Aliens and evolution

Jun 19, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Washington Times

DENTON, Texas, June 19, 2012 - Aliens are ingrained in our cultural psyche. They abound in books, movies, radio, and a thousand theories about the extra-terrestrial, little green men, UFO sightings, abductions, Area 51, and Roswell.

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#5576 Jan 14, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Keep telling yourself that.
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ar050049f
Try reading that again. Please.

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#5577 Jan 14, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
It's true. I post in bursts. I am not consistently on the forum. However, I am consistently rational.
No, you are not.

You make prejudiced, and broad, sweeping statements without supporting evidence.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#5578 Jan 14, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Try reading that again. Please.
Carbonaceous chondrite meteorites are primitive asteroidal fragments that contain organic carbon and offer a glimpse of the abiotic chemical processes that preceded the onset of life. Their organic material displays structures as diverse as kerogen-like macromolecules and simpler soluble compounds that range from polar amino acids and polyols to nonpolar hydrocarbons. Several of these compounds have identical counterparts in terrestrial biomolecules and some of the amino acids show a unique l-asymmetry, suggesting their possible contribution to terrestrial molecular evolution and the origin of biological homochirality.

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#5579 Jan 14, 2013
The Dude wrote:
...Then neither do you, due to your support of Mother Teresa. In my example it was Jews. In your example it was kids. Why is it evil to Jews and not kids? Do you hate children? All of a sudden your abortion stance looks rather strange...
I oppose killing Jews, children and the unborn. The Dude's example of Nazi experimental tests prove he doesn't understand good science.

There have been lander missions to the moon, Titan, Venus, Mercury some comets and asteroids and we've never found evidence of extraterrestrial life. Belief in alien life forms is based on faith, not scientific evidence.

I don't advocate stopping space exploration and I don't advocate stopping freedom of religion. There's as much evidence for God as there is for extraterrestrial life: none.

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#5580 Jan 14, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
Carbonaceous chondrite meteorites are primitive asteroidal fragments that contain organic carbon and offer a glimpse of the abiotic chemical processes that preceded the onset of life. Their organic material displays structures as diverse as kerogen-like macromolecules and simpler soluble compounds that range from polar amino acids and polyols to nonpolar hydrocarbons. Several of these compounds have identical counterparts in terrestrial biomolecules and some of the amino acids show a unique l-asymmetry, suggesting their possible contribution to terrestrial molecular evolution and the origin of biological homochirality.
So, it's possible life started on Earth because of meteorites but we can't claim there's life on asteroids or comets because we have no evidence of life on those objects. It's also possible that, if life began because of meteorites, other planets and moons that have been struck by meteorites might have developed life; but again, there's no evidence of extraterrestrial life.

Belief in extraterrestrial life is faith based; there's no evidence.

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#5581 Jan 14, 2013
Also note; there's no examples of life created in the lab from components found on meteorites. There's evidence meteorites become contaminated by Earth life, but no evidence of extraterrestrial life contaminating Earth.q

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#5582 Jan 14, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>So, it's possible life started on Earth because of meteorites but we can't claim there's life on asteroids or comets because we have no evidence of life on those objects. It's also possible that, if life began because of meteorites, other planets and moons that have been struck by meteorites might have developed life; but again, there's no evidence of extraterrestrial life.
Belief in extraterrestrial life is faith based; there's no evidence.
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#5583 Jan 14, 2013
'Monkey see.Monkey do.'

The End.

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#5584 Jan 14, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Thick.
Yes.

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#5585 Jan 14, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Carbonaceous chondrite meteorites are primitive asteroidal fragments that contain organic carbon and offer a glimpse of the abiotic chemical processes that preceded the onset of life. Their organic material displays structures as diverse as kerogen-like macromolecules and simpler soluble compounds that range from polar amino acids and polyols to nonpolar hydrocarbons. Several of these compounds have identical counterparts in terrestrial biomolecules and some of the amino acids show a unique l-asymmetry, suggesting their possible contribution to terrestrial molecular evolution and the origin of biological homochirality.
Do you understand the words "abiotic", "preceded" and "possible"?

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#5586 Jan 14, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Do you understand the words "abiotic", "preceded" and "possible"?

Nano I understand we still do not know for certain how life started.
But I also understand this is bringing us closer toward that goal.

Lifeís First Spark Re-Created in the Laboratory,

"Intriguingly, the precursor molecules used by Sutherlandís team have been identified in interstellar dust clouds and on meteorites."

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/rib...

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#5587 Jan 14, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
But the largest whopper conspiracy of them is how you keep saying I conceded that your real
Pharaoh god had real magic powers and was the son of an imaginary deity. Because I never conceded (my argument)
Funny how you do concede to my ACTUAL argument but then claim you didn't and put up something that not only haven't I said, but which I've quite literally stated the opposite of on no less than a dozen occasions.

This, like your dishonesty about the articles, is why this debate drags on and on.

You want to win so badly that you think lying is acceptable. It's not.

I'm not going to simply give up because you continue to lie.

I'm going to stay right here and hold you accountable for you lies.

So, want to try again?

Did you or did you not just concede that there are religions which believe in gods?

