Atheist Islamophobia... Again

Atheist Islamophobia... Again

There are 3766 comments on the Religion Dispatched story from Apr 9, 2013, titled Atheist Islamophobia... Again. In it, Religion Dispatched reports that:

Sparked by a Richard Dawkins tweet , in which he drew a parallel between Islamists and Nazis, Nathan Lean recently suggested on Salon.com that the most famous representatives of the new atheism "flirt with" Islamophobia [echoing Chris Stedman's prescient warning to fellow atheists on RD this past August]. As the article explains, Dawkins, Hitchens ... (more)

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#3641 Aug 31, 2013
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> If that is your belief, fine. But stop with the crap to other people here. There are people who would take you apart on biblical scripture. I would even believe you if the godless parts of America was all milk and honey. But it seems that the god of government is paying people off and it cost several times more to do the same thing to survive then when the cults had a bigger say. And we have to do it by enslaving many overseas for our foray into the seven deadly sins. There are many in the cults now that believe and/or know their God has left America as a protection also. And that means even more problems. the totalitarian state is now moving rapidly. You'll see.
oh sweetie...this is the adults talking here...you are way, way out of your league.

funny thing about religious cult members...all studies show that freethinkers and non-beleivers know far more about the religious cults than those people that actually say they are members and believers of those cults.

why is that? let's look at the very first lesson of the Abrahamic cult, from the garden of Eden; "Do not seek knowledge. do just as you are told and all will be perfect."..classic cult rhetoric. cults hate knowledge, it is the nemesis of cults. this is why most cults hate having the supposed word of their god printed and promulgated,(like the Abrahamic cult fought against) it only takes rational, logical people to prove it is false.

back to your wishing for the society you failed miserably at to collapse for you, serfer girl...bye bye...
LCNLin

United States

#3642 Aug 31, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>oh sweetie...this is the adults talking here...you are way, way out of your league.
funny thing about religious cult members...all studies show that freethinkers and non-beleivers know far more about the religious cults than those people that actually say they are members and believers of those cults.
why is that? let's look at the very first lesson of the Abrahamic cult, from the garden of Eden; "Do not seek knowledge. do just as you are told and all will be perfect."..classic cult rhetoric. cults hate knowledge, it is the nemesis of cults. this is why most cults hate having the supposed word of their god printed and promulgated,(like the Abrahamic cult fought against) it only takes rational, logical people to prove it is false.
back to your wishing for the society you failed miserably at to collapse for you, serfer girl...bye bye...
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>you could start with how an
already proven false god
could create Jesus...
"..Proven False God...,"
YOUR Statement :-)
State Your Proof
Checkmate !
LCNLin

United States

#3643 Aug 31, 2013
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> If that is your belief, fine. But stop with the crap to other people here. There are people who would take you apart on biblical scripture. I would even believe you if the godless parts of America was all milk and honey. But it seems that the god of government is paying people off and it cost several times more to do the same thing to survive then when the cults had a bigger say. And we have to do it by enslaving many overseas for our foray into the seven deadly sins. There are many in the cults now that believe and/or know their God has left America as a protection also. And that means even more problems. the totalitarian state is now moving rapidly. You'll see.
also seems defensive when challenged ;-)
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#3644 Aug 31, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>oh sweetie...this is the adults talking here...you are way, way out of your league.
funny thing about religious cult members...all studies show that freethinkers and non-beleivers know far more about the religious cults than those people that actually say they are members and believers of those cults.
why is that? let's look at the very first lesson of the Abrahamic cult, from the garden of Eden; "Do not seek knowledge. do just as you are told and all will be perfect."..classic cult rhetoric. cults hate knowledge, it is the nemesis of cults. this is why most cults hate having the supposed word of their god printed and promulgated,(like the Abrahamic cult fought against) it only takes rational, logical people to prove it is false.
back to your wishing for the society you failed miserably at to collapse for you, serfer girl...bye bye...
There is no wishing. Only your mouth. All of your verbal garbage and i notice all the time people snickering at gays if they are near and noticeable. That tells all. Amazing i am the one trying to stop the tyranny and you will be the one that gets the treatment. You are building up a sizable enemy. so keep spewing punk. Saul Alinsky lives!

