it was ultimately "unreal" and "no longer needed" by socialism and communism.

This is what Karl Marx himself said about atheism: "Atheism as a denial of this unreality; has no longer any meaning, for atheism is a denial of God and tries to assert through this negation the existence of man; but socialism as such no longer needs this mediation."

Consider this statement carefully!

If Karl Marx, the intellectual founder of Marxism and communism, repudiated atheism as meaningless and no longer needed, how then could atheism be considered the cause of the atrocities committed under communism?

Next?

Allah willing
Yours in Christ
Shalom

;)
Libertarian

London, UK

#883 Apr 29, 2013
If you god is real why does he or his followers worry about a group of unbelievers giving their opinions.

Atheists are not islamaphobic. To an atheist all religions have exactly the same value - none.

Islam is no better or worse than christianity, buddhism or scientology. There are all the same.
All have no evidence for their beliefs.

The middle east was at the forefront of science and learning 1500 yrs ago. Then it stopped and stagnated. Guess why.
The moment you say something is the very word of a god you can't then change it EVER. So you are locked into a system of beliefs and morals that the society at that time set.

Can you seriously imagine the world in 10,000 years time and your still living by your word of god.

You'll belong in a museum or zoo by then if you haven't adapted.
Thinking

Dundee, UK

#884 Apr 29, 2013
I have plenty of examples where Hitler used religion to justify murder. You will already have seen these.

Do you have any where Stalin used Atheism to justify murder?
I have not seen any. Did Stalin write anything relevant to your argument whilst at priest school?
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism under Stalin murdered 5 million kids,
I guess this might be abuse unless
one was an official Atheist.
Lincoln

United States

#885 Apr 29, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I have plenty of examples where Hitler used religion to justify murder. You will already have seen these.
Do you have any where Stalin used Atheism to justify murder?
I have not seen any. Did Stalin write anything relevant to your argument whilst at priest school?
<quoted text>
Hitler lied a lot.

this seems lost
on evangelic atheists.
LOL
Lincoln

United States

#886 Apr 29, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>There is no such thing as 'militant atheism', only aggressive religionism. Atheism only exists because of religious belief in god(s).
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/atheist
Superstition and religious tribalism (e.g. Zionism and Islamism) are the problems nowadays. So is Christian prejudices against non-believers...
http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/ghwbush.h...
http://atheism.about.com/od/atheistbigotrypre...
"there is no such thing as 'militant atheism"

this thread and the other atheist threads

illustrate militant evangelistic atheism

every day :-)
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#887 Apr 29, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Hitler lied a lot.
this seems lost
on evangelic atheists.
LOL
You're just a troll.
Lincoln

United States

#888 Apr 29, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
What a Nimrod, a maroon!
You need to return to Bible study
Atheism embodies no particular ideology, world view or dogma and cannot be justified as any significant factor in the activities of these people.
If anything, the lack of belief in a supernatural overlord leaves one to respect the importance of all of mankind peacefully coexisting, because unlike in religious doctrine, the penalties one may face for immoral acts are often levied in the material world, during the life of the perpetrator.
Indeed to the founder of communist doctrines, Karl Marx (1818-1883), atheism, was just a stage on the path to communism, and it was ultimately "unreal" and "no longer needed" by socialism and communism.
This is what Karl Marx himself said about atheism: "Atheism as a denial of this unreality; has no longer any meaning, for atheism is a denial of God and tries to assert through this negation the existence of man; but socialism as such no longer needs this mediation."
Consider this statement carefully!
If Karl Marx, the intellectual founder of Marxism and communism, repudiated atheism as meaningless and no longer needed, how then could atheism be considered the cause of the atrocities committed under communism?
Next?
Allah willing
Yours in Christ
Shalom
;)
Sorry Don't do Bible Study,

Do "atheist thread study"

Atheists love to dish it out
but get so sensitive when
their philosophy is examined
with appropriate humor.
Lincoln

United States

#889 Apr 29, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>You're just a troll.
and You are Not?

You are a bit defensive?
Thinking

Dundee, UK

#890 Apr 29, 2013
Ask EdSed a question and you'll get an answer.

Ask Lincoln a question and you'll get dribbling cuntardery.
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
and You are Not?
You are a bit defensive?
Lincoln

United States

#891 Apr 29, 2013
Atheists seem to enjoy pointing out the problems with Christianity
but
at the same time take atheism as a philosophy seriously.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#892 Apr 29, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Hitler lied a lot.
this seems lost
on evangelic atheists.
LOL
And facts seem lost on theists. The fact that you can't shake the evil off...

Doesn't your cult tell you to admit your faults?

If you can't even confess that hitler was Christian, what hope is there for your higher morality?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#893 Apr 29, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Look up Nietzsche and French attitudes during the occupation.
Seem a typical knee jerk response.
A militant atheist is one who is hostile towards religion. They differ from moderate atheists because they have the desire to propagate atheism and also hold religion to be harmful.
Militant atheism was an integral part of
the French Revolution,
Soviet Union,
Nazi Germany,
China's Cultural Revolution, and is expresses itself today in the ideas of the New Atheist authors.
Militant atheist:
All religion does is cause violence! Blah! Blah! Blah!
Theists like you don't realise that your opinions about reality don't count until you've proven your god.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#894 Apr 29, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism under Stalin murdered 5 million kids,
I guess this might be abuse unless
one was an official Atheist.
Tell us all with your mighty god given intelligence where in the definition of atheism it asks us to murder and kill people?

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#895 Apr 29, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry Don't do Bible Study,
Do "atheist thread study"
Atheists love to dish it out
but get so sensitive when
their philosophy is examined
with appropriate humor.
Failed humor is like no humor at all. Most of your humor fails so bdly that it isn't even perceived as attempted humor. Your just not very good at it, so you probably ought to try your hand at something else.
Lincoln

United States

#896 Apr 29, 2013
President Obama

"I was not raised in a particularly religious household. I had a father who was born a Muslim but became an atheist, grandparents who were non-practicing Methodists and Baptists, and a mother who was skeptical of organized religion, even as she was the kindest, most spiritual person I've ever known. She was the one who taught me as a child to love, and to understand, and to do unto others as I would want done.

"I didn't become a Christian until many years later, when I moved to the South Side of Chicago after college. It happened not because of indoctrination or a sudden revelation, but because I spent month after month working with church folks who simply wanted to help neighbors who were down on their luck no matter what they looked like, or where they came from, or who they prayed to. It was on those streets, in those neighborhoods, that I first heard God's spirit beckon me. It was there that I felt called to a higher purpose -- His purpose."

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#897 Apr 29, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
President Obama
"I was not raised in a particularly religious household. I had a father who was born a Muslim but became an atheist, grandparents who were non-practicing Methodists and Baptists, and a mother who was skeptical of organized religion, even as she was the kindest, most spiritual person I've ever known. She was the one who taught me as a child to love, and to understand, and to do unto others as I would want done.
"I didn't become a Christian until many years later, when I moved to the South Side of Chicago after college. It happened not because of indoctrination or a sudden revelation, but because I spent month after month working with church folks who simply wanted to help neighbors who were down on their luck no matter what they looked like, or where they came from, or who they prayed to. It was on those streets, in those neighborhoods, that I first heard God's spirit beckon me. It was there that I felt called to a higher purpose -- His purpose."
You know when writing (or copying and pasting) a post, especially one that bears no relationship to either the root topic or the present context of a thread, you might give some thought to how you would answer the retort/question, "So what?" What is your point here? Why do you seem to specialize in posts that are complete non sequiturs to the preceding posts? Do you realize just how clueless these posts make you look to the rest of the forum?

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