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CunningLinguist

Orlando, FL

#185 Aug 26, 2014
My preference for coffee has always been Blue Mountain from private growers in Jamaica.

Order online, ship to you in two days.
CunningLinguist

Orlando, FL

#186 Aug 26, 2014
religionislies wrote:
<quoted text>
Look above as Patrick tries to spam-cover his old posts and embarrassment. Press the Prev button to see how he runs!
Why?

He tries really hard to be literate, be kind rewind!
religionislies

London, UK

#187 Aug 26, 2014
Patrick wrote:
<quoted text>
Post your positive stuff on your ideas and enjoy life?
Alas we are not destined to all agree with you?
Creationist with no evidence of god, go away.
Thinking

York, UK

#188 Aug 27, 2014
You're not destined to agree with yourself.

First you spam "Evolution doesn't prove Atheism".

Then you spam the opposite.

You're a joke, Lincock. Albeit one poorly told.
Patrick wrote:
<quoted text>
Post your positive stuff on your ideas and enjoy life?
Alas we are not destined to all agree with you?
Thinking

York, UK

#189 Aug 27, 2014
The link between tooth decay and heart disease is quite scary...

Now I've said that, I also have to post the following because of the bigotry of some Americans.

http://www.economist.com/node/15060097
NightSerf wrote:
According the the CDC, Parkinson's Disease is less common among coffee drinkers than in the general population. Research at the Goldman School of Dentistry at Boston University indicated that coffee drinking is protective against periodontal disease. On the other hand, another study showed that coffee consumption shortens telomeres and life expectancy along with it, but drinking alcohol lengthens both.
So drink your coffee with a beer chaser?
Patrick

United States

#190 Aug 27, 2014
Thinking wrote:
You're not destined to agree with yourself.
First you spam "Evolution doesn't prove Atheism".
Then you spam the opposite.
You're a joke, Lincock. Albeit one poorly told.
<quoted text>
Relax..You are Always in charge of the thread.:-)
Evolution, Science, Belief all discussed well over coffee with good friends .

My cup of coffee is missing you

Lonely is my cup of coffee
My night
o'er sky out
is missing you
Beyond the all stars
in gloom
my night
My morning cup
of coffee
is missing you
Beyond the all sweetness
in sugar
In cream
It is not groom
in My cup of coffee
in My words
in rhyme
Without you
Your smile
They are groan
So the coffee
dark
in My cup
in my night
And they all of mist
calling
you
Patrick

London, UK

#191 Aug 28, 2014
Patrick wrote:
<quoted text>
Relax..You are Always in charge of the thread.:-)
Evolution, Science, Belief all discussed well over coffee with good friends .
My cup of coffee is missing you
Lonely is my cup of coffee
My night
o'er sky out
is missing you
Beyond the all stars
in gloom
my night
My morning cup
of coffee
is missing you
Beyond the all sweetness
in sugar
In cream
It is not groom
in My cup of coffee
in My words
in rhyme
Without you
Your smile
They are groan
So the coffee
dark
in My cup
in my night
And they all of mist
calling
you
There's no evidence of god. I'm an Atheist now, sorry for trying to spam the Atheism forum, it was wrong of me to do that.

I usually write bad poetry or post some right wing news, to cover up posts from other Atheists who have shown me to be wrong.

But my ego is too large to accept that I am wrong sometimes, and so I post poetry or spam, because I have no conscience.

