Aliens and evolution

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DENTON, Texas, June 19, 2012 - Aliens are ingrained in our cultural psyche. They abound in books, movies, radio, and a thousand theories about the extra-terrestrial, little green men, UFO sightings, abductions, Area 51, and Roswell.

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Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#5133 Jan 5, 2013
Aura, let me ask you something:

I don't understand your reluctance to accept that the Christians worship a figure they refer to as "God" who is, in their religion a "god".

Similarly, the Vikings worshiped a figure called "Thor" who is, in their religion a "god".

The Hindus - Vishnu. Also a "god".

The Romans - Janus. Also a "god".

etc etc etc.

The list goes on for THOUSANDS of examples.

What exactly is your issue with these statements?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#5134 Jan 5, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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Your claim was that science could _never_ prove that something was incorrect. That it could ONLY prove things correct.
This example demonstrates an experiment where something is proven incorrect.
You have yet to even suggest an experiment in which something can be prove correct.
Why is that? It's because you know you can't do it.
You f'd up, then got all bitchy about it. Now you're too embarrassed to admit you were wrong.
Which is funny, because that's the entire basis of your criticism against me.
You owe me an irony meter.
No, my assertion is that science doesn't disprove things.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#5135 Jan 5, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
Aura, let me ask you something:
I don't understand your reluctance to accept that the Christians worship a figure they refer to as "God" who is, in their religion a "god".
Similarly, the Vikings worshiped a figure called "Thor" who is, in their religion a "god".
The Hindus - Vishnu. Also a "god".
The Romans - Janus. Also a "god".
etc etc etc.
The list goes on for THOUSANDS of examples.
What exactly is your issue with these statements?
You trying say they are physically real , they are only real in a mental state.
None of them are real in a physical sense , including Pharaoh.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#5136 Jan 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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You trying say they are physically real , they are only real in a mental state.
None of them are real in a physical sense , including Pharaoh.
No. Not only have I never said that Thor, Zeus, or Vishnu were physically real, I've actually posted no less than 7 times that they were _NOT_ physically real.

Go back and look for yourself.

You'll see quotes like: "Thor didn't ACTUALLY exist".

Are you telling me that when you read a statement like "Thor didn't ACTUALLY exist" you take it to mean that Thor is physically real?

Is that how utterly intent of disagreement you are that you take the EXACT opposite of what I am saying and claim that that is what I meant?

I'm seriously asking you this, but you've been pretty damn dishonest with your posts and I'm wondering why exactly you have such a problem with statements like:

"Thor didn't ACTUALLY exist".

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#5137 Jan 5, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
No. Not only have I never said that Thor, Zeus, or Vishnu were physically real, I've actually posted no less than 7 times that they were _NOT_ physically real.
Go back and look for yourself.
You'll see quotes like: "Thor didn't ACTUALLY exist".
Are you telling me that when you read a statement like "Thor didn't ACTUALLY exist" you take it to mean that Thor is physically real?
Is that how utterly intent of disagreement you are that you take the EXACT opposite of what I am saying and claim that that is what I meant?
I'm seriously asking you this, but you've been pretty damn dishonest with your posts and I'm wondering why exactly you have such a problem with statements like:
"Thor didn't ACTUALLY exist".
The god Pharaoh didn't actually exist either.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Iquique

#5138 Jan 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
The god Pharaoh didn't actually exist either.
Neither does the god...'God' exist. All gods are human constructs.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#5139 Jan 5, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Neither does the god...'God' exist. All gods are human constructs.
Exactly

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#5140 Jan 5, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong mechanism.
LGT conflicts with inheritance not NS.
So tell us where the chromosomal theory of inheritance excludes a transfer of information
by other means outside the genome. It does not conflict but presents a possible previously unknown pathway.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3...

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#5141 Jan 5, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
No, my assertion is that science doesn't disprove things.
And I've given you several examples of experiments in which you can disprove something.

You have yet to provide any evidence to negate those examples.

Here's another one:

Claim: Sunlight consists of only one wave length.
Experiment: Shine sunlight thought a prism.
Result: A range of different wave lengths become visible as the light travels through the prism and projects out the other side.

Does that not disprove the claim?

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#5142 Jan 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
The god Pharaoh didn't actually exist either.
You are conflating two different arguments and the result is gibberish.

You can EITHER argue that Ramses didn't exist.
OR
That Ramses wasn't a "god".

