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“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

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Apr 3, 2013
 
Amused wrote:
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Maybe that's a good thing. The US ranks poorly in education but quite high in drug use, despite years of a "war on drugs". Perhaps a "War on Education" is just what we need to turn those stats around.
Perhaps so.

But drugs are very much like religion: the promises given to induce someone to partake of either one, are nebulous, pie-in-the-sky (literally) and grand.

And the effort to partake of either is exactly the opposite of the promises: dirt simple, very easy and requiring nearly zero effort to achieve.

In short? Getting addicted to illegal drugs and getting deeply tangled in religion, are perfect for someone who want's instant gratification with minimal effort.

Education, on the flip side? Education requires ... work. Sometimes rather a lot of work-- take the scientific theory of evolution in it's current form: it takes quite a bit of basic foundational material, just to begin to understand the simplest of understanding.

And that represents quite a bit of a mental workout.

If a person is lazy? If they have been trained to always take the instant-gratification route?

They just won't get why scientific evolution is reasonable-- they lack the fundamental science to grasp the essential meanings of >>why<< evolution is both fact and theory.

It is just not really possible to justify scientific evolution in 30 second sound-bites and single-syllable words....

... but. You >>can<< sell the dubious "rewards" of both religion and of illegal drugs in 30 seconds or less-- if the listener isn't too critical of the message ...

Is there a correlation? I think so..
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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Perhaps so.
But drugs are very much like religion: the promises given to induce someone to partake of either one, are nebulous, pie-in-the-sky (literally) and grand.
And the effort to partake of either is exactly the opposite of the promises: dirt simple, very easy and requiring nearly zero effort to achieve.
In short? Getting addicted to illegal drugs and getting deeply tangled in religion, are perfect for someone who want's instant gratification with minimal effort.
Education, on the flip side? Education requires ... work. Sometimes rather a lot of work-- take the scientific theory of evolution in it's current form: it takes quite a bit of basic foundational material, just to begin to understand the simplest of understanding.
And that represents quite a bit of a mental workout.
If a person is lazy? If they have been trained to always take the instant-gratification route?
They just won't get why scientific evolution is reasonable-- they lack the fundamental science to grasp the essential meanings of >>why<< evolution is both fact and theory.
It is just not really possible to justify scientific evolution in 30 second sound-bites and single-syllable words....
... but. You >>can<< sell the dubious "rewards" of both religion and of illegal drugs in 30 seconds or less-- if the listener isn't too critical of the message ...
Is there a correlation? I think so..
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Apr 3, 2013
 
Great points man spot on! As you say education is hard work and many lazy Americans sadly chose the easy way out in saying rub a dub dub dub Jesus.

Interesting that with higher IQ comes a lower % of believing in gods.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps so.

But drugs are very much like religion: the promises given to induce someone to partake of either one, are nebulous, pie-in-the-sky (literally) and grand.

And the effort to partake of either is exactly the opposite of the promises: dirt simple, very easy and requiring nearly zero effort to achieve.

In short? Getting addicted to illegal drugs and getting deeply tangled in religion, are perfect for someone who want's instant gratification with minimal effort.

Education, on the flip side? Education requires ... work. Sometimes rather a lot of work-- take the scientific theory of evolution in it's current form: it takes quite a bit of basic foundational material, just to begin to understand the simplest of understanding.

And that represents quite a bit of a mental workout.

If a person is lazy? If they have been trained to always take the instant-gratification route?

They just won't get why scientific evolution is reasonable-- they lack the fundamental science to grasp the essential meanings of >>why<< evolution is both fact and theory.

It is just not really possible to justify scientific evolution in 30 second sound-bites and single-syllable words....

... but. You >>can<< sell the dubious "rewards" of both religion and of illegal drugs in 30 seconds or less-- if the listener isn't too critical of the message ...

Is there a correlation? I think so..

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Apr 3, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
Great points man spot on! As you say education is hard work and many lazy Americans sadly chose the easy way out in saying rub a dub dub dub Jesus.

Interesting that with higher IQ comes a lower % of believing in gods.
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I think that goes hand-in-glove: higher IQ folk tend to find learning a welcome activity.

And once a person gets in the habit of seeking knowledge, sooner than later, he or she discovers that religion is bullshyt.

It rather goes with the territory: religion is the opposite of knowledge after all.
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Apr 4, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
Great points man spot on! As you say education is hard work and many lazy Americans sadly chose the easy way out in saying rub a dub dub dub Jesus.
Interesting that with higher IQ comes a lower % of believing in gods.
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"...rub a dub dub dub Jesus...." is something he posts, but most likely, can Not say at work,in public or around adults

Thread is his atheist restroom ... so to speak :-)

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Apr 4, 2013
 
I caught a news article from this past Easter that says 13% less people believe in the redirection of Jesus!

No wonder the religious faithful are going after us non believers! The walls are crumbling around their ears.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>I think that goes hand-in-glove: higher IQ folk tend to find learning a welcome activity.

And once a person gets in the habit of seeking knowledge, sooner than later, he or she discovers that religion is bullshyt.

It rather goes with the territory: religion is the opposite of knowledge after all.

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I caught a news article from this past Easter that says 13% less people believe in the redirection of Jesus!
No wonder the religious faithful are going after us non believers! The walls are crumbling around their ears.
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Well, the more the actual contents of the bible gets out there?

The less that reasonable people will accept it as a valid source of morality.

It kinda stands to reason.

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Oh as time goes on the % of suckers goes down. 13% less buying the resurrection is huge as it's the key component of Christianity!

I love it!

Now let's smile as they say how we are such a minority with no influence, care for a foreclosed church deed as a drink coaster?
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Well, the more the actual contents of the bible gets out there?

The less that reasonable people will accept it as a valid source of morality.

It kinda stands to reason.

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Givemeliberty wrote:
Oh as time goes on the % of suckers goes down. 13% less buying the resurrection is huge as it's the key component of Christianity!
I love it!
Now let's smile as they say how we are such a minority with no influence, care for a foreclosed church deed as a drink coaster?
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There are no less than 5 abandoned churches within a stones' throw of my front porch--maybe more.

Of the remaining? None are doing well; they all have obvious signs of neglect of their building(s), and on a Sunday morning, when I'm on my way to brunch? Their parking lots aren't even 1/2 full.

Yes-- the death-knell for these cults is sounding in the distance.

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Apr 4, 2013
 
Such happy news :) the republican slime weep as we speak :)
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>There are no less than 5 abandoned churches within a stones' throw of my front porch--maybe more.

Of the remaining? None are doing well; they all have obvious signs of neglect of their building(s), and on a Sunday morning, when I'm on my way to brunch? Their parking lots aren't even 1/2 full.

Yes-- the death-knell for these cults is sounding in the distance.

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