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England 2012

London, UK

#1 Jul 4, 2012
Science had killed god today with the discovery of a new particle today.
RIP GOD

“Reason's Greetings!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#2 Jul 4, 2012
Here's a poll:

Should people stop calling Higgs boson the 'God particle'?
As scientists at Cern have announced that the formerly theoretical Higgs boson actually exists, should its erstwhile nickname, the 'God particle', be dropped?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/poll/...
England 2012

UK

#3 Jul 4, 2012
MrDesoto1 wrote:
Here's a poll:

Should people stop calling Higgs boson the 'God particle'?
As scientists at Cern have announced that the formerly theoretical Higgs boson actually exists, should its erstwhile nickname, the 'God particle', be dropped?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/poll/...
Of course you're right, I can imagine uneducated godbots allover the place taking the name the media, in a Tongue in cheek moment gave this elusive particle & twisting it to try & fit their own crazy pseudo science. I vote for the Darwin/Dawson particle.
KJV

United States

#4 Jul 4, 2012
Foolish claim

"According to the Big Bang, the whole universe started out as a tiny spinning object. This object would have been in a frictionless environment. The Conservation of Angular Momentum tells us that in a frictionless environment, if pieces fly off a spinning object they tend to spin in the same direction. This is due to the fact that the outer part is spinning faster than the inner part. If this whole universe began from the big bang, everything should be spinning the same way. However, everything is not spinning in the same direction. Two of the planets, Venus and Uranus, rotate backwards. Six of the moons in the solar system also rotate backwards...that pretty tough on the big bang theory"

There are also major galaxy spinning the wrong way.

In addition if a spinning signular exploded then all things should be flying away from each other and away from the point of explosion. Our Galaxy and the Andromeda Galaxy are on a collision course that shouldn't be!
Especial after 13.6 billion years things should be far away from each other and getting further apart not closer. And why is the speed of everything flying apart increasing? If it was a big explosion than things should be slowing down just by the pull of gravity. "
England 2012

Hull, UK

#5 Jul 4, 2012
KJV wrote:
Foolish claim

"According to the Big Bang, the whole universe started out as a tiny spinning object. This object would have been in a frictionless environment. The Conservation of Angular Momentum tells us that in a frictionless environment, if pieces fly off a spinning object they tend to spin in the same direction. This is due to the fact that the outer part is spinning faster than the inner part. If this whole universe began from the big bang, everything should be spinning the same way. However, everything is not spinning in the same direction. Two of the planets, Venus and Uranus, rotate backwards. Six of the moons in the solar system also rotate backwards...that pretty tough on the big bang theory"

There are also major galaxy spinning the wrong way.

In addition if a spinning signular exploded then all things should be flying away from each other and away from the point of explosion. Our Galaxy and the Andromeda Galaxy are on a collision course that shouldn't be!
Especial after 13.6 billion years things should be far away from each other and getting further apart not closer. And why is the speed of everything flying apart increasing? If it was a big explosion than things should be slowing down just by the pull of gravity. "
But if the know it all god created everything then why is our galaxy going to be involved in the mother of all pile ups! Mmm
KJV

United States

#6 Jul 4, 2012
England 2012 wrote:
<quoted text>But if the know it all god created everything then why is our galaxy going to be involved in the mother of all pile ups! Mmm
God says he will destroy the earth and rebuild a new earth.

"One, destruction will come by fire, after which He will restore all things. Isaiah 65 v.17-20) speaks of a restored earth, and 2 Peter 3 v.4-14 describes the judgment of fire reserved or kept in store "for the day of judgment."