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#3645 Aug 31, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
<quoted text>
also seems defensive when challenged ;-)
Cowardly creationist trol who lies about god and posts news when challenged!!!

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#3646 Aug 31, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
<quoted text>
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>you could start with how an
already proven false god
could create Jesus...
"..Proven False God...,"
YOUR Statement :-)
State Your Proof
Checkmate !
Lincoln Troll:

1. Too scared of facing up to evolution
2. Can prove the god he's here to lie about
3. Insults creationism by calling atheism a religion!

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#3647 Aug 31, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
<quoted text>
"...Proven False God...",
State
Your
Proof
Says the dinosaur denying idiot creationist.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#3648 Aug 31, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
<quoted text>
also seems defensive when challenged ;-)
sorry, defensive does not mean a thing. Lived in a neighborhood. Church was center of neighborhood. People looked out for each other. People did work and volunteering to keep neighborhood nice. Lower middle class ethnic neighborhood. Did not care for ignorance, arrogance, obnoxiousness of others. had good and bad times. But it cost several times less in real terms to raise a kid and people were responsible at a much higher level. That is gone. There is no challenge. Just lamenting a nation turning totalitarian and cool in real terms in our equality game that depends on denying anyone better due to percentages of groups being more important. Any way I used to look for American products. Now I abhor them unless guaranteed. Learned from the progressives. Yeah we threw away any thing close to a garden of eden. Even if others felt ostricized. We should have worked to improve that. You'll see. Now get ready to pay me my social security and medicare. Can't wait. And don't get defensive.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#3649 Aug 31, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
<quoted text>
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>you could start with how an
already proven false god
could create Jesus...
"..Proven False God...,"
YOUR Statement :-)
State Your Proof
Checkmate !
already done. why did you run away from it?...again... and yet again?

why is it you cannot counter the verifiable proof that the god of the Abrahamic cult is proven false?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#3650 Aug 31, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
<quoted text>
also seems defensive when challenged ;-)
not defensive at all. i even gave you some of the proof you ran away from before...and you ran away again...why is that?
LCNLin

United States

#3651 Aug 31, 2013
President Pulls Lawmakers Into Box He Made
By MARK LANDLER

WASHINGTON — More than once, President Obama has confided to aides that he regards Syria as one of those hellish problems every president faces, where the risks are endless, the choices are all bad, and the pressure to do something is unrelenting.

On Saturday, those treacherous crosscurrents were on vivid display in the Rose Garden. After two years of resisting deeper involvement in Syria, Mr. Obama finally decided to order a military strike — only to put his order on a shelf while he seeks Congressional approval.

For Mr. Obama, who presented his most fervent case yet that Syria needed to be punished for a deadly chemical weapons attack, the ironies are deep: having at last convinced himself of the imperative to act, he concluded that he had not secured enough political support at home to fire Tomahawk missiles at Syria.

As a former senator who built his foreign policy on extricating the United States from wars, he now faces one of the greatest challenges of his career in persuading Congress to thrust the United States into another conflict in the Middle East.

To a large degree, much of Mr. Obama’s quandary is that he boxed himself in by setting a “red line” on the use of chemical weapons by Syria, a line he now feels obliged to enforce to preserve his credibility. But the path to this messy moment has been complicated by more than an ill-advised utterance on Syria.

Throughout his presidency, whether the goal was closing the military prison in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, or backing the NATO air campaign in Libya, Mr. Obama has proved better at articulating legal principles than at managing the politics that could help him defend those principles.

Syria has also laid bare a fundamental contradiction: a president who is a staunch defender of international law on issues like the use of chemical weapons but also a reluctant warrior who is desperate to pull the United States out of the morass of the Middle East.

