Aliens and evolution

There are 6101 comments on the Washington Times story from Jun 19, 2012, titled Aliens and evolution. In it, Washington Times reports that:

DENTON, Texas, June 19, 2012 - Aliens are ingrained in our cultural psyche. They abound in books, movies, radio, and a thousand theories about the extra-terrestrial, little green men, UFO sightings, abductions, Area 51, and Roswell.

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Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#4689 Dec 19, 2012
-Skeptic- wrote:
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You're so full of sh*t it's painful to watch you attempt to verbally wrangle your way out of your own faulty logic.
Yawn.

Skippy, provide us with a picture of slavery and you win.

Otherwise, admit you were wrong.

LOL! Like that's going to happen.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#4690 Dec 19, 2012
Educated What wrote:
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Again, stay on topic. Ramses made himself a god. I don't need explanations of the rest.
Actually, an individual can't make themselves a god.
They can claim to be a god, but they won't be unless other people believe them.

It's the belief of others that count, not the individual/thing in which they believe.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#4691 Dec 19, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
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You can propose to Ramses , but you will have to ask his mummy.
And.......Since he is already a mummy , you Nuggin will have to play daddy.
You will be the queen of polytheistic mythology!
I take this to mean you've given up the debate and conceded for a 5th and final time.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#4692 Dec 19, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>He would use the same argument about marriage, because it's a "relationship" that only exists in the minds of the two people involved.
Close. Marriage exists in society at large as a concept independent of any two particular people.

You could have a group of people who believe that A and B are married even if A and B themselves do not believe it.

However, if there are no people to consider the concept, then it no longer exists. Wipe out humans and "marriage" goes poof.

“Is that all you've got?”

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#4693 Dec 19, 2012
Nuggin wrote:
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There isn't a sex slave in the world who can present us with a box of slavery.
Just like they can't present us with a box of "freedom" or of "satisfaction".
Slavery isn't a physical thing, it's a condition.
Slavery is a physical condition. When we look at slaves of the past we think, "Why didn't they just walk away?", that it's a submissive attitude they could have decided just as easily not to have. The truth is that they feared physical harm worse than what they were already enduring. The sex slave of today also knows this feeling. The slave is inside the box and so does most of their thinking there. The more fearful, submissive ones end up merely looking forward to not being chained while sleeping in that box. Just surviving, being, is good enough for some captives.

“Is that all you've got?”

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#4694 Dec 19, 2012
Nuggin wrote:
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Actually, an individual can't make themselves a god.
They can claim to be a god, but they won't be unless other people believe them.
It's the belief of others that count, not the individual/thing in which they believe.
True, so far.

“Is that all you've got?”

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#4695 Dec 19, 2012
Nuggin wrote:
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Close. Marriage exists in society at large as a concept independent of any two particular people.
You could have a group of people who believe that A and B are married even if A and B themselves do not believe it.
However, if there are no people to consider the concept, then it no longer exists. Wipe out humans and "marriage" goes poof.
I think that animals that mate for life probably have what could be a "concept" of marriage. I saw a healthy male goose who wouldn't migrate with the rest of the flock because his mate was too sick to fly. Wouldn't instinct tell him to stay with the healthy ones because he had a better chance of survival with them? There's a bond that instinct couldn't break.
As long as there are other animals around after(if) man has gone extinct there is always the possibility that they, too, may develop rituals to enforce those bonds. The concept/condition may continue until the universe once again becomes too homogeneous for life to exist. I think that it is a natural condition that will always result between the sexes.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

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#4696 Dec 19, 2012
Nuggin wrote:
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I take this to mean you've given up the debate and conceded for a 5th and final time.

No I think this means we will never agree ,and you will never win.
Nor will I... as belief like yours , overrules reality ....in your mind. Actuality is never accepted by the eaters of fruit from a poisoned tree. The scientists agree with me , while you belt those with religious thinking. Go Figure...

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

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#4697 Dec 19, 2012
Nuggin wrote:
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Actually, an individual can't make themselves a god.
They can claim to be a god, but they won't be unless other people believe them.
It's the belief of others that count, not the individual/thing in which they believe.
Here is where you really leave reality,
Anyone can be forced to accept what you say under the threat of pain and death. And agree you are a god . Just please stop the torture.

People will agree to anything in the given .

NOPE your Pharaoh is still not a god and never will break free from the myth that he was.

Sucker.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

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#4698 Dec 19, 2012
Nuggin wrote:
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Close. Marriage exists in society at large as a concept independent of any two particular people.
You could have a group of people who believe that A and B are married even if A and B themselves do not believe it.
However, if there are no people to consider the concept, then it no longer exists. Wipe out humans and "marriage" goes poof.
I command thousands of men , I do not try to lie to them on our reasons to achieve an end. Nor that they may die under my command.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#4699 Dec 19, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Slavery is a physical condition.
But that doesn't make it an object.