"Two, the other destruction is described in our text. "Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.(Rev. 21 v.1) New Heaven and a New Earth"
Amused

Lowell, MA

#7 Jul 5, 2012
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
God says he will destroy the earth and rebuild a new earth.
"One, destruction will come by fire, after which He will restore all things. Isaiah 65 v.17-20) speaks of a restored earth, and 2 Peter 3 v.4-14 describes the judgment of fire reserved or kept in store "for the day of judgment."
"Two, the other destruction is described in our text. "Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.(Rev. 21 v.1) New Heaven and a New Earth"
He also said he would return within the lifetimes of his followers, and would answer any prayer a believer made. Not a great track record you've got to go on.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#8 Jul 5, 2012
England 2012 wrote:
Science had killed god today with the discovery of a new particle today.
RIP GOD
that is silly.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#9 Jul 5, 2012
MrDesoto1 wrote:
Here's a poll:
Should people stop calling Higgs boson the 'God particle'?
As scientists at Cern have announced that the formerly theoretical Higgs boson actually exists, should its erstwhile nickname, the 'God particle', be dropped?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/poll/...
I do not recall where I read it, and it was somewhere I followed a topix comment to, so judge the reliability accordingly - but one writer claimed that the scientist who first started investigating this - or one of them - called it the goddamned particle, and that term was nixed.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#10 Jul 5, 2012
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
God says he will destroy the earth and rebuild a new earth.
"One, destruction will come by fire, after which He will restore all things. Isaiah 65 v.17-20) speaks of a restored earth, and 2 Peter 3 v.4-14 describes the judgment of fire reserved or kept in store "for the day of judgment."
"Two, the other destruction is described in our text. "Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.(Rev. 21 v.1) New Heaven and a New Earth"
I assume you are doing all you can to help him (god)do that by electing Republicans with neocon advisers who want to start more wars in the middle east. like Romney's advisers do, for example.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#11 Jul 5, 2012
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
He also said he would return within the lifetimes of his followers, and would answer any prayer a believer made. Not a great track record you've got to go on.
or to be more precise, someone said that He also said... etc. not sure of the author - I think it was committed by a committee, commissioned by a King James a while ago.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#12 Jul 5, 2012
England 2012 wrote:
<quoted text>
But if the know it all god created everything then why is our galaxy going to be involved in the mother of all pile ups! Mmm
first of all, why wouldn't a god enjoy a pile up just like any normal redblooded nascar fan? why assume a god would be nice?

second, how do you know our galaxy is going to be involved in the mother of all pile ups! I thought the galaxies were speeding ever further away from each other. source please.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#13 Jul 5, 2012
source for the bit about the colliding galaxies please.

big bang theory and god theory are not the only two possible explnations for what is. don't know is best answer so far.
KJV wrote:
Foolish claim
"According to the Big Bang, the whole universe started out as a tiny spinning object. This object would have been in a frictionless environment. The Conservation of Angular Momentum tells us that in a frictionless environment, if pieces fly off a spinning object they tend to spin in the same direction. This is due to the fact that the outer part is spinning faster than the inner part. If this whole universe began from the big bang, everything should be spinning the same way. However, everything is not spinning in the same direction. Two of the planets, Venus and Uranus, rotate backwards. Six of the moons in the solar system also rotate backwards...that pretty tough on the big bang theory"
There are also major galaxy spinning the wrong way.
In addition if a spinning signular exploded then all things should be flying away from each other and away from the point of explosion. Our Galaxy and the Andromeda Galaxy are on a collision course that shouldn't be!
Especial after 13.6 billion years things should be far away from each other and getting further apart not closer. And why is the speed of everything flying apart increasing? If it was a big explosion than things should be slowing down just by the pull of gravity. "

