Where is the Evidence for Atheism?

Feb 25, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: News24

Christians hear it all the time in one form or another from atheists and sceptics.

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Bleh. Back to my point. The scientific method can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God. It stands to reason, then, that your continual damnation of all things theist is as idiotic as it is illogical. You're simply defending your opinion. Which is fine. We are all entitled to one. Having an opinion on something doesn't necessarily make it true, however. Especially seeing as how you cannot, yet again, use the scientific method to disprove that which you don't believe in. Again, do what you do. Quite frankly, the zeal with which you go about your assault on anything and everything that just so happens to contradict your own personal convictions makes you more like the religious fundies that you so openly hate. Not less like them. I see no enlightenment in that.
I've no need to defend my opinion because it isn't an opinion - its a statement that no one has ever refuted:

There is not now, nor has there ever been, any proof of any god's exitence.

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atheists are HUANTED 24/7/365 by our so-called "myth"

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Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>I've no need to defend my opinion because it isn't an opinion - its a statement that no one has ever refuted:

There is not now, nor has there ever been, any proof of any god's exitence.
Nor do you have the right to call my opinion a lie when you cannot disprove the existence of God using the scientific method. Enough with the condemnation of all things contradictory to your own belief system already. If you wish to express your opinion, then please simply say as much. That's fine. But please don't come at me with "evidence" that we both know you don't have seeing as how the scientific method can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God.

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So you admit that your opinion isn't factual? Especially seeing as how it cannot be proven using the scientific method?
I recognize a difference between my opinion (say, that tomatoes taste awful) and facts (such as scientific statements). The difference is that facts *can* be established by evidence via the scientific method. Opinions cannot.
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atheists are HUANTED 24/7/365 by our so-called "myth"
...... and the wicked flee when no man persues
.......... comical if not so sad .. http://carm.org/atheism
Here is serious comedy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Bleh. Back to my point. The scientific method can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God. It stands to reason, then, that your continual damnation of all things theist is as idiotic as it is illogical.
The idiotic aspect is thinking that theological opinions are facts. If you claim that the existence of a deity is a fact, as opposed to an opinion, you are being idiotic. of course, there is an additional problem that existence questions are usually regarded as questions of fact, not as matters of opinion.

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But please don't come at me with "evidence" that we both know you don't have seeing as how the scientific method can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God.
Part of the reason for this inability is that theists can't seem to agree on the way to *test* the existence of a deity. or, for that matter, many of the primary properties of a deity.

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<quoted text>I recognize a difference between my opinion (say, that tomatoes taste awful) and facts (such as scientific statements). The difference is that facts *can* be established by evidence via the scientific method. Opinions cannot.
Then, by all means, use the scientific method to disprove the existence of God. Minds far more brilliant than yours (which I have the utmost respect for) have failed to do so throughout history. All you can do is offer your opinion on the matter.

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<quoted text>The idiotic aspect is thinking that theological opinions are facts. If you claim that the existence of a deity is a fact, as opposed to an opinion, you are being idiotic. of course, there is an additional problem that existence questions are usually regarded as questions of fact, not as matters of opinion.
I'm not claiming my opinion on religion to be fact. It is simply what I believe. Yet I'm not the one damning others for having an opinion contrary to my own and calling it fact. The truth is the existence of God can neither be proven or disproven using the scientific method. You have no right to condemn.

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Then, by all means, use the scientific method to disprove the existence of God. Minds far more brilliant than yours (which I have the utmost respect for) have failed to do so throughout history. All you can do is offer your opinion on the matter.
It is your hypothesis, you give me a test that will answer the question once and for all. if it turns out one way, we all know there is a God. if it turns out the other, we all know there is not. if no such test is possible, even in theory, then the question is not one of fact.

