Can there be morality without religion?

Mar 5, 2013 Full story: The Daily Campus 84

Perhaps one of the biggest challenges to atheism today comes from moral philosophers who argue that it is impossible to substantiate a belief in an objective morality without an absolute authority like God to back it up.

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Since: Sep 10

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#62 Mar 9, 2013
A humble msulim wrote:
<quoted text>Allah is not responsible for the sins of man. True Islam is peaceful, not supporting terrorism.
The average christard says the same lie and denial about the Kook Klux Kristians.

Mahound was a pig fcuker and a pedophile.

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#63 Mar 9, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Sex with a 12 year-old girl is child abuse in any age. Ignorant, powerful and self-interested warlords didn't need to care what girls or women felt or thought,(and the character that the "Prophet" Mohammed is based on seems to have been a real character and a war-leader).
Come to think of it, many Muslim societies today don't seem to have progressed far...
http://www.economist.com/blogs/lexington/2009...
Of course western societies are far from perfect, but they are generally more democratic with more firmly established institutions; and the rule of law isn't fundamentalist or "Sharia compliant".
Islam liberates women. The Western elite seeks to enslave the world, but especially Islamic nations. You're in denial if you can't see it happening even today.

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#64 Mar 9, 2013
P_Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
The average christard says the same lie and denial about the Kook Klux Kristians.
Mahound was a pig fcuker and a pedophile.
Mahoud might be, but Mohammed was a righteous prophet of Allah. Why do you try to provoke me, friend?

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#65 Mar 9, 2013
A humble Muslim wrote:
<quoted text>Islam liberates women.
Please list in what way besides the religious belief system.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#66 Mar 9, 2013
A humble msulim wrote:
<quoted text>Islam liberates women. The Western elite seeks to enslave the world, but especially Islamic nations. You're in denial if you can't see it happening even today.
A very Islamic interpretation of events.

You are a mistaken and need to consider other points of view beside the silly "they're all out to get us" Islamic narrative.

Ever heard of following the evidence?
Religion = superstition

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#67 Mar 9, 2013
Then you obviously haven't read many of his comments.
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>I don't see that keeping one's religion to oneself is a 'dodge'. That is the attitude in most European countries - that if someone feels they have a 'spiritual side' that's their business. It shouldn't keep them from discussing religion, if they wish. Whether personal religious beliefs harm us is a good question though as one tends to think and act on one's beliefs. Racist beliefs; or someone who believes gay-sex comparable to bestiality; or atheists are less moral - these beliefs might concern us. Forcing religion on others or failing to uphold one law for all and separation of church and state are of more concern. Sorry, I don't read all comments and I have no idea why you seem to feel some antagonism towards Lincoln.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#68 Mar 9, 2013
Why are you so ashamed of your religious beliefs? That cowardice has made you bitter yes?
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism may be a declining influence in America.
Easter celebrated in public schools.
Public funds buy text books for Roman Catholic schools.
Are you bitter about this?
Peace
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#69 Mar 9, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Then you obviously haven't read many of his comments.
<quoted text>
I do tend to fast-read and mainly the atheist ones.
Lincoln

United States

#70 Mar 9, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Why are you so ashamed of your religious beliefs? That cowardice has made you bitter yes?
<quoted text>
Having a great day!
Hope the same to you
and your flock of followers :-)

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#71 Mar 9, 2013
You can't even prove your child raping prophet existed. Nor can you spell Muslim correctly :))
A humble msulim wrote:
<quoted text>Mahoud might be, but Mohammed was a righteous prophet of Allah. Why do you try to provoke me, friend?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#72 Mar 9, 2013
I notice you ran into some of his insanity on some of the threads and tried to use reason and demonstrable facts with him.

Sadly he is a one trick pony regurgitating band wagon and appeal to authority logical fallacies. You demonstrate to him why these are logical fallacies and he ignores the facts and repeats the exact same logical fallacies.

Pathetic actually.

I had white sheeted him for a long time there.
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>I do tend to fast-read and mainly the atheist ones.
Lincoln

United States

#73 Mar 9, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>I do tend to fast-read and mainly the atheist ones.
seen one of give'me'es Christian evangelical posts you may have read them all.
He protests a bit too much, as evangelicals often do.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#74 Mar 9, 2013

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#75 Mar 10, 2013
Very Cynical Person wrote:
<quoted text>
Please list in what way besides the religious belief system.
There are many ways, but I feel that you aren't really interested. Like most western people, you want to confuse cultural problems with religious dictates. Used correctly, Islam seeks to empower and liberate women, not oppress them.

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#76 Mar 10, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>A very Islamic interpretation of events.
You are a mistaken and need to consider other points of view beside the silly "they're all out to get us" Islamic narrative.
Ever heard of following the evidence?
Religion = superstition
There are always two sides to every story, I'll give you that. They, the Western power-brokers, are out to get everyone, you and me both. It's not an Islamic version of events, it's an objective view. I see beyond the messages and words of corporations and politicians to the bigger picture.

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#77 Mar 10, 2013
A humble msulim wrote:
<quoted text>There are many ways, but I feel that you aren't really interested. Like most western people, you want to confuse cultural problems with religious dictates. Used correctly, Islam seeks to empower and liberate women, not oppress them.
Still in what way?

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#78 Mar 10, 2013
A humble msulim wrote:
<quoted text>There are many ways, but I feel that you aren't really interested. Like most western people, you want to confuse cultural problems with religious dictates. Used correctly, Islam seeks to empower and liberate women, not oppress them.
I am do want to know. Especially the last comment of yours “Islam seeks to empower and liberate women, not oppress them”. With that statement I am now even more curious about how.

Ignore religious dictates, I want know without the religious belief how are women being empowered and equal. Cultural is important. Human rights are important. Being treated as human is important.

So I ask with honesty how in what way?

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#79 Mar 10, 2013
Sorry fat fingers. The above should have been "I really do want to know".
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#80 Mar 10, 2013
A humble msulim wrote:
<quoted text>...They, the Western power-brokers, are out to get everyone, you and me both. It's not an Islamic version of events, it's an objective view.
That's pure nonsense.
A humble msulim wrote:
<quoted text>
I see beyond the messages and words ... to the bigger picture.
Yes, people like you never listen to what people actually say. They always 'see beyond'.
Same old same old.

Religion = superstition
It's divisive too.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#81 Mar 10, 2013
A humble msulim wrote:
There is no morality without Allah.
Yes there is b

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