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#14 Jul 5, 2012
KJV wrote:
Foolish claim
"According to the Big Bang, the whole universe started out as a tiny spinning object.
Wrong. The Big Bang theory says no such thing.
This object would have been in a frictionless environment. The Conservation of Angular Momentum tells us that in a frictionless environment, if pieces fly off a spinning object they tend to spin in the same direction.
Wrong. You are ignoring the effects of gravity and friction. This can produce differing rotation on multiple size scales.
This is due to the fact that the outer part is spinning faster than the inner part. If this whole universe began from the big bang, everything should be spinning the same way.
False conclusion.
However, everything is not spinning in the same direction. Two of the planets, Venus and Uranus, rotate backwards. Six of the moons in the solar system also rotate backwards...that pretty tough on the big bang theory"
This is the part that boggles my mind when it comes to lack of understanding. To talk about the direction of planetary orbits or rotations when in the context of cosmology is like thinking the rotation of a single atoms shows that there is no ciruclation in a bathroom drain. The size scales are very, very different. Even galaxies are small when discussing cosmology.
There are also major galaxy spinning the wrong way.
In addition if a spinning signular exploded then all things should be flying away from each other and away from the point of explosion.
That is not what the Big Bang claims, though. It was NOT an explosion. It is an expansion of space itself.
Our Galaxy and the Andromeda Galaxy are on a collision course that shouldn't be!
Why not? Local gravity can overwhelm the global expansion.
Especial after 13.6 billion years things should be far away from each other and getting further apart not closer. And why is the speed of everything flying apart increasing? If it was a big explosion than things should be slowing down just by the pull of gravity. "
And that is the only point that actually has some merit. The fact that the expansion is accelerating was a big surprise. Up to that point, people were assuming that the cosmological constant was zero. This shows it is non-zero. A surprise, but hardly a huge change to the overal theory.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#15 Jul 5, 2012
havent forgotten wrote:
source for the bit about the colliding galaxies please.
big bang theory and god theory are not the only two possible explnations for what is. don't know is best answer so far.<quoted text>
There are many examples of colliding galaxies. Here's a picture:

http://hubblesite.org/gallery/album/pr2006046...

It is also true that the Mily Way and the Andromeda spiral are going to collide in a few billion years.

This is no problem for the Big Bang description, however. The local gravity in galactic clusters can overwhelm the expansion of space for galaxies that are 'close'; meaning a few million light years. Because of this gravity, there are 'peculiar motions' on the order of a couple of hundred kilometers per second. The expansion rate is 70 kilometers per second per megaparsec. So, up to a few megaparsecs, the peculiar motion can be larger than the expansion. It can be a significant part of the motion of a galaxy for several megaparsecs.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#16 Jul 5, 2012
England 2012 wrote:
<quoted text>
But if the know it all god created everything then why is our galaxy going to be involved in the mother of all pile ups! Mmm
Two galaxies colliding is hardly 'the mother of all pile ups'. In fact, when galaxies collide, the main effect is new satr formation because the gases get compressed. It is very unlikely that any stars collide.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#17 Jul 6, 2012
Sunofthedesert commented (below the article), "Does the phrase 'god particle' even exist outside of the media?"
Exactly. An example of: "don't report the news, make it up!"
KJV

Brooklyn, NY

#18 Jul 6, 2012
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>He also said he would return within the lifetimes of his followers, and would answer any prayer a believer made. Not a great track record you've got to go on.
Not quite

You must have faith for God to answer your prayer and you might not like the answer.

He still has followers that are alive.
KJV

Brooklyn, NY

#19 Jul 6, 2012
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text>I assume you are doing all you can to help him (god)do that by electing Republicans with neocon advisers who want to start more wars in the middle east. like Romney's advisers do, for example.
No God said he will destroy the earth.
It does not state the man would destroy earth.
KJV

Brooklyn, NY

#20 Jul 6, 2012
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text>source for the bit about the colliding galaxies please.

big bang theory and god theory are not the only two possible explnations for what is. don't know is best answer so far.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/scie...

http://www.haydenplanetarium.org/resources/av...

http://www.slashgear.com/milky-way-and-androm...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda –Milky_Way_collision

The Andromeda–Milky Way collision is a predicted galaxy collision that will take place in approximately 4 billion years' time between the two largest galaxies in the Local Group—the Andromeda Galaxy and the Milky Way, which contains the Solar System and Earth.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/...

Milky Way, Andromeda Galaxy To Collide In 4 Billion Years, NASA Says

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