Can there be morality without religion?

Mar 5, 2013 Full story: The Daily Campus 84

Perhaps one of the biggest challenges to atheism today comes from moral philosophers who argue that it is impossible to substantiate a belief in an objective morality without an absolute authority like God to back it up.

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bohart

Newport, TN

#21 Mar 7, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Yes you are.
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Sorry You must be mistaking me for your mother.
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#22 Mar 7, 2013
Are you really a christian?
bohart wrote:
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Sorry You must be mistaking me for your mother.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#23 Mar 7, 2013
There is no morality without Allah.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#25 Mar 8, 2013
A humble msulim wrote:
There is no morality without Allah.
So:-
1. Stoning young girls to death is moral.
2. Female genital mutilation is moral.
3. Thighing is moral.
4. Flying planes into buildings is moral.
5. Suicide bombers are moral.

You islamic godbots keep telling how great islam yet you can not or will not explain the above.

Since: Sep 10

Earth

#26 Mar 8, 2013
A humble msulim wrote:
There is no morality without Allah.
You belong to a pedophile ring, and you call that moral?

Sahih Bukhari vol. 7, 88:

"The prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old."
Amused

Bridgewater, MA

#27 Mar 8, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Are you really a christian?
<quoted text>
Of course he is. Arrogant, willfully ignorant and hateful. What else could he be?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#28 Mar 8, 2013
Love your screen name!

Bwahahahahahahhahahaha!
A humble msulim wrote:
There is no morality without Allah.

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#29 Mar 8, 2013
Psssst! Shhhhh! OK... Lets start a rumour that if you die peacefully in your sleep, Allah gives you 144 virgins. See if it works...
A humble msulim wrote:
There is no morality without Allah.
Lincoln

United States

#30 Mar 8, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
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So:-
1. Stoning young girls to death is moral.
2. Female genital mutilation is moral.
3. Thighing is moral.
4. Flying planes into buildings is moral.
5. Suicide bombers are moral.
You islamic godbots keep telling how great islam yet you can not or will not explain the above.
"godbots"a term but not used by the educated?
Atheists seem on the defensive?
Republican and Democratic political parties avoid nominating atheists.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#31 Mar 8, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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"godbots"a term but not used by the educated?
Atheists seem on the defensive?
Republican and Democratic political parties avoid nominating atheists.
Perhaps they avoid nominating atheists due to prejudice and ignorance.

I don't know if atheists are especially defensive, but there is still prejudice against atheists in the USA...
http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/ghwbush.h...
(Still no apology/withdrawal and Bush43 hasn't disassociated himself from Dad's comment, as far as I'm aware)

Polls seem to indicate only 54% of USAmericans would vote for an atheist. That doesn't help the USA or its image internationally.

The USA eventually beat prejudice against women, blacks and (largely) gays. Hurry up with recognition of the fact that people aren't more or less moral according to their religious beliefs or lack of any.
Lincoln

United States

#32 Mar 8, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps they avoid nominating atheists due to prejudice and ignorance.
I don't know if atheists are especially defensive, but there is still prejudice against atheists in the USA...
http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/ghwbush.h...
(Still no apology/withdrawal and Bush43 hasn't disassociated himself from Dad's comment, as far as I'm aware)
Polls seem to indicate only 54% of USAmericans would vote for an atheist. That doesn't help the USA or its image internationally.
The USA eventually beat prejudice against women, blacks and (largely) gays. Hurry up with recognition of the fact that people aren't more or less moral according to their religious beliefs or lack of any.
"Polls seem to indicate only 54%........."
Which poll?

There is prejudice against atheists which seems wrong.
People slinging "god-bot" most likely do not further the cause ?
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#33 Mar 8, 2013
A muslim?

;)
Amused wrote:
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Of course he is. Arrogant, willfully ignorant and hateful. What else could he be?
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#34 Mar 8, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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"Polls seem to indicate only 54%........."
Which poll?
http://www.gallup.com/poll/155285/atheists-mu...
Lincoln wrote:
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There is prejudice against atheists which seems wrong.
People slinging "god-bot" most likely do not further the cause ?
Yes, but I don't think atheists' behavior is worse than religionists, or vice versa.

I think it is a matter of personality and the nature of the language to which one responds. Maybe I've called used the term at some point.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php...
Topix is prone to bad manners and some people's behavior on the web may be worse than it would be face to face. Sometimes it's a matter of mood. Sometimes the term godbot may refer to the idea of people being part of a following or flock,(as opposed to genuinely free-thinking); or is meant to imply a failure on the part of religionists to think for themselves.

Arguably, people show a relative lack of respect for each other nowadays, especially in virtual environments; or 'unnatural environments' like behind the wheel of a car.

(After all that, I'm bet you're sorry you mentioned 'godbot'!:-)

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#35 Mar 8, 2013
bohart wrote:
Humans are not naturally moral beings.No one has to teach a child how to lie, they do it instinctively. They have to be taught to tell the truth, not to steal, etc.,etc.Morality must be taught, by religion or some other entity, but it must be learned, you are not born with it.
Yes, children do have to learn how to lie, they learn it from the many lies parents tell them, like the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, and ... Jesus.
Lincoln

United States

#36 Mar 8, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Yes, children do have to learn how to lie, they learn it from the many lies parents tell them, like the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, and ... Jesus.
Are these lies or part of tradition in American Culture?
Adding Jesus is a political statement or religious?

Peace

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#37 Mar 8, 2013
A humble msulim wrote:
There is no morality without Allah.
This coming from an amoral person?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#38 Mar 8, 2013
Here we see devout Christian use his religious morals to torture, kill and feed his Girlfriend to his dog!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22901...

Fear not though for he says he is leaving it all in God's hands now! Awwww!

http://www.lifenews.com/2010/12/07/int-1709/

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#39 Mar 8, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Are these lies or part of tradition in American Culture?
Adding Jesus is a political statement or religious?
Peace
Tradition doesn't have to include lies, they are lies because these are mythical things that are told to be real to children. That makes them lies.
Lincoln

United States

#40 Mar 8, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Here we see devout Christian use his religious morals to torture, kill and feed his Girlfriend to his dog!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22901...
Fear not though for he says he is leaving it all in God's hands now! Awwww!
http://www.lifenews.com/2010/12/07/int -
1709/
Generalization from one event?
Lincoln

United States

#41 Mar 8, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Tradition doesn't have to include lies, they are lies because these are mythical things that are told to be real to children. That makes them lies.
Religion may be private among believers and among families of non believers.
Freedom

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