Atheist Islamophobia... Again

Atheist Islamophobia... Again

There are 3766 comments on the Religion Dispatched story from Apr 9, 2013, titled Atheist Islamophobia... Again. In it, Religion Dispatched reports that:

Sparked by a Richard Dawkins tweet , in which he drew a parallel between Islamists and Nazis, Nathan Lean recently suggested on Salon.com that the most famous representatives of the new atheism "flirt with" Islamophobia [echoing Chris Stedman's prescient warning to fellow atheists on RD this past August]. As the article explains, Dawkins, Hitchens ... (more)

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“gun control takes two hands”

Since: Mar 13

outdoors

#3600 Aug 29, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope.
I've seen the words by you Genuine Christholes™-- you hate the president and everything he's tried to do since being legally elected.
Your actions speak the loudest of all, after all.
Ah, assumptions, presumptions and just poor poor reasoning. If Sir Arthur Conan Doyle most famous character were modeled after you, the world wouldn't have a Most Famous Detective, it would have a Mediocre Lawn Care Specialist. What do you call it when you make generalizations about a particular group of people based on some observations of just a few?

“gun control takes two hands”

Since: Mar 13

outdoors

#3601 Aug 29, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
That is a flat lie.
Everyone just "knows" that the only think catholic priests want to take in, is little kids...
... so that -- you know -- they can "show them the holy ghost".
... <gag>
Here ya go, bob- something you never have, proof:http://search.yahoo.com/ issues-and-action/human-life-a nd-dignity/immigration/churcht eachingonimmigrationreform.cfm

“gun control takes two hands”

Since: Mar 13

outdoors

#3602 Aug 29, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
The news, and from listening to your Republican Heroes' comments, also in the news.
Since you "followers of jesus" keep **voting** for these bigots, I just naturally presumed you **agree** with what they spew.
Got news for you bob, there are bigots in every party and bigots outside both parties. If you want a recital, there are some youtube videos on the subject. Look for "the Guy from Brooklyn"- he is not only entertaining but enlightening- two characteristics you are sorely lacking in.

“gun control takes two hands”

Since: Mar 13

outdoors

#3603 Aug 29, 2013
http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG7nu0Qh9ScV... **http%3a//usccb.org/issues-an d-action/human-life-and-dignit y/immigration/

“gun control takes two hands”

Since: Mar 13

outdoors

#3604 Aug 29, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope.
I've seen the words by you Genuine Christholes™-- you hate the president and everything he's tried to do since being legally elected.
Your actions speak the loudest of all, after all.
One other thing, bob- assuming someone is prejudiced simply because of the color of someones skin is a form of prejudice. There's not a mirror in your house, is there?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#3605 Aug 29, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>One other thing, bob- assuming someone is prejudiced simply because of the color of someones skin is a form of prejudice. There's not a mirror in your house, is there?
If you were an honest person with morals, you wouldn't be repeating your creationist mental illness to us over and over again.
LCNlin

United States

#3606 Aug 29, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
If you were an honest person with morals, you wouldn't be repeating your creationist mental illness to us over and over again.
While trolling you might wish to read this?

'I can't be sure God DOES NOT exist':
World's most notorious atheist
Richard Dawkins admits he is in fact agnostic.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-21058...

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#3607 Aug 29, 2013
LCNlin wrote:
<quoted text>
While trolling you might wish to read this?
'I can't be sure God DOES NOT exist':
World's most notorious atheist
Richard Dawkins admits he is in fact agnostic.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-21058...
No pity for mentally ill creationist troll.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3608 Aug 29, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>Ah, assumptions, presumptions and just poor poor reasoning. If Sir Arthur Conan Doyle most famous character were modeled after you, the world wouldn't have a Most Famous Detective, it would have a Mediocre Lawn Care Specialist. What do you call it when you make generalizations about a particular group of people based on some observations of just a few?
Again, you stoop to the lowest common denominator: insults.

Again, you fail to state an actual... argument.

Again, all you do? Apart from the pathetic insults?

Is whine "is NOT! is NOT!" over and over--

-- that is the sum of your statement above.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3609 Aug 29, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>Here ya go, bob- something you never have, proof:http://search.yahoo.com/ issues-and-action/human-life-a nd-dignity/immigration/churcht eachingonimmigrationreform.cfm
Link does not work.

So apart from your pathetic insults?

You can't even work basic TOPIX!

And still you post no argument...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3610 Aug 29, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>Got news for you bob, there are bigots in every party and bigots outside both parties.
Of course!

But even one as poorly educated as YOU has to realize that the Republicans have by far, more bigots than the Democrats.

All in the name of "christianity", naturally.

I find that the **worst** bigots in **either** party?

Do so under that "christian" banner.

It's disgusting, really-- they try to "justify" their hate, their bigotry by claiming it's their ugly god who commands them...!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3611 Aug 29, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
If you want a recital, there are some youtube videos on the subject.
Riiiiight.... because "youtube" is SO accurate and factual...

..........riiiiiight...

... no WONDER you display such ignorance!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3613 Aug 29, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>One other thing, bob- assuming someone is prejudiced simply because of the color of someones skin is a form of prejudice.
No-- I assume prejudice based on WHAT YOU SAY.

And HOW YOU ACT.

You cannot muster up an actual ... ARGUMENT.

And I **have** read where you post horrid things about the president.

Without a single ARGUMENT to support them.

So it's pretty safe to presume you **hate** him, because he's black.

"How **dare** a black man presume to be president!"

Isn't that your attitude in a nutshell?
LCNlin

United States

#3614 Aug 29, 2013
In the Real World ...

British MPs have voted against possible military action against Syria to deter the use of chemical weapons.

