Where is the Evidence for Atheism?

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Christians hear it all the time in one form or another from atheists and sceptics.

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#247 Mar 6, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
And for the umpteenth time, stop trying to use your imaginary friend named god as a reason to legislate and force your bigotry and ignorance upon the masses.
That's all.
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Your reasons for forcing bigotry and ignorance on the masses are far superior to theirs.

I get it.

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#248 Mar 6, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
So the next time a religious group tries to throw it's weight around to force it's will upon others you will stand against them?
Yes or no.
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Sure. Throwing weight around and forcing your will on others should always be done for non-religious reasons.

I get it.

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#249 Mar 6, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
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I don't know. Maybe the same reason they would waste their time not believing in a God they can't disprove exists using the scientific method?
LOL...how does someone waste time NOT believing in something?

Seriously...you're really embarrassing yourself.

"Hey Betty...want to go to a movie?"

"I can't - I have to spend tonight not believing in unicorns!"

LOL

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Lexington, KY

#250 Mar 6, 2013
Why can't you?
01Justsayin wrote:
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You can neither prove nor disprove that God exists using the scientific method.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#251 Mar 6, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Your reasons for forcing bigotry and ignorance on the masses are far superior to theirs.
I get it.
You would prefer to allow your delusion to be forced on other people, I get it.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#252 Mar 6, 2013
I am for fairness equality and justice for all not just the majority. Explain how this is bigotry.
Buck Crick wrote:
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Your reasons for forcing bigotry and ignorance on the masses are far superior to theirs.
I get it.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#253 Mar 6, 2013
Ensuing separation of church and state and ending bigotry best we can in our secular society. The wall of separation between church and state is important and even many religious people agree. How many Christians and Jews would like it if the school pressured their children to get on a prayer rug and chant to Allah each day at school?

My wife is a catholic and she said even as a believer she wouldn't want to hear a Mormon prayer in school.

Just one of several examples on how important this is.

I suppose you are too fat to understand, all that cholesterol from your ample man-boobs impeding the flow of blood to your brain.
Buck Crick wrote:
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Sure. Throwing weight around and forcing your will on others should always be done for non-religious reasons.
I get it.

“you must not give faith”

Since: Jul 12

Nottingham, UK

#254 Mar 6, 2013
His-truth wrote:
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oh yes they are ... until you provide proof
MUCH MORE belief .. and MUCH MORE faith .. lol !!
Hypocrisy and maybe then you will understand the difference between disbelieving and believing in an ideaís inaccuracy, Disbelieving is not believing in an idea because it is unjustified the only evidence one could give is its absence for the other side, believing in an ideaís inaccuracy is believing that an idea is wrong not just because it is unjustified but also because one has arguments that show itís falsehood.
I belong to the seconded camp the UNPOPULAR idea that God is not only unjustified but also nonexistent and here is main reason why.
God is infallible, that means it knows everything on every subject including what will happen in the future, if one can know with absolute certainty then the future and God canít be free but yet that is a characteristic of God he should have free will. Thus any God that is both infallible and free cannot exist as it is self contradictory.

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#255 Mar 6, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Your backsliders might be, but to be not theist doesn't imply any belief nor it would it say that the highly ridiculous, and thoroughly misplaced Asian god myth would have any affect on those who are un indoctrinated. You have to believe the crap, to be haunted by the crap. Did you know that according to the bible, the Jehovah-tool will make you eat your children?
You do know that "atheism" is the complete abscence of any "ism" don't you? That is what the word means.
You are a bald-faced liar.

"Atheism" is an "ism", by definition.

Adopting this particular "ism" (atheism) is to BELIEVE in the correctness of the position.

You are not just a liar, you are also illiterate.

The word "atheist" is not analogous to words such as "amoral", meaning "without moral". The reason is the root word of it - "atheos", a greek word meaning "no god". "Atheos" means no god; "Atheism" means "no godism".

Atheism is a positon or point of view of their being no god in the world, or a view of the world with no god in it.

Just like "theism", "atheism" is believed by the atheist to be the correct position, to whatever strength he chooses to invest in it.

The word "atheism" is accurately understood to be the position that there is no god.

Any attempts to lie about this are just attempts to cowardly escape any burden of argument.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#256 Mar 6, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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You are a bald-faced liar.
"Atheism" is an "ism", by definition.
Adopting this particular "ism" (atheism) is to BELIEVE in the correctness of the position.
You are not just a liar, you are also illiterate.
The word "atheist" is not analogous to words such as "amoral", meaning "without moral". The reason is the root word of it - "atheos", a greek word meaning "no god". "Atheos" means no god; "Atheism" means "no godism".
Atheism is a positon or point of view of their being no god in the world, or a view of the world with no god in it.
Just like "theism", "atheism" is believed by the atheist to be the correct position, to whatever strength he chooses to invest in it.
The word "atheism" is accurately understood to be the position that there is no god.
Any attempts to lie about this are just attempts to cowardly escape any burden of argument.
Wrong, not that you're interested in reality.

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#257 Mar 6, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Ensuing separation of church and state and ending bigotry best we can in our secular society. The wall of separation between church and state is important and even many religious people agree. How many Christians and Jews would like it if the school pressured their children to get on a prayer rug and chant to Allah each day at school?
My wife is a catholic and she said even as a believer she wouldn't want to hear a Mormon prayer in school.
Just one of several examples on how important this is.
I suppose you are too fat to understand, all that cholesterol from your ample man-boobs impeding the flow of blood to your brain.
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When was that "Wall" put into the Constitution and ratified by the people?

