Where is the Evidence for Atheism?

Where is the Evidence for Atheism?

There are 305 comments on the News24 story from Feb 25, 2013, titled Where is the Evidence for Atheism?. In it, News24 reports that:

Christians hear it all the time in one form or another from atheists and sceptics.

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#186 Mar 5, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
<quoted text>You just admitted it. Your concept of god is in your own words polar opposite to the ancient people! Again your words. Meaning you have confessed that you and they have invented this god with your imagination and nothing more. It couldn't be otherwise by your own admission.

You don't need science to prove imagination we can see even children playing with their toys using it.

Since we have no secular proof of these specific ancients who wrote about god even existing let alone their so called adventures we can clearly see how they like you created god with their imagination and nothing more.

They did this as a comfort measure when they were alone or scared. As a matter of explaining what they were unable to understand and yes to control their fellow man to do their bidding.

But humanity is growing up and the time has come to put away childish things.
Lol You're the wordy twisty guy aren't you? I'm not biting. Twist until your little heart is content. It doesn't change the truth. You cannot use the scientific method to prove or disprove the existence of God. End of story.

“the end-times is now”

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#188 Mar 5, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
explaining what they were unable to understand and yes to control their fellow man to do their bidding
Is there somebody controlling you ?????... please do tell

“the end-times is now”

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#189 Mar 5, 2013
well .. I'll leave you "non-believers" with this ...

I .. Jesus .. have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches .. I am the Root and the Offspring of David .. and the bright Morning Star ... The Spirit and the bride say .. Come! And let him who hears say .. Come!.. Whoever is thirsty .. let him come .. and whoever wishes .. let him take the free gift of the water of life

.......... Revelation 22

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#190 Mar 5, 2013
Meaning it's a creation of your imagination as you already said.
01Justsayin wrote:
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Lol You're the wordy twisty guy aren't you? I'm not biting. Twist until your little heart is content. It doesn't change the truth. You cannot use the scientific method to prove or disprove the existence of God. End of story.

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#191 Mar 5, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
<quoted text>Meaning it's a creation of your imagination as you already said.
Not in my opinion. Don't agree? Feel free to use the scientific method to prove me wrong.

“the end-times is now”

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#192 Mar 5, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Meaning it's a creation of your imagination as you already said
.......... prove it ... lol !!

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

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#193 Mar 5, 2013
His-truth wrote:
Having undertaken .. for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith and Honor of our King and Country .. A Voyage to plant the First Colony in the Northern Parts of Virginia .. do by these presents solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another .. Covenant and Combine ourselves together into a Civil Body Politic .. for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid .. and by virtue hereof to enact .. constitute and frame such just and equal Laws .. Ordinances .. Acts .. Constitutions and Offices .. from time to time .. as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the Colony .. unto which we promise all due submission and obedience ......
.......... read and weep atheists
Why? This country in not a colony of England. That ended with... let me see... oh yeah, The Delclaration of Independence. That pretty much voids any compact the original colonists had with the king of England... or does anything that coflicts with your view become irrelevant if it happened after 1620?

Any more stupid you wish to display? Never mind... dumb question
CunningLinguist

Winter Garden, FL

#194 Mar 5, 2013
His-truth wrote:
well .. I'll leave you "non-believers" with this ...
I .. Jesus .. have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches .. I am the Root and the Offspring of David .. and the bright Morning Star ... The Spirit and the bride say .. Come! And let him who hears say .. Come!.. Whoever is thirsty .. let him come .. and whoever wishes .. let him take the free gift of the water of life
.......... Revelation 22
Adieu Jesus Roach

"And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen".--Exodus 33:23

"Then Jehovah opened the mouth of the ass, and she said to Balaam, What have I done to thee, that thou hast smitten me now three times?" But Balaam, enraged at the refractoriness of his ass, replied, "Because thou hast played me ill, see Exodus 10:2): if there were onl

But the ass replied, that she had been ridden by him from a long time back, and had never been accustomed to act in this way towards him. These words of the irrational beast, the truth of which Balaam was obliged to admit, made an impression upon him, and awakened him out of his blindness, so that God could now open his eyes, and he saw the angel of the Lord.