Just like "old" or "injured" are not objects.

You can't present me with a box of "injured".

You've jumped into the middle of a discussion about vocabulary by trying to assert politics.

No one here is arguing that slavery is good, or permissible, or that it never happened.

Go back a few posts and you'll find Dude's original response to whoever it was and you'll see what's really being discussed.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#4700 Dec 19, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
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No I think this means we will never agree ,and you will never win.
Except that just a page or two ago I listed all my points and you conceded ALL of them.

We don't need to "agree". You've admitted that I am right and you are wrong. About EVERY single point I'm making.

If you want to continue to "disagree" with points you've already conceded, I can't change that. That's just you being childish.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#4701 Dec 19, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Here is where you really leave reality,
Anyone can be forced to accept what you say under the threat of pain and death. And agree you are a god . Just please stop the torture.
I see the problem.

You have no idea what the word "believe" means.

Get a dictionary.

I'd advise you stop posting on an English based forum if English is not a language with which you are proficient.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#4702 Dec 19, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
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I command thousands of men
Anyone can command any number of people.

What counts is whether or not they listen.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

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#4703 Dec 19, 2012
Did you ask your mummy about it yet nuttin?

“Is that all you've got?”

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#4704 Dec 19, 2012
Nuggin wrote:
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But that doesn't make it an object.
Just like "old" or "injured" are not objects.
You can't present me with a box of "injured".
You've jumped into the middle of a discussion about vocabulary by trying to assert politics.
No one here is arguing that slavery is good, or permissible, or that it never happened.
Go back a few posts and you'll find Dude's original response to whoever it was and you'll see what's really being discussed.
No? Objectively, slavery IS an "entity". An entity IS an object....its essence exists.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

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#4705 Dec 19, 2012
Nuggin wrote:
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Except that just a page or two ago I listed all my points and you conceded ALL of them.
We don't need to "agree". You've admitted that I am right and you are wrong. About EVERY single point I'm making.
If you want to continue to "disagree" with points you've already conceded, I can't change that. That's just you being childish.
I never conceded to your insanity that Pharaohs were really gods.
I said I knew you worshiped them as "if" they were gods though.
You thinking they were didn't make them one either nugginson.

“Is that all you've got?”

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#4706 Dec 19, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
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I never conceded to your insanity that Pharaohs were really gods.
I said I knew you worshiped them as "if" they were gods though.
You thinking they were didn't make them one either nugginson.
He may be an ass but he never said that he worshiped them.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

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#4707 Dec 19, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>He may be an ass but he never said that he worshiped them.
Did you think the ancient Egyptians ever stopped believing the Pharaohs were gods?

It happened more than once , but more importantly it shows that belief didn't really make a god. It only makes a belief "of" a god. That's why the status of Pharaoh as "god" is a imaginary concept. It isn't real it rests in a state of stupidity and brainwashing.

Egyptian mythology was a complicated polytheistic mythology in which you would have to be a complete moron to believe.
So since the people themselves didn't always believe Pharaoh was god , then he must have been a part time imaginary god.

I agree we call human god kings "gods" because their totalitarian rule and tyrannical law made them into larger than life and blown up to mythical proportions.

I do not agree in calling them "gods" that they actually were gods because the basis of their power rests in mythology , lies , deceit , fear , and things like genocide and murder of other cultures.

Anyone who cannot differentiate the difference in the concept of belief in a thing being something , and it actually being what some believe it to be. Is mentally bankrupt , and bedazzled by the myth.

“Is that all you've got?”

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#4708 Dec 19, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Did you think the ancient Egyptians ever stopped believing the Pharaohs were gods?
It happened more than once , but more importantly it shows that belief didn't really make a god. It only makes a belief "of" a god. That's why the status of Pharaoh as "god" is a imaginary concept. It isn't real it rests in a state of stupidity and brainwashing.
Egyptian mythology was a complicated polytheistic mythology in which you would have to be a complete moron to believe.
So since the people themselves didn't always believe Pharaoh was god , then he must have been a part time imaginary god.
I agree we call human god kings "gods" because their totalitarian rule and tyrannical law made them into larger than life and blown up to mythical proportions.
I do not agree in calling them "gods" that they actually were gods because the basis of their power rests in mythology , lies , deceit , fear , and things like genocide and murder of other cultures.
Anyone who cannot differentiate the difference in the concept of belief in a thing being something , and it actually being what some believe it to be. Is mentally bankrupt , and bedazzled by the myth.
Maybe the pharaohs were appeasing their subjects with a belief system because they understood that the people liked the way it felt to believe, to transcend their mundane existence.

" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_gene" ;

I don't believe there is a god gene but I believe that thought patterns, repeated constantly can affect how a gene expresses. Desire can do some amazing things to the body.

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