That ambivalence has been palpable in Mr. Obama’s public statements on possible military action. While Secretary of State John Kerry has delivered a thunderous case against President Bashar al-Assad, his boss has been circumspect, sprinkling his words with caveats about the modest scale of the operation and acknowledgments of the nation’s combat fatigue.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/01/world/middl...
LCNLin

United States

#3652 Aug 31, 2013
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That ambivalence has been palpable in Mr. Obama’s public statements on possible military action. While Secretary of State John Kerry has delivered a thunderous case against President Bashar al-Assad, his boss has been circumspect, sprinkling his words with caveats about the modest scale of the operation and acknowledgments of the nation’s combat fatigue.

“We don’t have good options, great options, for the region,” the president said in an interview Wednesday on the PBS program “NewsHour,” before describing a “limited, tailored” military operation that he said would amount to a “shot across the bow” for Mr. Assad’s government.

There are other reasons for his predicament, not least the legacy of the Iraq war, which contributed to the devastating vote against military force in the British Parliament. Then there is the intransigence of Syria’s big allies, Russia and China, which has precluded the endorsement of the United Nations Security Council, where both countries hold a veto.

But Mr. Obama himself has seemed torn. Having warned Mr. Assad in March that his use of chemical weapons would be a “game changer,” the president reacted to earlier, smaller-scale attacks by agreeing to supply arms to Syria’s rebels covertly, which meant the White House never openly discussed it.

Some analysts say that Mr. Obama’s determination even now to divorce military action from broader engagement in Syria may have complicated his effort to rally international support.

“We’re telling people, we still don’t want to get involved, we just want to punish this guy,” said Vali R. Nasr, the dean of the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies.“The reason people aren’t lining up with us is that they don’t have trust in our policy.”

At home, Mr. Obama has not felt political pressure to act. Recent polls show that a majority of Americans do not support military action against Syria, even if its government used chemical weapons. They are more closely divided if they are asked about a missile strike that would pose no risk to American lives.

When his national security staff begin debating how to respond to the Aug. 21 chemical weapons attack, Mr. Obama set off on a bus tour of Pennsylvania and upstate New York, where he barely mentioned Syria but told an audience that law school should be shortened from three years to two.

With Congress, the president’s effort to sell the military strike has been weakened by the belief, particularly among rank-and-file members, that he did not adequately consult them before committing American forces to the Libya air campaign in 2011.

Mr. Obama has been wrestling with how the United States should use its military might since the start of his presidency.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#3653 Aug 31, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>not defensive at all. i even gave you some of the proof you ran away from before...and you ran away again...why is that?
You are promoting the end of your own existence. To say that gays have been treated greatly would be fool hearty. But when you had the chance to build a foundation, you blew it. Since you blame or generalize on every group that you disagree with and very ugly with the remarks to. You will get it back someday. Innocent people always get affected in that scenario. You as a gay man are a dead end in the EVOLUTIONARY advances of men. You serve no purpose in a logical gaian culture. So you are not needed. by putting you in slave camps or exterminating you, more resources will be freed up for others. We have plenty of self imposed sickly people also that need to be dealt with. No reason for low IQ people not by nature, but by lack of initiative to be taking from the state. Unhealthy people in their twenties and thirties also. This will save trillions of dollars and make us a stronger nation. EVOLUTION must be our goal. And you are in the way of it. Since we all age, attrition will be our reward with reduced benefits paid out. You have watered down religious people who may have had views you hated, but many of them were not murderers. Now the near Godless culture will have no problem with it. It sucks don't it. I know. But can you at least get me my money back. 200 thousand dollars plus 7% interest compounded for the last 6 years and we are even. You trust people. People without anything don't care. People who have had their meager wealth stolen, they are waiting....

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3654 Aug 31, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>Ah, nice example of tunnel vision, sheldon. You, as well, haven't posted anything defending the POTUS...another example of hypocrisy on your part.
False.

I have said many times, in other places, that I support the current president.

And I'm saying it now.

