Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#341 Mar 31, 2013
Did you see that poor kid for Louisville break his leg during the game tonight? Bone sticking out!

People are organizing all these pray ins and such for him.

Meanwhile properly trained medical staff stabilized him and rushed him to the hospital for proper care and treatment. One of those workers are doing more than all the people praying. How about instead of praying all those believers put theirs hands together on some money to actually assist this kid and his poor family. You know actually do something?
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>My thoughts exactly.

;D

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#342 Apr 1, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Did you see that poor kid for Louisville break his leg during the game tonight? Bone sticking out!
People are organizing all these pray ins and such for him.
Meanwhile properly trained medical staff stabilized him and rushed him to the hospital for proper care and treatment. One of those workers are doing more than all the people praying. How about instead of praying all those believers put theirs hands together on some money to actually assist this kid and his poor family. You know actually do something?
<quoted text>
Oh, they wouldn't lift a hand to actually... >>help<< someone, without that person first gets a huge dollop of their religious swill...

... and a strong hint that the person ought to be donating in the collection plate too.

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Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#343 Apr 1, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Don't forget Jules Verne :)
<quoted text>
Yep :)

Since: Mar 11

United States

#344 Apr 1, 2013
I once overheard a true believer in a restaurant say that the starving children in Ethiopia needed Jesus more than food!

WTF!
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, they wouldn't lift a hand to actually... >>help<< someone, without that person first gets a huge dollop of their religious swill...

... and a strong hint that the person ought to be donating in the collection plate too.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#345 Apr 1, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
I once overheard a true believer in a restaurant say that the starving children in Ethiopia needed Jesus more than food!
WTF!
<quoted text>
Uggg... that's one ugly religion, that's what that is.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#346 Apr 2, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
I once overheard a true believer in a restaurant say that the starving children in Ethiopia needed Jesus more than food!
WTF!
<quoted text>
The unthinking b*stards...should be a crime...

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#347 Apr 2, 2013
I know I mean could you imagine having starving children in front of you and instead if giving them food read them passages from the fcking bible?!!
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>The unthinking b*stards...should be a crime...

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Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#348 Apr 2, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
I know I mean could you imagine having starving children in front of you and instead if giving them food read them passages from the fcking bible?!!
<quoted text>
That is basically the way every faith based soup kitchen in the US operates. It's true that most of the clients aren't starving, but they are mostly used to missing a few meals.

I see the perpetrators of this insanity as "monsters", and I can't imagine not decking the S.O.B. who would make an actual "dying from starvation" human being wait through a sermon or a prayer.

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Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#349 Apr 2, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Did you see that poor kid for Louisville break his leg during the game tonight? Bone sticking out!
People are organizing all these pray ins and such for him.
Meanwhile properly trained medical staff stabilized him and rushed him to the hospital for proper care and treatment. One of those workers are doing more than all the people praying. How about instead of praying all those believers put theirs hands together on some money to actually assist this kid and his poor family. You know actually do something?
<quoted text>
I didn't see it, but I know the religitards, they are lined up to get their two cents worth of credit, from those they wish to impress. They know, and we know, that prayer does not work, but the pretense serves as well as does even the announcement that they are praying. It's each others asses they kiss, while every one of them plays at belief.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#350 Apr 2, 2013
They have had people drop dead from starvation in Africa waiting hours for food while some preacher man ranted about Jesus. It does make you wanna jack smack some people doesn't it?
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>That is basically the way every faith based soup kitchen in the US operates. It's true that most of the clients aren't starving, but they are mostly used to missing a few meals.

I see the perpetrators of this insanity as "monsters", and I can't imagine not decking the S.O.B. who would make an actual "dying from starvation" human being wait through a sermon or a prayer.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#351 Apr 2, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Not really, and we are just as apt to quote Lazarus Long or Mark Twain, as we are the buybull. I personally have read all three of these, but have yet to get around to Dawkins.
Dawkins has a tendency to overstate his case. His books generally start out with some very good insights and then he pushes them just a bit too far.'The Selfish Gene' is a good example. he made a very good case for evolution and its mechanisms and then degenerated when he attempted to apply that insight to physics. His idea of a 'meme' is good.

I much prefer Daniel Dennett or Stephen Weinberg.

That said, Twain was very good at poking at the hypocrisies of his time. Lazarus Long (aka Heinlein) had a few good things to say, but was ultimately a fictional character dreamed up to make money.

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Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#352 Apr 2, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't see it, but I know the religitards, they are lined up to get their two cents worth of credit, from those they wish to impress. They know, and we know, that prayer does not work, but the pretense serves as well as does even the announcement that they are praying. It's each others asses they kiss, while every one of them plays at belief.
Prayer - A religious person's way of claiming "they helped" without actually having to do anything

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#353 Apr 2, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
They have had people drop dead from starvation in Africa waiting hours for food while some preacher man ranted about Jesus. It does make you wanna jack smack some people doesn't it?
<quoted text>
Yes. Yes it does.

I do try to quell those feelings though-- it's unbecoming of a sentient being.

But yeah... it does...

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#354 Apr 2, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
Dawkins has a tendency to overstate his case. His books generally start out with some very good insights and then he pushes them just a bit too far.'The Selfish Gene' is a good example. he made a very good case for evolution and its mechanisms and then degenerated when he attempted to apply that insight to physics. His idea of a 'meme' is good.
I much prefer Daniel Dennett or Stephen Weinberg.
That said, Twain was very good at poking at the hypocrisies of his time. Lazarus Long (aka Heinlein) had a few good things to say, but was ultimately a fictional character dreamed up to make money.
RE: Lazarus character. I always saw him as a mouth-piece for Heinlein's own views.

As far as I can tell from reading about his real-world life (Heinlein's-- I never met him) he pretty much tried to live as Lazarus Long would have, had he been real.

Of course Heinlein wasn't nearly as physically-capable as Long; Heinlein suffered from the effects of untreated TB for too long, which hurt his health, or so I read. It was eventually discovered and treated, but that washed him out of the Navy anyway. In fact, his being without a job caused him to turn to writing-- he grew up being a fan of science fiction pulp magazines, and concluded it couldn't be all that hard to write. For him? It wasn't...

:)

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#355 Apr 2, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Prayer - A religious person's way of claiming "they helped" without actually having to do anything
Yep.

An ultimate expression of both laziness and egotism; they can get the "feel good" without having to do anything.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#356 Apr 2, 2013
Indeed on many of his writings he was by far more prophetic than anything in the bible. And all of it he came up with through observable science and his imagination.

Makes me wanna go crack open one of his masterpieces :)
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Yep :)

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#357 Apr 2, 2013
Yes we are better than that.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Yes. Yes it does.

I do try to quell those feelings though-- it's unbecoming of a sentient being.

But yeah... it does...

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#358 Apr 2, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep.
An ultimate expression of both laziness and egotism; they can get the "feel good" without having to do anything.
it is a mental illness after all.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#359 Apr 3, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
it is a mental illness after all.
True. A completely curable one: quality education.

But, alas, the ReThugs are hell-bent-for-leather trying to eliminate all federal $$ for education...

... you get one guess as to why...
Amused

Bridgewater, MA

#360 Apr 3, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
True. A completely curable one: quality education.
But, alas, the ReThugs are hell-bent-for-leather trying to eliminate all federal $$ for education...
... you get one guess as to why...
Maybe that's a good thing. The US ranks poorly in education but quite high in drug use, despite years of a "war on drugs". Perhaps a "War on Education" is just what we need to turn those stats around.

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