But now I realise how ignorant that is and I'm here to say you're right Atheists.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#192 Sep 10, 2014
Fisher of Men wrote:
Do you know what the following 20 notable people have in common?
Joy Davidman
Tamsin Greig
...
They’re all former atheist who have converted to Christianity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts...
My Point? There’s no such thing as an atheist.
Now that you know, why don’t you take a good serious look at Christianity. God hasn't forgotten you. He's known you your whole life. He created you with purpose!
76 atheists who converted to christianity over multiple centuries? Not impressive. More people than that wake up from the fantasy and become atheists in any given couple of hours. Most don't shout it from the roof tops because christians cannot stand apostates or other atheists, and engage in all sorts of petty and not so petty harassment of those who dare point out that the emperor has no clothes.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#193 Sep 10, 2014
Fisher of Men wrote:
If Christianity were true, would you become a Christian?
Religion is like a tree, from it's roots born of fear of the unknown (which may have begun even before Druidism) it slowly spread it's limbs in many directions. Christainity is merely a branch on that huge tree. It is no more valid than any other branch, and if it were, then Mitt Romney's magic underwear religion, would be no less true than is Paganism, Islam, Satanism, or the Vodun(Voodoo), or even the Methodists.

They all are imperfect, from imperfect gods, with imperfect holy tomes. One contradiction after another invalidates any all knowing, all powerful god. What it does do, is empowers the liaisons to the gods. You are the sustenance, they glean their livings from .......... you and your wallet.
Patrick

United States

#195 Sep 10, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Religion is like a tree, from it's roots born of fear of the unknown (which may have begun even before Druidism) it slowly spread it's limbs in many directions. Christainity is merely a branch on that huge tree. It is no more valid than any other branch, and if it were, then Mitt Romney's magic underwear religion, would be no less true than is Paganism, Islam, Satanism, or the Vodun(Voodoo), or even the Methodists.
They all are imperfect, from imperfect gods, with imperfect holy tomes. One contradiction after another invalidates any all knowing, all powerful god. What it does do, is empowers the liaisons to the gods. You are the sustenance, they glean their livings from .......... you and your wallet.
You most likely do damage to whichever opinions you are trying to expound with
"Mitt Romney's
magic underwear" :-)

Peace and coffee
Thinking

Sturminster Newton, UK

#196 Sep 10, 2014
I used to work with a mormon. I visited his house and his kids were all wearing that retarded bollocks.

I would expect an all powerful god would know who to protect without them having to wear gandalf's pants.
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Religion is like a tree, from it's roots born of fear of the unknown (which may have begun even before Druidism) it slowly spread it's limbs in many directions. Christainity is merely a branch on that huge tree. It is no more valid than any other branch, and if it were, then Mitt Romney's magic underwear religion, would be no less true than is Paganism, Islam, Satanism, or the Vodun(Voodoo), or even the Methodists.
They all are imperfect, from imperfect gods, with imperfect holy tomes. One contradiction after another invalidates any all knowing, all powerful god. What it does do, is empowers the liaisons to the gods. You are the sustenance, they glean their livings from .......... you and your wallet.

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#197 Sep 10, 2014
Gillette wrote:
<quoted text>
I think we're saying F--- your brutal Torturer God Jesus and taking our chances with the really good, ethical people, who apparently are only good enough for eternal burning.
What , we're saying , " If Christianity is true ? " ..

You are allowing yourself to be deceived , if you don't turn away from Sin ...Satan is holding your leash ...

If , you don't break free from that ...he ...will , keep you for ever ..

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#198 Sep 10, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Religion is like a tree, from it's roots born of fear
..sorry for the redaction...

I think I owe you a ' thanks ' for my Id picture ...and ,to " Bob of Quantum-Faith" for making it accessible ..?..?..

I submit , Atheist are the cowards ....which , is more frightening ..?

01 ) oblivion
02) judgement

We're all grown ups ..you choose for yourself ..

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#199 Sep 10, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Religion is like a tree, from it's roots born of fear of the unknown (which may have begun even before Druidism) it slowly spread it's limbs in many directions. Christainity is merely a branch on that huge tree. It is no more valid than any other branch, and if it were, then Mitt Romney's magic underwear religion, would be no less true than is Paganism, Islam, Satanism, or the Vodun(Voodoo), or even the Methodists.
They all are imperfect, from imperfect gods, with imperfect holy tomes. One contradiction after another invalidates any all knowing, all powerful god. What it does do, is empowers the liaisons to the gods. You are the sustenance, they glean their livings from .......... you and your wallet.
...but , "Reason" there isn't a society on this Earth that doesn't believe in the Supernatural ..'that ' tribe ..In S. America you all want to espouse ...they , believe in evil spirits ..