Can it get any sillier?
OF COURSE IT CAN AND DOES!

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#195 Mar 5, 2013
I usually don't respond to these sorts of red herring distractions, but just for fun...
CunningLinguist wrote:
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One question - IF the Islamic martyrs had a nuclear bomb, and used it on infidels, what would be your position then?]/QUOTE]

The martyrs, would, of course, be dead, but all members of any organization that might have been behind the attack would have to be captured or killed until the group no longer existed. But Muslims who had nothing to do with it should be left alone unless they were found to be plotting new attacks.

[QUOTE] Do you consider the Mullah ruled Iran as potentially dangerous as North Korea in nuclear ambitions? Both are extremist governments.
Yes, but are equally dangerous and totalitarian governments of all sorts tend to be.

My main concern is with American society as I have neither an adequate understanding nor sufficient influence to meddle beyond that scope. I'm happy here because of the combination of personal liberty, domestic peace, and material prosperity, and I'd hate to see any of those qualities seriously eroded. Prosperity is at a bit of a low point right now, but it's still at a pretty high point when compared to many other places and with most societies of centuries past. I can't think of anything that I could legally do in my youth that I can't now. And major issues still tend to be settled legally, not with violence. Things are good.

But religious conflict could change that. Christians still comprise a sufficient majority to launch real oppression of nonbelievers if they can muster a united effort that involves all levels of government on all scales. Would they do if they felt sufficiently threatened? Possibly. To Muslims, we are infidels and worthy only to be food for the sword. Might they arise to fulfill their Prophet's instructions to kill those of use who won't convert? If we are overly aggressive as our rising numbers allow us to take our proper place in society and government, the backlash could be doubly aggressive. But if we are properly respectful of our religious counterparts as fellow human beings, perhaps that respect will be returned, albeit in smaller measure. If we can take our place without provoking violent response, we should attain a sort of equilibrium that will ensure the continuation of liberty, peace, and prosperity. Is that not a worthy goal?

“the end-times is now”

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#196 Mar 5, 2013
TerryL wrote:
Why? This country in not a colony of England. That ended with... let me see... oh yeah, The Delclaration of Independence. That pretty much voids any compact the original colonists had with the king of England... or does anything that coflicts with your view become irrelevant if it happened after 1620?.. Any more stupid you wish to display? Never mind... dumb question
"That ended with... let me see... oh yeah .. The Delclaration of Independence"

and that's all that ended ... the intent of our country did not end with it .. is still the same .... btw:.. where's your atheist docomunt .. still waiting

“It's just a box of rain...”

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#197 Mar 5, 2013
His-truth wrote:
"burden of proof out there" would be a valid point if Christians were DEMANDING atheists believe in God .. but we're not .. and their "Burden of proof" point is invalid ... lol !!
Likewise, since atheist make no demands that believers abandon their faiths, they carry no burden of proof. But when theists challenge atheists to provide evidence, the implication is that failure to do so demands concession that God exists. That being the case, it is reasonable to respond that something as all-encompassing and powerful as God would leave irrefutable evidence of His existence and that absence of that evidence is therefore evidence of His absence. The resulting shift of the burden of proof is entirely legitimate.

“the end-times is now”

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#198 Mar 5, 2013
TerryL = "This country in not a colony of England. That ended with... let me see... oh yeah, The Delclaration of Independence. That pretty much voids any compact the original colonists had with the king of England"

The last straw that broke the camel's back was when England forbad us to print the Bible ... sorry England .. but America will be the platform for the advancement of the Christian faith .. sorry atheists .. If you want a "Christian-free" country .... you'll have to find another ... I hear Cuba is nice this time of year

"That pretty much voids any compact the original colonists had with the king of England"

Um, the compact was not with England ... It was with US ... thank you very much

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

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#199 Mar 5, 2013
His-truth wrote:
<quoted text>
"That ended with... let me see... oh yeah .. The Delclaration of Independence"
and that's all that ended ... the intent of our country did not end with it .. is still the same .... btw:.. where's your atheist docomunt .. still waiting
Show me where the Constitution proclaims this country is founded on christian principles.