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Nor do you have the right to call my opinion a lie when you cannot disprove the existence of God using the scientific method. Enough with the condemnation of all things contradictory to your own belief system already. If you wish to express your opinion, then please simply say as much. That's fine. But please don't come at me with "evidence" that we both know you don't have seeing as how the scientific method can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God.
What on earth are you babbling about? When have I done these things?

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<quoted text>It is your hypothesis, you give me a test that will answer the question once and for all. if it turns out one way, we all know there is a God. if it turns out the other, we all know there is not. if no such test is possible, even in theory, then the question is not one of fact.
Lol The burden of proof bs again? You atheists are so predictable. You accuse and ridicule until someone calls you on your crap and then, when you can't use the scientific method to support your claim, you throw the burden of proof out there. How very unique of you. What you fail to understand is that I don't require proof to believe in God. I just believe. Since you can't use science to disprove the existence of God, I'm just gonna keep right on believing. The fact that that bothers you is on you.

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"burden of proof out there" would be a valid point if Christians were DEMANDING atheists believe in God .. but we're not .. and their "Burden of proof" point is invalid ... lol !!

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"burden of proof out there" would be a valid point if Christians were DEMANDING atheists believe in God .. but we're not .. and their "Burden of proof" point is invalid ... lol !!
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Lol The burden of proof bs again? You atheists are so predictable. You accuse and ridicule until someone calls you on your crap and then, when you can't use the scientific method to support your claim, you throw the burden of proof out there. How very unique of you. What you fail to understand is that I don't require proof to believe in God. I just believe. Since you can't use science to disprove the existence of God, I'm just gonna keep right on believing. The fact that that bothers you is on you.
One cannot scientificlly test something that has no evidnce in support of it to begin with. One does not need to use the scientific method to support a claim of non-existence when there is no evidence of that existence in the first place. We can dismiss your 'god' as easily as you can dismiss all other possible 'gods'... and faeries... and ogres... and gremlins... and unicorns... and leprechauns... and vampires... and werewolves... etc. simply because there is no evidence to support their existence.

If you want to believe a particular mythical 'god' is real, knock youself out. The minute you want to use that belief as justification to oppress certain segments of the population or try to get it taught as fact in the public school system, you better have more than "I have faith it's true" as an argument

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just because the physical has no ability to examine the spiritual does not mean that the spiritual does not exist .. one may be able to disect the brain .. but can you see the mind

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<quoted text>One cannot scientificlly test something that has no evidnce in support of it to begin with. One does not need to use the scientific method to support a claim of non-existence when there is no evidence of that existence in the first place. We can dismiss your 'god' as easily as you can dismiss all other possible 'gods'... and faeries... and ogres... and gremlins... and unicorns... and leprechauns... and vampires... and werewolves... etc. simply because there is no evidence to support their existence.

If you want to believe a particular mythical 'god' is real, knock youself out. The minute you want to use that belief as justification to oppress certain segments of the population or try to get it taught as fact in the public school system, you better have more than "I have faith it's true" as an argument
Lol Did I personally oppress anybody? I don't think so. There you go again blaming me for the actions of others. Discriminate much? The fact that you cannot prove or disprove the existence of God does not make your opinion on the matter true. Therefore you can't say with all certainty that you are right. Thus your condemnation of those who believe contrary to you is illogical and uncalled for. There's nothing scientific about that. Nor does it make you enlightened.

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Then how did the ancient people who first spoke of and were about god discover him? Looks like they must have made it up unless you are claiming they had better observation techniques than modern science?
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Yet the scientific method cannot disprove the existence of God. Therefore your opinions on the matter are no more or less childish than my own. They are simply your opinions. Condemning mine doesn't make yours true.

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The minute you want to use that belief as justification to oppress certain segments of the population
you see folks ... it's ALL about Gay marriage and Abortion .... behold: the communion cup of the Left

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I think atheists should go start their own country .. although Russia was a good start (this one is ours) Anno Domini 1620 ... if atheists want their religion to be the state religion ... they'll have to fight for it

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