Did you or did you not earlier concede that Thor was a god of the Vikings?

Did you or did you not earlier concede that Egypt was a real place, that the people there had religion and that they worshiped (among other gods) their Pharaohs?

Let's be SUPER clear on your position and then try and keep to it for more than a page.

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#5588 Jan 14, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>It's not about what the cost is, it's about the nerve of some other woman expecting anybody else to pay for her bullshyt behavior. She should pay for her own contraceptives and her own abortions too. "Her body, her mistakes, her fkg responsibility, her *choice*/abortion, her business"?, etc, as the the pro-choicers like to say! If it's none of my business then it also shouldn't cost me anything. Only a hypocritical whore wants it both ways. Oh, and the loser horndog who carelessly impregnated a woman he would never consider marrying.
It should be her bill to pay and nobody elses'; her womb, her business.
See, again this demonstrates that your issue isn't with abortion, it's with women. "whore"? Really?

Let me ask you something? Should high blood pressure medication be covered if the person has a stressful job? Should heart bypass surgery be covered if the person has eaten a hamburger? Gastric bypass for fat people? How about a broken leg from a skiing accident? Skin cancer surgery for people who've been outside?

What percentage of medical issues can not be traced back to some lifestyle choice or error in judgement?

I spent at least 20 years eating junk food too regularly. I'm sure my cholestrol was/is too high. Does that mean that I am ineligible for medical care?

Your dick is limp because you got old and now feel like you didn't use it enough. Should other people have to pay for your viagra?

If you are going to cover ANY medical procedure for ANYONE, you don't get to pick and choose who gets what procedure simply because you didn't get laid enough in high school.

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#5589 Jan 14, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Keep lying.
Any woman who enters a U.S. hospital emergency room who needs an immediate, life-saving abortion can get it done at taxpayers' expense. That's the law.
Nobody has a problem with that.
Took 2 seconds to google this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/joe-...

Admit that you are the one who lied when you said that _nobody_ has a problem with it. Apologize for claiming I lied that there were conservatives who will not make exceptions on abortion.

Then we can move on.

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#5590 Jan 14, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>No, you are not.
You make prejudiced, and broad, sweeping statements without supporting evidence.
Actually, I just gave you supporting evidence and destroyed your "women are whores" position on abortion.

Meanwhile, your _sweeping_ claim that EVERY SINGLE CONSERVATIVE is on board with saving the life of the mother took all of two seconds to refute.

Funny how it was from the exact same interview that started the whole pro-rape wing of the Conservative party.

Let's not forget the battle cry of the Conservative Pro-Rape wing: "Some women rape so easy".

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#5591 Jan 14, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Belief in alien life forms is based on faith, not scientific evidence.
This is the core problem with your argument:

We say "Alien life is probable based on the evidence we have seen and the vastness of the Universe."

You say "BELIEF (that alien life exists) is based on faith".

No one on our side of the debate is saying that we "BELIEVE" in alien life. We're saying that it is LIKELY due to the information we have.

Belief requires a lack of evidence.
We have evidence. It's not conclusive evidence, so we are not drawing a conclusion from it. We're saying that there is a likelihood.

Most of us aren't even citing a number of that likelihood. Just that it is more likely, based on what we've seen, that life exists/existed elsewhere in the Universe than never existed elsewhere.

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#5592 Jan 14, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I oppose killing Jews
But people from other religions, that's okay. Why? Because the Bible commands it, therefore it is moral.

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#5593 Jan 14, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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Funny how you do concede to my ACTUAL argument but then claim you didn't and put up something that not only haven't I said, but which I've quite literally stated the opposite of on no less than a dozen occasions.
This, like your dishonesty about the articles, is why this debate drags on and on.
You want to win so badly that you think lying is acceptable. It's not.
I'm not going to simply give up because you continue to lie.
I'm going to stay right here and hold you accountable for you lies.
So, want to try again?
Did you or did you not just concede that there are religions which believe in gods?
Did you or did you not earlier concede that Thor was a god of the Vikings?
Did you or did you not earlier concede that Egypt was a real place, that the people there had religion and that they worshiped (among other gods) their Pharaohs?
Let's be SUPER clear on your position and then try and keep to it for more than a page.
I never conceded Nugatory.

There were never any people who "really were" and "factually"
the son of an "factually existing deity", who was in "fact"
a real entity.
But said deity's were in "fact" *imaginary.

I never conceded Nugatory.

That these people who were the sons of imaginary gods "factually" and actually possessed supernatural powers.
But they in fact did *not factually or "actually" have or (possess) any supernatural or magical powers.
Or were truly the offspring of their "imaginary deity's", but in fact were "Not" the offspring of their imaginary deity's.


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#5594 Jan 14, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
Nano I understand we still do not know for certain how life started. But I also understand this is bringing us closer toward that goal.[]
I think the goal of science is to make life better; many radical secularists believe the goal of science is to destroy God. This is where we differ.

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#5595 Jan 14, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I think the goal of science is to make life better; many radical secularists believe the goal of science is to destroy God. This is where we differ.
No, the goal of science is to make life better. The goal of religion is to keep the status quo. That is where we differ.

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