Aliens and evolution

Jun 19, 2012 Full story: Washington Times 6,103

DENTON, Texas, June 19, 2012 - Aliens are ingrained in our cultural psyche. They abound in books, movies, radio, and a thousand theories about the extra-terrestrial, little green men, UFO sightings, abductions, Area 51, and Roswell.

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Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#5985 Mar 26, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>You're forgetting earthly life was saved on the ark and it's likely the flood was only local, not worldwide. There's no way all the living species would have fit on the ark but all of humankind was drowned except for Noah and his family.
You are forgetting that people were actually on almost all the other continents, even as long as a couple of thousand years ago.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

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#5986 Mar 27, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
We are talking about the possibility of locating extraterrestrial life in the future. It necessarily must be something happening in the future, since it's not current nor past. It is IMPOSSIBLE to have evidence of a future event. You can not say, definitely, that you have evidence that tomorrow gravity will exist. You can point to the fact that gravity does exist now and SPECULATE that it will LIKELY exist in the future. The reason you can speculate about this is that there's no evidence that gravity is limited to the present. There's no reason to assume that the mechanisms that result in gravity will cease tomorrow. The same thing is happening here. We can point to the fact that life DOES exist and SPECULATE that life ALSO exists elsewhere. The reason being that there's nothing about life which prohibits it from existing elsewhere. Earth does not possess a unique element. Chemistry does not work different here. Therefore, given that the same rules apply here as elsewhere and that there is A LOT of elsewhere. It's safe to assume EVEN WITHOUT EVIDENCE that some other planet somewhere else in the Universe has gravity. And life.
If you assume without evidence, that's faith, not science.

Since: Jun 07

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#5987 Mar 27, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>You're forgetting earthly life was saved on the ark and it's likely the flood was only local, not worldwide. There's no way all the living species would have fit on the ark but all of humankind was drowned except for Noah and his family.
Don't encourage mentally ill people because their fantasies will get more and more elaborate as they get attention for lying.
Siro

Ringwood East, Australia

#5988 Mar 27, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't encourage mentally ill people because their fantasies will get more and more elaborate as they get attention for lying.
Well noone can accuse you of lying, you always post what a cvnt you are

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#5989 Mar 27, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>You're forgetting earthly life was saved on the ark and it's likely the flood was only local, not worldwide. There's no way all the living species would have fit on the ark but all of humankind was drowned except for Noah and his family.
That myth doesn't hold water in so many ways, and no, there would be no complex life left today, especially humanity, if that did happen,

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#5990 Mar 27, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>If you assume without evidence, that's faith, not science.
No, that's still assuming.

"Faith," the kind you need for believing in your myths, is delusion when you claim your myths are fact.

Big difference between assuming and asserting something as fact.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#5991 Mar 27, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't encourage mentally ill people because their fantasies will get more and more elaborate as they get attention for lying.
Irony meter go boom.

Well, except for the more elaborate part. You were never able to elaborate very much at all.(shrug)

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Iquique

#5992 Mar 27, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>You are forgetting that people were actually on almost all the other continents, even as long as a couple of thousand years ago.
By roughly 15,000 years ago humans were everywhere on earth except Antarctica.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#5993 Mar 27, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>If you assume without evidence, that's faith, not science.

Well you present plenty of evidence here, that you a turbo fundie.
One incapable of following the line of reasoning presented by modern
biochemistry in astrobiology. In fact there's a job opening in this field, for the one that fits the criteria for understanding these things and has insight into this revolutionary relatively new dynamic concept of how this universe really works.
Science is progressing, you and your pessimism, will be quite literally be....
Left in the dust of space to be recycled in it's eventual planetary differentiation. Scientific knowledge...get some or stay stupid.

https://astrobiology.nasa.gov/

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Iquique

#5994 Mar 27, 2013
susanblange wrote:
If we rely on the history of our ancestors who experienced God, how can we deny that she exists? Why would a whole nation of people concoct a story that wasn't true, and cause their children to believe it. We have to accept that stories like the Exodus from Egypt really happened as described in the bible, there is no reason for them to lie.
A whole nation did not concoct the story, it was the high rabbi's and their conspirators.

And we have scientific evidence that the Exodus never happened.