But lying and attempting to belittle your bettors appears to be your only strategy.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3655 Aug 31, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>Ah, nice example of tunnel vision, sheldon. You, as well, haven't posted anything defending the POTUS...another example of hypocrisy on your part. Now let me take this opportunity to thank YOU for playing and proving my point. PS- did you see the news? Congree has exempted athiest organizations as tax-exempt, citing their "religous nature"- lol...
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>The two adjectives have nothing to do with each other, genius. A true sign of a liberal- throw out mindless insults and see if anything sticks. Hey sheldon- google "Temar Boggs", it should be a great story for you.
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>Gee, sheldon, I respect a LOT of people that I have yet to mention- if that is the prerequsite you insist upon then you respect barely anyone- lol. Pretty funny, sport- you complain about what I post and if I haven't posted anything even periferally related to the forum, you complain about THAT as well. My goodness, what a hypocrite you are. I pity you.
THREE chances to voice your support!

THREE.

But you HATE President Obama because you are just a BIGOT.

You hate he, simply because he is black.

You had THREE chances-- and you just blew them all.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3656 Aug 31, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>You came in late. I stated some pages ago that there is no evidence I can post nor links to provide with something observable and measureable by any of the five senses.
Proving to 100% that your god is myth.

Thanks!

“gun control takes two hands”

Since: Mar 13

outdoors

#3657 Aug 31, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
False.
I have said many times, in other places, that I support the current president.
And I'm saying it now.
But lying and attempting to belittle your bettors appears to be your only strategy.
Ah, "...in other places"...like much of your hate-rhetoric, your word is supposed to be good enough...my my my, what a hypocrite you are. I'm not sure who my "bettors" are as we haven't mentioned any wagers (or is that "wagors"?). I've yet to lie, sheldon- by NOT saying what you feel is my role to post, I suppose THAT is what you are refering to. Face it, bob, your only COA is to whine, bitch, complain and attempt belittling insults to people who follow the spirt of Jesus Christ simply because you cannot fathom what His message is. You would prefer people follow the vanity that accompanies intellect- ignoring the peace that is a characteristic of Wisdom- how shallow of you. I pity you.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3658 Aug 31, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>Ah, "...in other places"...like much of your hate-rhetoric, your word is supposed to be good enough...my my my, what a hypocrite you are. I'm not sure who my "bettors" are as we haven't mentioned any wagers (or is that "wagors"?). I've yet to lie, sheldon- by NOT saying what you feel is my role to post, I suppose THAT is what you are refering to. Face it, bob, your only COA is to whine, bitch, complain and attempt belittling insults to people who follow the spirt of Jesus Christ simply because you cannot fathom what His message is. You would prefer people follow the vanity that accompanies intellect- ignoring the peace that is a characteristic of Wisdom- how shallow of you. I pity you.
FOUR-- FOUR opportunities to voice your support for the current president.

FOUR.

Did you?

Nope.

My statement stands: YOU ARE BIGOTED.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3659 Aug 31, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
... to people who follow the spirt of Jesus Christ ...
Which would **NOT** include the LIKES OF YOU.

I have read the bible--(unlike YOU).

And NOWHERE IN IT, does your Jesus stoop to horrid insults.

NOR can you find anywhere your Jesus calls people names, or tries to tell them what the "are thinking".

YOU?

You are no more a follower of the spirit of Jesus than **I** am.

... meh.
LCNLin

United States

#3660 Aug 31, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>Ah, "...in other places"...like much of your hate-rhetoric, your word is supposed to be good enough...my my my, what a hypocrite you are. I'm not sure who my "bettors" are as we haven't mentioned any wagers (or is that "wagors"?). I've yet to lie, sheldon- by NOT saying what you feel is my role to post, I suppose THAT is what you are refering to. Face it, bob, your only COA is to whine, bitch, complain and attempt belittling insults to people who follow the spirt of Jesus Christ simply because you cannot fathom what His message is. You would prefer people follow the vanity that accompanies intellect- ignoring the peace that is a characteristic of Wisdom- how shallow of you. I pity you.
"shallow" but makes up for it with frequent Hate posts.

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