When "the people" ratified the Constitution and its amendments, including the religion clauses of the First Amendment, they did so with the understanding that equality between Christianity and Islam was not what they were voting for.

What they were voting for was a federal government who left these matters to STATES; and would "make no law respecting" such matters. All agreed the U.S. Government would stay the hell out of it. This is evident from reading the congressional record of the First Amendment debate. The fear being addressed was intrusion of a new central government into matters of states on religion - some of which already had ESTABLISHED RELIGIONS.

As to the states, they have their own Constitutions. They can manage these as the people wish, amend or add to the rules as they wish. I doubt we have a state yet that would require allegiance to Allah.

In other words, you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

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#258 Mar 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Wrong, not that you're interested in reality.
What reality do you wish to inform me of?

That the root word of "atheism" is not "atheos", meaning "no god"?

That the "no god" position or view is not a position or view?

That if one professes to concur with the no god position, then he does not profess a belief that the position is correct?

If that's your reality, run with it. But you are adopting something demonstrably false, and you know it, and to claim otherwise is to lie in support of the position you claim is not even held.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#259 Mar 6, 2013
You really need to shut off Fox News fatboy.

Church and state are separate much like your buffet plate and green leafy vegetables stay separate.
Buck Crick wrote:
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When was that "Wall" put into the Constitution and ratified by the people?
When "the people" ratified the Constitution and its amendments, including the religion clauses of the First Amendment, they did so with the understanding that equality between Christianity and Islam was not what they were voting for.
What they were voting for was a federal government who left these matters to STATES; and would "make no law respecting" such matters. All agreed the U.S. Government would stay the hell out of it. This is evident from reading the congressional record of the First Amendment debate. The fear being addressed was intrusion of a new central government into matters of states on religion - some of which already had ESTABLISHED RELIGIONS.
As to the states, they have their own Constitutions. They can manage these as the people wish, amend or add to the rules as they wish. I doubt we have a state yet that would require allegiance to Allah.
In other words, you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#260 Mar 6, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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What reality do you wish to inform me of?
That the root word of "atheism" is not "atheos", meaning "no god"?
That the "no god" position or view is not a position or view?
That if one professes to concur with the no god position, then he does not profess a belief that the position is correct?
If that's your reality, run with it. But you are adopting something demonstrably false, and you know it, and to claim otherwise is to lie in support of the position you claim is not even held.
Well, since you keep making up things, thank you for admitting you are not interested in reality but prefer your fantasy land.

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#261 Mar 6, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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There is not now, nor has there ever been, any proof that any supernatural god ever worshipped by man existed.
Are you sure you know what "proof" means?

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#262 Mar 6, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
You really need to shut off Fox News fatboy.
Church and state are separate much like your buffet plate and green leafy vegetables stay separate.
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Really? They are separate?

Who maintains the white crosses at Arlington?

You do, if you pay taxes.

When President Thomas Jefferson sent money from the U.S. Treasury to build a Catholic church, and hire a priest, who was paying for that?

The First Amendment was ratified before Jefferson did that, and had the exact same wording as it does today.

Do you think Thomas Jefferson never heard of your "Wall"?

If Jefferson knew about the "wall", either he ignored it, or he thought it meant something different than you do.

Which is it?

Please explain.

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#263 Mar 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Well, since you keep making up things, thank you for admitting you are not interested in reality but prefer your fantasy land.
Point out what I made up.

Did I make up the Greek root word? I wasn't alive then.

Did I make up the English language? Wasn't alive then, either.

Somebody is making up things. It's not me.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#264 Mar 6, 2013
Are you sure you know what diet means? Ladies and gentlemen Buck's argument has grown in desperation to the point he needs to Glenn Beck it by piling and choosing edited definitions of words.

Sad.
Buck Crick wrote:
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Are you sure you know what "proof" means?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#265 Mar 6, 2013
Yes church and state are separate. We have some backwards losers desperately clinging to avoiding this but it's crumbling around their ears.

Your Fox News Glenn Beck talking points cut no ice with their obfuscation.

You lose fatboy, not weight sadly but you lose.
Buck Crick wrote:
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Really? They are separate?
Who maintains the white crosses at Arlington?
You do, if you pay taxes.
When President Thomas Jefferson sent money from the U.S. Treasury to build a Catholic church, and hire a priest, who was paying for that?
The First Amendment was ratified before Jefferson did that, and had the exact same wording as it does today.
Do you think Thomas Jefferson never heard of your "Wall"?
If Jefferson knew about the "wall", either he ignored it, or he thought it meant something different than you do.
Which is it?
Please explain.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#266 Mar 6, 2013
Buck, unlike deep fried foods we are not getting through to you. Perhaps it's a language barrier?

Here let's try it in another language that you may understand.

Ahem... Moooooo... Moo..momomooomoooooo? Mooooo separation of church moo state. Moo moooooo angry moooo! Mooo church shouldn't dictate to non moo believers. Moooo bigotry imposed moo organized religions have mooo right mooo force beliefs mooo sane people mooo.

Understand now?
Buck Crick wrote:
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Point out what I made up.
Did I make up the Greek root word? I wasn't alive then.
Did I make up the English language? Wasn't alive then, either.
Somebody is making up things. It's not me.

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