The rabbi's were telling pious foundational lies to bring the people together.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Iquique

#5995 Mar 27, 2013
susanblange wrote:
There may very well be more stories from other cultures about their encounters with God. There's the Gilgamesh Epic about Noah and the flood and are almost the same but not perfectly identical. I think this proves the bible story, rather than discrediting it.
The Gilgamesh story was written about 500+ years before the Noah myth. There are 21 points of convergence. Noah's story was undoubtedly a retelling of the Gilgamesh story.

But, it is ALL myth, because we know the earth was NEVER completely covered with water. Well maybe 2.5 billion years ago.

You see these bronze age story tellers had no way of knowing we would be able to scientifically analyse their mythical stories in our times.

Since: Jun 07

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#5996 Mar 27, 2013
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
Well noone can accuse you of lying, you always post what a cvnt you are
I'm sorry, did you post proof of god? Thought not.

Since: Feb 13

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#5997 Mar 27, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>
A whole nation did not concoct the story, it was the high rabbi's and their conspirators.
And we have scientific evidence that the Exodus never happened.
The rabbi's were telling pious foundational lies to bring the people together.
What scientific evidence could there possibly be that proves the exodus never happened? If you say it's scientifically impossible, that's the definition of a miracle! And what God did the Rabbis serve, an idol?

Since: Jun 07

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#5998 Mar 27, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Irony meter go boom.
Well, except for the more elaborate part. You were never able to elaborate very much at all.(shrug)
It must be painful having to replace that faulty irony meter of yours that explodes so frequently.

If you read the instructions correctly it says do NOT shove it up your a$$.

Once you've corrected your error, all you need to do is 1) understand the burden of proof (will you ever really? nah) 2) Give me an example of something that is both real and unfalsifiable.

I think I can hear another irony meter exploding in your a$$ again. Better get that checked.

Since: Feb 13

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#5999 Mar 27, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>
The Gilgamesh story was written about 500+ years before the Noah myth. There are 21 points of convergence. Noah's story was undoubtedly a retelling of the Gilgamesh story.
But, it is ALL myth, because we know the earth was NEVER completely covered with water. Well maybe 2.5 billion years ago.
You see these bronze age story tellers had no way of knowing we would be able to scientifically analyse their mythical stories in our times.
There's absolutely no reason to make these stories up, and the Noah story was told by God to Moses, not by Noah himself. Do you believe in the shroud of Turin, because that is a myth, or actually outright fraud.

Since: Jun 07

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#6000 Mar 27, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>What scientific evidence could there possibly be that proves the exodus never happened? If you say it's scientifically impossible, that's the definition of a miracle! And what God did the Rabbis serve, an idol?
The burden of proof lies upon on the desperate idiot who claims that these poorly written events have any bearing on the nature of the universe, NOT on scientists.

We have better things to do like cure diseases and make your internet faster, so you can share more of your half-arsed religious opinions with gullible people on the internet.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#6001 Mar 27, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>
The Gilgamesh story was written about 500+ years before the Noah myth. There are 21 points of convergence. Noah's story was undoubtedly a retelling of the Gilgamesh story.
But, it is ALL myth, because we know the earth was NEVER completely covered with water. Well maybe 2.5 billion years ago.
You see these bronze age story tellers had no way of knowing we would be able to scientifically analyse their mythical stories in our times.
The epic of Gilgamesh was plausible and probably true, it was twisted in the yarn by jewery.

Since: Jun 07

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#6002 Mar 27, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>There's no way all the living species would have fit on the ark
Well at least you have some sense of rationality. I guess you're an apologist with an active imagination.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#6003 Mar 27, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>What scientific evidence could there possibly be that proves the exodus never happened? If you say it's scientifically impossible, that's the definition of a miracle! And what God did the Rabbis serve, an idol?

Excavations in Egypt have all but proven exodus is a classic example of a highly imaginative tale of stretching the truth like a 10 mile long rubber band that now is tighter than dick's hat band.
Exodus is pure rubbish, a tale by jewery , that doesn't pass the Jew sniff test. Let alone any credible history of the world.

Since: Jun 07

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#6004 Mar 27, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>There's absolutely no reason to make these stories up,
Yes there is its for your cult to get more members. Thats why all the stories exist. Back then before there were things like science and the internet and education, people were stupid and got laid if they told good stories.
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>
and the Noah story was told by God to Moses, not by Noah himself.
No such thing as god and no evidence, moses either - all made up.
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you believe in the shroud of Turin, because that is a myth, or actually outright fraud.
Turin shroud was also proven to be fake. You guys believe anything...how do you even decide what to believe? flip a coim?

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