The Marxist were the only ' atheists' society ...and , that , society ....yeah...not, really great ..kinda blood thirsty ..NOT COOL ..!

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#200 Sep 10, 2014
Patrick wrote:
<quoted text>
You most likely do damage to whichever opinions you are trying to expound with
"Mitt Romney's
magic underwear" :-)
Peace and coffee
It is absolute truth, and it's a truth that Christainity would prefer not to look closely at. Imagine if he were president, and the supply of magic underwear was eliminated. The truth is always capable of damaging superstitious bullshit.
Patrick n Angela

United States

#201 Sep 11, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>It is absolute truth, and it's a truth that Christainity would prefer not to look closely at. Imagine if he were president, and the supply of magic underwear was eliminated. The truth is always capable of damaging superstitious bullshit.
Definitely not for Romney
Peace

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#202 Sep 11, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>It is absolute truth, and it's a truth that Christainity would prefer not to look closely at. Imagine if he were president, and the supply of magic underwear was eliminated. The truth is always capable of damaging superstitious bullshit.
...Well , I happen to be ' republican '

and , I think ...President Obama ..is wrong...

ISIL , and Syria ...We , should just ...let it burn ...
Thinking

Sturminster Newton, UK

#203 Sep 12, 2014
We let Syria burn. ISIL flourished.
number four wrote:
<quoted text>...Well , I happen to be ' republican '
and , I think ...President Obama ..is wrong...
ISIL , and Syria ...We , should just ...let it burn ...

Since: Aug 14

Location hidden

#204 Sep 12, 2014
13Sep14.....Question: "Why does God allow evil?"
Answer: The Bible describes God as holy (Isaiah 6:3), righteous (Psalm 7:11), just (Deuteronomy 32:4), and sovereign (Daniel 4:17-25). These attributes tell us the following about God:(1) God is capable of preventing evil, and (2) God desires to rid the universe of evil. So, if both of these are true, why does God allow evil? If God has the power to prevent evil and desires to prevent evil, why does He still allow evil? Perhaps a practical way to look at this question would be to consider some alternative ways people might have God run the world:
1) God could change everyone’s personality so that they cannot sin. This would also mean that we would not have a free will. We would not be able to choose right or wrong because we would be “programmed” to only do right. Had God chosen to do this, there would be no meaningful relationships between Him and His creation.
Instead, God made Adam and Eve innocent but with the ability to choose good or evil. Because of this, they could respond to His love and trust Him or choose to disobey. They chose to disobey. Because we live in a real world where we can choose our actions but not their consequences, their sin affected those who came after them (us). Similarly, our decisions to sin have an impact on us and those around us and those who will come after us.
2) God could compensate for people’s evil actions through supernatural intervention 100 percent of the time.
While this solution sounds attractive, it would lose its attractiveness as soon as God’s intervention infringed on something we wanted to do. We want God to prevent horribly evil actions, but we are willing to let “lesser-evil” actions slide—not realizing that those “lesser-evil” actions are what usually lead to the “greater-evil” actions. Should God only stop actual sexual affairs, or should He also block our access to pornography or end any inappropriate, but not yet sexual, relationships? Should God stop “true” thieves, or should He also stop us from cheating on our taxes? Should God only stop murder, or should He also stop the “lesser-evil” actions done to people that lead them to commit murder? Should God only stop acts of terrorism, or should He also stop the indoctrination that transformed a person into a terrorist?
3) Another choice would be for God to judge and remove those who choose to commit evil acts. The problem with this possibility is that there would be no one left, for God would have to remove us all. We all sin and commit evil acts (Romans 3:23; Ecclesiastes 7:20; 1 John 1:8). While some people are more evil than others, where would God draw the line? Ultimately, all evil causes harm to others.
Instead of these options, God has chosen to create a “real” world in which real choices have real consequences. In this real world of ours, our actions affect others. Because of Adam’s choice to sin, the world now lives under the curse, and we are all born with a sin nature (Romans 5:12). There will one day come a time when God will judge the sin in this world and make all things new, but He is purposely “delaying” in order to allow more time for people to repent so that He will not need to condemn them (2 Peter 3:9). Until then, He IS concerned about evil. When He created the Old Testament laws, the goal was to discourage and punish evil. He judges nations and rulers who disregard justice and pursue evil. Likewise, in the New Testament, God states that it is the government’s responsibility to provide justice in order to protect the innocent from evil (Romans 13). He also promises severe consequences for those who commit evil acts, especially against the "innocent" (Mark 9:36-42).
Rather than blaming God and questioning God on why He does not prevent all evil, we should be about the business of proclaiming the cure for evil and its consequences—Jesus Christ!
Tuco Blondie
Thinking