BTW... the document that made me an atheist is the bible... well, that and the fact that I don't accept "because I have faith" as valid evidence of anything

“the end-times is now”

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#200 Mar 5, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
Likewise, since atheist make no demands that believers abandon their faiths [thank you very much] they carry no burden of proof. But when theists challenge atheists to provide evidence, the implication is that failure to do so demands concession that God exists
"the implication is that failure to do so demands concession that God exists"

........ not at all

.... I couldn't care less that you believe not

Like I said ... no skin off my nose

“the end-times is now”

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#201 Mar 5, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Show me where the Constitution proclaims this country is founded on christian principles
are you telling me that the declairation of independance is not one of our country's founding documents ??...... Y/N

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#202 Mar 5, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Show me where the Constitution proclaims this country is founded on christian principles.

BTW... the document that made me an atheist is the bible... well, that and the fact that I don't accept "because I have faith" as valid evidence of anything
Nor can you use the scientific method to disprove that God exists. Do it and shut us theists up for good. I'm not calling you a moron for not believing. I respect your choice. I simply resent the fact that you would arrogantly accuse theists of believing in a Fairytale when you can't even prove (via the scientific method) that said "Fairytale" doesn't exist. That's a bit backwards don't you think?

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#203 Mar 5, 2013
Although I believe intelligence can be proven .. http://perry.fingerprints.s3.amazonaws.com/in... .. I apply it to God .. atheists can apply it to whom-so-ever they wish
CunningLinguist

Winter Garden, FL

#204 Mar 5, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
I usually don't respond to these sorts of red herring distractions, but just for fun...
<quoted text>
Yes, but are equally dangerous and totalitarian governments of all sorts tend to be.
My main concern is with American society as I have neither an adequate understanding nor sufficient influence to meddle beyond that scope. I'm happy here because of the combination of personal liberty, domestic peace, and material prosperity, and I'd hate to see any of those qualities seriously eroded. Prosperity is at a bit of a low point right now, but it's still at a pretty high point when compared to many other places and with most societies of centuries past. I can't think of anything that I could legally do in my youth that I can't now. And major issues still tend to be settled legally, not with violence. Things are good.
But religious conflict could change that. Christians still comprise a sufficient majority to launch real oppression of nonbelievers if they can muster a united effort that involves all levels of government on all scales. Would they do if they felt sufficiently threatened? Possibly. To Muslims, we are infidels and worthy only to be food for the sword. Might they arise to fulfill their Prophet's instructions to kill those of use who won't convert? If we are overly aggressive as our rising numbers allow us to take our proper place in society and government, the backlash could be doubly aggressive. But if we are properly respectful of our religious counterparts as fellow human beings, perhaps that respect will be returned, albeit in smaller measure. If we can take our place without provoking violent response, we should attain a sort of equilibrium that will ensure the continuation of liberty, peace, and prosperity. Is that not a worthy goal?
Yes, it is a worthy goal.

Can it be achieved is really the question, and alas... only 'the gods' know this!

We have 3 desert religions that share a centuries old hatred among themselves. They cannot agree with one another on theology, dogma or daily living.

Endless religious conflict in a nuclear age is inherently dangerous.

Were the pilots of 9/11 terrorists or martyrs?

Are they with their 72 virgins or swimming in the 'lake of fire'?

These questions are already answered in the minds of each persons religion.

Islam - martyrs with 72 virgins in paradise. "Allah be praised"
Christians - terrorists in hell. "Hallelujah Jesus"

CATCH-22?

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#205 Mar 5, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
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Nor can you use the scientific method to disprove that God exists. Do it and shut us theists up for good. I'm not calling you a moron for not believing. I respect your choice. I simply resent the fact that you would arrogantly accuse theists of believing in a Fairytale when you can't even prove (via the scientific method) that said "Fairytale" doesn't exist. That's a bit backwards don't you think?
There is not now, nor has there ever been, any proof that any supernatural god ever worshipped by man existed.

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#206 Mar 5, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>There is not now, nor has there ever been, any proof that any supernatural god ever worshipped by man existed.
There is not now, nor has there ever been, one single person who can disprove the existence of God.

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