David Cameron said it was clear the British Parliament does not want action and "I will act accordingly".

The government motion was defeated 285 to 272, a majority of 13 votes. BBC

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#3615 Aug 29, 2013
LCNlin wrote:
In the Real World ...
British MPs have voted against possible military action against Syria to deter the use of chemical weapons.
David Cameron said it was clear the British Parliament does not want action and "I will act accordingly".
The government motion was defeated 285 to 272, a majority of 13 votes. BBC
Creationist twit now telling us the news as its the closest he can get to any real world facts.

“gun control takes two hands”

Since: Mar 13

outdoors

#3616 Aug 29, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, you stoop to the lowest common denominator: insults.
Again, you fail to state an actual... argument.
Again, all you do? Apart from the pathetic insults?
Is whine "is NOT! is NOT!" over and over--
-- that is the sum of your statement above.
Ah, then perhaps I should follow your example and ooze hatred with every sentence, bob. I suppose it is acceptable to vent your hatred onto any Christians who dare enter this forum, but it isn't MY fault if you can't handle someone as adamant as you. I pity you.

“gun control takes two hands”

Since: Mar 13

outdoors

#3617 Aug 29, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
No-- I assume prejudice based on WHAT YOU SAY.
And HOW YOU ACT.
You cannot muster up an actual ... ARGUMENT.
And I **have** read where you post horrid things about the president.
Without a single ARGUMENT to support them.
So it's pretty safe to presume you **hate** him, because he's black.
"How **dare** a black man presume to be president!"
Isn't that your attitude in a nutshell?
You finally said something correct- you "assume prejudice." Prove I've posted anything "horrid" about the POTUS. Were that true, then there are millions of other blacks I could post "horrid" things about (because they are black as well, bob). The more you "presume" and "assume", the more you paint an accurate portrait of yourself- a hater, a bigot, a racist and a hypocrite. PS- in order to see "how I act", you would have to see me. Now you're back to normal...wrong.
LCNlin

United States

#3618 Aug 29, 2013
Islamophobia..........

The prospect of parliamentary opposition preventing the UK joining in US military action over Syria is a defining moment in British foreign policy. It poses questions both about the future of the UK-US alliance and the ability of the British prime minister to make war without a majority in the House of Commons.

To be clear, there have been important moments before when a British government has declined to take part in a US-led campaign. Perhaps the two most significant were former Prime Minister Harold Wilson's decision not to commit British troops to Vietnam and John Major's to give the 1992 intervention in Somalia a wide berth.

There were differences of view back then between different government departments or Cabinet members. I can remember, for example, from talking to Whitehall figures at the time that the Ministry of Defence was hostile to the idea of deploying to Somalia, whereas the Foreign Office was more positive about the idea.
US troops in Vietnam war The UK government chose to not join the US in action in Vietnam or Somalia

In the end though both the Wilson and Major governments made judgements, political ones, after hearing the views of various experts or interested parties.

Although the Wilson decision in particular was characterised by some at the time as a significant setback to the UK-US relationship there was no lasting damage and the two countries have happily joined forces to rain destruction on their foes in the years since.

Today's situation is different because it would appear that Prime Minister David Cameron is unable to deliver military support to the US despite his insistence that the two countries must stand together and that action must be taken to deter Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's regime from further use of chemical weapons.
Change in stance

From US President Barack Obama's point of view, this could transform the UK from the position of his country's most dependable ally into a significant complicating factor as he seeks to reassure a reluctant Congress and public that the US must act.

Mr Cameron's potential inability to deliver UK support reflects a failure to convince people, experts and public alike, that action against Syria is in the UK national interest. This is a particular irony given his 2010 electoral stance that British governments had sometimes been too ready to support the US without a proper consideration of whether it would benefit the country to do so.
Barack Obama A UK absence could hurt Mr Obama's ability to convince Congress and the public the US must act

Throughout the past two years, I have found contacts in the British military, Foreign Office, and intelligence services pretty much unanimous in opposing direct intervention in Syria, or in reciting all the practical difficulties that would prevent such action having a positive effect.

On Wednesday a senior military figure described to me the proposed limited cruise missile and airstrikes as "naïve and childlike", suggesting they would be too small to have any major effect on the regime and could produce all kinds of unintended consequences.

Do it "properly", with extensive support to the opposition over a prolonged period, or don't do it was the message - and it was given with a strong implication that there was no will in the US or UK to make a commitment of that kind.

BBC

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3619 Aug 29, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>Ah, then perhaps I should follow your example and ooze hatred with every sentence, bob. I suppose it is acceptable to vent your hatred onto any Christians who dare enter this forum, but it isn't MY fault if you can't handle someone as adamant as you. I pity you.
The hate you see? Is you.

Since I am constantly describing your religion and people like you?

I **must** use accurate and descriptive words.

Hate is one of the most accurate word in this instance.

Your post above? Helps prove my point...

... Thanks!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3620 Aug 29, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>You finally said something correct- you "assume prejudice." Prove I've posted anything "horrid" about the POTUS. Were that true, then there are millions of other blacks I could post "horrid" things about (because they are black as well, bob). The more you "presume" and "assume", the more you paint an accurate portrait of yourself- a hater, a bigot, a racist and a hypocrite. PS- in order to see "how I act", you would have to see me. Now you're back to normal...wrong.
You prove my point-- again.

If you **really** respected the president? You'd have said so before now.

But you have complained about President Obama previously-- and even now, when you had an opportunity to say something positive?

And in so doing, prove my earlier remarks wrong?

You did **not** do that-- you just talked **around** the whole thing, as in the above.

Thanks for playing!

You continue to confirm my observations that you are just another hate-cultist.

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