Atheist Islamophobia... Again

Atheist Islamophobia... Again

There are 3766 comments on the Religion Dispatched story from Apr 9, 2013, titled Atheist Islamophobia... Again. In it, Religion Dispatched reports that:

Sparked by a Richard Dawkins tweet , in which he drew a parallel between Islamists and Nazis, Nathan Lean recently suggested on Salon.com that the most famous representatives of the new atheism "flirt with" Islamophobia [echoing Chris Stedman's prescient warning to fellow atheists on RD this past August]. As the article explains, Dawkins, Hitchens ... (more)

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“gun control takes two hands”

Since: Mar 13

outdoors

#2198 Jun 15, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Your post is just DRIPPING with ... "compassion". Not.
Your hate of immigrants is duly noted and recorded.
Ironic, as YOU are from immigrants, too...
Wrong again, bob. I'm against i-l-l-e-g-a-l immigrants, the #s were just for comparison. PS- I'm NA.

“gun control takes two hands”

Since: Mar 13

outdoors

#2199 Jun 15, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
This sentence makes zero since, not even in the context of the dark ages...
... but that's okay. Neither does 99.99% of your bible...
<quoted text>
Yes. The US Constitution STRICTLY FORBIDS RELIGIOUS RULE.
For a very good reason: religious rule is EVIL. Period.
Witness all the RELIGIOUS POLITICIANS who pretty much speak evil every time they open their mouths.
<quoted text>
It's not that ancient, and it is DIRECTLY TO THE POINT:
When you ugly christians are IN CHARGE?
Atrocity abounds.
<quoted text>
Yet, you ugly Genuine Christholes™ keep trying to REMOVE that separation.
What with your "put the 10 commandments in courthouses" and other nefarious shitstuff.
LOL- That isn't why, but you go ahead and think so, bob. Pretty funny, you making all these assertions but like all your rants, provide not one shred of proof. Me personally, I LIKE the separation of church and state. "Render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's." (That also addresses illegal immigration- i.e. "obey the laws of the land".

“gun control takes two hands”

Since: Mar 13

outdoors

#2200 Jun 15, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
It is you, idiot, who's living the lie.
That's the way with ALL you Genuine Christians™.
You literally persecute people to the point of suicide, because of your ugliness.
Gee bob, feeling persecuted? Please don't do anything rash...other than rant yourself daft-er.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#2201 Jun 15, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong again, sport- I know MANY educated people who are Christian and I'm just one person- try again.
First, I doubt you have any education.

Second, there are some educated christians now because they decided to ignore that doctrine by asking questions. How long until the last bit of superstition is discarded? Not much longer.

“gun control takes two hands”

Since: Mar 13

outdoors

#2202 Jun 15, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
First, I doubt you have any education.
Second, there are some educated christians now because they decided to ignore that doctrine by asking questions. How long until the last bit of superstition is discarded? Not much longer.
You are free to doubt all you wish, ol' buddy. "Second"- I see you're being the usual bobclone and decided to dwell on centuries past- I doubt you people get invited to many social ocassions with a narrow mind as you demonstrate.. You wish that Christianity would die out- that much is obvious. My suggestion is that you learn to beware of Islam- as an infidel, you are a trophy to any True Follower of the pedophile Muhammad.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#2203 Jun 15, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>You are free to doubt all you wish, ol' buddy. "Second"- I see you're being the usual bobclone and decided to dwell on centuries past- I doubt you people get invited to many social ocassions with a narrow mind as you demonstrate.. You wish that Christianity would die out- that much is obvious. My suggestion is that you learn to beware of Islam- as an infidel, you are a trophy to any True Follower of the pedophile Muhammad.
No, I enjoy watching all superstition die out, all of it. As you last remnants of superstitious and delusional people die off, your religions will die as well.