Sturminster Newton, UK

#205 Sep 15, 2014
According to the bible, Adam didn't choose to sin, because he didn't know what right and wrong was before eating from the tree of knowledge.

Maybe Adam was imperfectly designed and/or entrapped. But Adam didn't sin. god set him up.
Tuco Blondie wrote:
13Sep14.....Question: "Why does God allow evil?"
Answer: The Bible describes God as holy (Isaiah 6:3), righteous (Psalm 7:11), just (Deuteronomy 32:4), and sovereign (Daniel 4:17-25). These attributes tell us the following about God:(1) God is capable of preventing evil, and (2) God desires to rid the universe of evil. So, if both of these are true, why does God allow evil? If God has the power to prevent evil and desires to prevent evil, why does He still allow evil? Perhaps a practical way to look at this question would be to consider some alternative ways people might have God run the world:
1) God could change everyone’s personality so that they cannot sin. This would also mean that we would not have a free will. We would not be able to choose right or wrong because we would be “programmed” to only do right. Had God chosen to do this, there would be no meaningful relationships between Him and His creation.
Instead, God made Adam and Eve innocent but with the ability to choose good or evil. Because of this, they could respond to His love and trust Him or choose to disobey. They chose to disobey. Because we live in a real world where we can choose our actions but not their consequences, their sin affected those who came after them (us). Similarly, our decisions to sin have an impact on us and those around us and those who will come after us.
2) God could compensate for people’s evil actions through supernatural intervention 100 percent of the time.
While this solution sounds attractive, it would lose its attractiveness as soon as God’s intervention infringed on something we wanted to do. We want God to prevent horribly evil actions, but we are willing to let “lesser-evil” actions slide—not realizing that those “lesser-evil” actions are what usually lead to the “greater-evil” actions. Should God only stop actual sexual affairs, or should He also block our access to pornography or end any inappropriate, but not yet sexual, relationships? Should God stop “true” thieves, or should He also stop us from cheating on our taxes? Should God only stop murder, or should He also stop the “lesser-evil” actions done to people that lead them to commit murder? Should God only stop acts of terrorism, or should He also stop the indoctrination that transformed a person into a terrorist?
3) Another choice would be for God to judge and remove those who choose to commit evil acts. The problem with this possibility is that there would be no one left, for God would have to remove us all. We all sin and commit evil acts (Romans 3:23; Ecclesiastes 7:20; 1 John 1:8). While some people are more evil than others, where would God draw the line? Ultimately, all evil causes harm to others.
Instead of these options, God has chosen to create a “real” world in which real choices have real consequences. In this real world of ours, our actions affect others. Because of Adam’s choice to sin, the world now lives under the curse, and we are all born with a sin nature (Romans 5:12). There will one day come a time when God will judge the sin in this world and make all things new, but He is purposely “delaying” in order to allow more time for people to repent so that He will not need to condemn them (2 Peter 3:9). Until then, He IS concerned about evil. When He created the Old Testament laws, the goal was to discourage and punish evil. He judges nations and rulers who disregard justice and pursue evil. Likewise, in the New Testament, God states that it is the government’s responsibility to provide justice in order to protect the innocent from evil (Romans ...

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