Your above argument is that Ramses IS a god but that he didn't exist.

In fact, Ramses DID exist.

Continuing to deny that simple statement will not win you this argument.

Can you state FOR THE RECORD that you agree that Ramses DID in fact exist?

Or is that beyond your ability?

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#5143 Jan 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Exactly
You just contradicted yourself again.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#5144 Jan 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> So tell us where the chromosomal theory of inheritance excludes a transfer of information
by other means outside the genome.
Inheritance means that you are transferring information from parent to offspring. In the case of bacteria, we'll say that the original cell is the "parent" and that after division the other cell is the "offspring" even though which is which is arbitrary.

In the case of LGT, the gene transfer is not happening parent to child. It's not even happening within the same species.

That DIRECTLY conflicts with inheritance.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#5145 Jan 5, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
You are conflating two different arguments and the result is gibberish.
You can EITHER argue that Ramses didn't exist.
OR
That Ramses wasn't a "god".
Your above argument is that Ramses IS a god but that he didn't exist.
In fact, Ramses DID exist.
Continuing to deny that simple statement will not win you this argument.
Can you state FOR THE RECORD that you agree that Ramses DID in fact exist?
Or is that beyond your ability?
Shup nugatory you know exactly what I meant , you also know I'm right. You just like being a whiny little boy slave to Ramses .

Yes Ramses existed and people were mistaking him to be a god.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#5146 Jan 5, 2013
Actually Ramses still exists , but he isn't looking to good. He may want to but some more makeup or something?

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3320/3199873528...

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#5147 Jan 5, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
And I've given you several examples of experiments in which you can disprove something.
You have yet to provide any evidence to negate those examples.
Here's another one:
Claim: Sunlight consists of only one wave length.
Experiment: Shine sunlight thought a prism.
Result: A range of different wave lengths become visible as the light travels through the prism and projects out the other side.
Does that not disprove the claim?
No, you gave examples of how it proves a claim wrong.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#5148 Jan 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Shup nugatory you know exactly what I meant , you also know I'm right. You just like being a whiny little boy slave to Ramses .
Yes Ramses existed and people were mistaking him to be a god.
Settle down. You aren't going to win this by blaming me for slavery. By the way, slavery existed in places other than Egypt.

So, let's review.

You agree that Zeus is a Greek god.
You agree that Thor is a Viking god.
You agree that Vishnu is a Hindu god.
You agree that God is a Christian god.

You also agree that Ramses was a real person and that he really existed.

Does that sum up your position on these things? Or have you changed your mind again?

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#5149 Jan 5, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
No, you gave examples of how it proves a claim wrong.
Yes, and you stated that science can't prove anything wrong.

You can't have it both ways.

Either you admit that the experiment does disprove the claim and therefore you're wrong.

Or you claim that the experiment does not disprove the claim and therefore you are also wrong.

So, which wrong are you?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#5150 Jan 5, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, and you stated that science can't prove anything wrong.
You can't have it both ways.
Either you admit that the experiment does disprove the claim and therefore you're wrong.
Or you claim that the experiment does not disprove the claim and therefore you are also wrong.
So, which wrong are you?
No, I said science doesn't disprove things.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#5151 Jan 5, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
Settle down. You aren't going to win this by blaming me for slavery. By the way, slavery existed in places other than Egypt.
So, let's review.
You agree that Zeus is a Greek god.
You agree that Thor is a Viking god.
You agree that Vishnu is a Hindu god.
You agree that God is a Christian god.
You also agree that Ramses was a real person and that he really existed.
Does that sum up your position on these things? Or have you changed your mind again?
I agree ...

Yes Ramses existed and people were mistaking him to be a god.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#5152 Jan 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> I agree ...
Yes Ramses existed and people were mistaking him to be a god.
Again, you are getting ahead of yourself.

You accept that Thor is a god. Yet you acknowledge that Thor does not ACTUALLY exist.

So, if Thor is a god but doesn't actually exist, then by what criteria is Thor a god?

Is it his ability to cause thunder? No. He doesn't actually have the ability to do that.

Is it his infinite knowledge? No. He doesn't actually have any knowledge since he doesn't actually exist.

Is it his immortality? No. Something that doesn't exist can not be mortal nor immortal.

So, by what criteria can you determine that Thor is a god? And how does that same criteria apply to Vishnu, God, Zeus, etc.

What universal criteria applies to all the members of the list that you just accepted were "gods"?

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