“gun control takes two hands”

Since: Mar 13

outdoors

#2204 Jun 15, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I enjoy watching all superstition die out, all of it. As you last remnants of superstitious and delusional people die off, your religions will die as well.
www.religioustolerance.org/chr _savy.htm The average age people become Christian is nineteen. There are 2.1 billion Christians in the world:www.adherents.com/Religi ons_By_Adherents.html. Hardly dying out.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#2205 Jun 15, 2013
Uncle Sam wrote:
<quoted text>
Right, you Christophobe.
“I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.”~ Gandhi

You epitomize this quote.

Thanks for playing.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#2206 Jun 15, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong again, sport- I know MANY educated people who are Christian and I'm just one person- try again.
There is education and then... there is the swill as taught by Genuine Christians™ which in no way has any connection with actual reality.

Pity.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#2207 Jun 15, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong again, bob. I'm against i-l-l-e-g-a-l immigrants, the #s were just for comparison. PS- I'm NA.
You're "North American"? WTF?

As for your "illiegal" bit?

**ALL** Europeans who immigrated to North America, were illegal, by the standards of the people already living there...

... it's just that you are **selfish** in the extreme. You already **got** yours.

You don't want **anyone****else** to enjoy the freedom of the US.

I find your attitude very common among Genuine Christians™.

One of extreme selfishness...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#2208 Jun 15, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>LOL- That isn't why, but you go ahead and think so, bob. Pretty funny, you making all these assertions but like all your rants, provide not one shred of proof. Me personally, I LIKE the separation of church and state. "Render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's." (That also addresses illegal immigration- i.e. "obey the laws of the land".
More examples of your extreme selfishness.

But no, Jesus was speaking **strictly** of TAXES. Not "obey the law of the land".

I love how you people LIE about what your own book actually says!

It is as if the bible can "mean" anything you WANT-- regardless of what it **actually** says in writing...!

Wow..

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#2209 Jun 15, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>Gee bob, feeling persecuted? Please don't do anything rash...other than rant yourself daft-er.
More hate speech from the selfish christian.

Or, is that last, redundant?

Has there **ever**, in the history of the planet, been a christian who was **not** selfish to the core?

No?

Well... there you go, then.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#2210 Jun 15, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text> www.religioustolerance.org/chr_savy.htm The average age people become Christian is nineteen. There are 2.1 billion Christians in the world:www.adherents.com/Religi ons_By_Adherents.html. Hardly dying out.
What percentage of the total population does 2.1 bn represent?

Contrast that, to the percentage of the total in decades past.

Your percentages are **shrinking**.

And the **rate** at which you are loosing percentages is increasing.

Which is a good thing.

And which is simply more proof, that your god isn't real.

A **real** god? Would have the world in control, by **now**..!!

Is this the case with yours?

Not even close...
Uncle Sam

Beckley, WV

#2211 Jun 15, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
“I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.”~ Gandhi
You epitomize this quote.
Thanks for playing.
What's that got to do with you being a Christophobe? What does Gandhi know? You think by quoting him everyone should bow in reverence to this revelation?

“gun control takes two hands”

Since: Mar 13

outdoors

#2212 Jun 15, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
You're "North American"? WTF?
As for your "illiegal" bit?
**ALL** Europeans who immigrated to North America, were illegal, by the standards of the people already living there...
... it's just that you are **selfish** in the extreme. You already **got** yours.
You don't want **anyone****else** to enjoy the freedom of the US.
I find your attitude very common among Genuine Christians™.
One of extreme selfishness...
Apparently you never tire of being wrong, bob. All ya gotta do is quote the laws or statutes that were broken in days of old. Meanwhile- you know that NA means Native American, Don't you? Hmmmm? Please, continue to rant....

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#2213 Jun 15, 2013
Uncle Sam wrote:
<quoted text>
What's that got to do with you being a Christophobe? What does Gandhi know? You think by quoting him everyone should bow in reverence to this revelation?
What on **earth** is a "christophobe"?

Do you actually think I am **afraid** of you hate-cultists?

I'm not-- the US constitution guarantees that I do not need to be.

More to the point? Your "christ" is just a myth anyway.

There is **no** historical records of him, that date to his alleged lifetime.

None.

Not even your ugly bible; the oldest is a generation too late to be useful in the historical sense. And those are not even any of the so-called "gospels"....! They are from the heretic Paul (who may also be completely fictional-- unknown, really).

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#2214 Jun 15, 2013
Uncle Sam wrote:
<quoted text>
What's that got to do with you being a Christophobe? What does Gandhi know? You think by quoting him everyone should bow in reverence to this revelation?
It is quite clear, however, you **hate** anyone who does not cowtow to your ugly cult.

What else is new?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#2215 Jun 15, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
Meanwhile- you know that NA means Native American, Don't you? Hmmmm? Please, continue to rant....
Why didn't you spell it out the first time?

You lazy or what?

Sheesh, but you godbots are **lazy** people...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#2216 Jun 15, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>Apparently you never tire of being wrong, bob. All ya gotta do is quote the laws or statutes that were broken in days of old.
I see you have no counter-arguments of any kind.

Just more of you, whining and complaining, without saying a worthwhile thing.

Or contributing to the conversation.

But I suppose that goes hand-in-glove with you True Believers™ who haven't contributed to Civilization since your kind was hatched in the evil minds of people wishing to control everyone...

... in all the history of the planet?

Can you name **one** useful or **new** thing/discovery contributed to civilization by you religious types?

One thing?

No?

We thought not...
Lincoln

United States

#2217 Jun 15, 2013
First Amendment
The U.S. Supreme Court recently considered prayer before government meetings, and its decision may affect how Chandler and other cities handle the issue.
Chandler has a longstanding tradition of an invocation before every City Council meeting and study session.
The City Clerk’s Office has a list of local clergy who offer the invocation on an unofficial rotation, City Clerk Marla Paddock said.
“We don’t necessarily do a huge outreach,” but anyone who is interested is welcome to contact the city, Paddock said.
The Supreme Court ruled in 1983 that prayer before government meetings is permissible, but left the specifics open to some interpretation, said Charles Haynes, director of the Religious Freedom Education Project at the Newseum.
It is unclear if legislative prayer was upheld because in the particular case it did not promote a particular religion or because in that case the prayer was non-sectarian, Haynes said.
“This case raises the question of whether it’s also OK if you don’t remain with an all-purpose, non-denominational prayer,” said Paul Bender, professor of law at Arizona State University’s Sandra Day O’Connor College of Law.
“It’s going to be a very important case for what cities can do.”
The Supreme Court agreed in May to take a case involving Greece, N.Y. after a lower court ruled that because the prayers before its meetings were mostly Christian that the town was, in effect, promoting one religion over another.
“I suspect it will clarify the rules of the game,” Haynes said of the Supreme Court’s consideration of the case.“I think it will probably be easier for government bodies to have these prayers without fear of litigation.”
A Republic review of Chandler City Council meeting minutes shows that about 83 percent of the invocations given since 2011 have represented a variety of Christian denominations. That includes the times Council member Kevin Hartke, senior pastor at Trinity Christian Fellowship, filled in and gave the invocation.
Christian churches represent about 73 percent of the places of worship in the city, according to an unofficial list posted on the city’s website.
The remainder of the invocations were presented by representatives of the Baha’i faith (11 percent) and by a a Rabbi (4 percent),and one invocation each given by Paddock and Councilwoman Trinity Donovan, CEO of the Chandler Christian Community Center.
Council members who spoke with the Republic said they support prayer before meetings and touted the diversity of the invocations offered.
“We’ve had a pretty good cross section that’s representative of the city,” Councilman Rick Heumann said.
Chandler’s system is not discriminatory nor preferential, Hartke said.
Councilwoman Nora Ellen said that praying before the council begins to make its decisions is important.
“In my opinion, if anywhere needs prayer, it’s government,” she said.
And while Ellen stopped short of saying the invocations should be only Christian, she said that is what she is most comfortable with.
“When we first started praying in this country it was to the Christian God and I feel like our nation became great because of that,” she said.“I would like prayer to continue that way.”
The diversity of the community is a strength, and Chandler strives to show that it is inclusive, said Councilman Jack Sellers, adding that he has not received any complaints from residents about the invocation.

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