Atheists on the march in America

Aug 26, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: TurkishPress.com

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Imhotep

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May 26, 2013
 
Dumb as a Stump @John the Robo poster.

Ask Our resident narcissist if he ever had one original thought at any time in his life.

His obsession with topix is quite profound.
Let's keeping him spinning in circles he's good at that. He post about every four hours that's when his erection wears off.
John

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#72241
May 26, 2013
 
You skipped the questions. Ban yourself for inconsequential nonsense.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

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May 26, 2013
 
John wrote:
Seems like now nothing to me. Several irrelevant claims with no evidence though. Lying for nothing. How pathetic.
Ban yourself. Your forum is simply a bunch of theist haters with nothing substantive of your own.
Zero net job gains since Obama took office according to the bureau of labor statistics. Bob has several sacred cows he ignores the facts about. A true freethinker.
Great puppet show today loons.
Lie.

I've proven you are a liar time and time again... yet you persist?

Why?

Oh! You Live to Lie: it's what you Genuine Christholes™ do best.
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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Lie.
I've proven you are a liar time and time again... yet you persist?
Why?
Oh! You Live to Lie: it's what you Genuine Christholes™ do best.
Richard Dawkins is an agnostic.
Wonder how many atheists are actually respect agnostics?

Your many posts seem an attempt to convince
yourself rather than others?

Richard Dawkins - author of The God Delusion - explained during a public discussion at Oxford University, that
he does not think of himself as an atheist,
but rather an agnostic.

Agnostics may outnumber atheists and may be less strident?
Peace!
Imhotep

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Lincoln wrote:
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Richard Dawkins is an agnostic.
Wonder how many atheists are actually respect agnostics?
Your many posts seem an attempt to convince
yourself rather than others?
Richard Dawkins - author of The God Delusion - explained during a public discussion at Oxford University, that
he does not think of himself as an atheist,
but rather an agnostic.
Agnostics may outnumber atheists and may be less strident?
Peace!
It doesn't matter!

Here is what matters...

Christianity: 2.1 billion - 52% RCC
Islam: 1.5 billion

Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/ Atheist: 1.1 billion!
Hinduism: 900 million

Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
Buddhism: 376 million
primal-indigenous: 300 million
African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
Sikhism: 23 million
Juche: 19 million

http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adheren...

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May 26, 2013
 
Imhotep wrote:
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It doesn't matter!
Here is what matters...
Christianity: 2.1 billion - 52% RCC
Islam: 1.5 billion
Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/ Atheist: 1.1 billion!
Hinduism: 900 million
Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
Buddhism: 376 million
primal-indigenous: 300 million
African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
Sikhism: 23 million
Juche: 19 million
http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adheren...
Hey! Lookit that: Atheists/etc OUTNUMBER any given Genuine Christhole™ brand!

Except for possibly the Cat'Licks....

<laughing>
John

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Are you loons in a popularity contest or concerned with evidence?

No evidence. No accountable position. Absolutely nothing as per usual.
John

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Absolutely. Right back at ya. Originally I simply asked the forum what they believed and noted that antitheism is in my experience all too often the default. Being a believer is/was irrelevant. I was accurate and antitheists showed their true colors, lashing out against a God they don't believe in and a God I was not attempting to shove down their throats.
Ruling out possibilities is not freethinking. We don't know what we don't know. Attacking/marginalizing belief isn't intellectually honest when nothing meets the repeatable and observable standard. Four years of no evidence in the atheism forum is enough for me to conclude this. I've asked the question hundreds of times and many claim to have provided it, but that's a lie. No sugarcoating it.
The conversation devolved quickly as (the way I see it) their was a group attack effort to bring this God they seem to hate into the equation. This did not dissuade me as I chose to stay on point. I was clear my intentions were not to make any claims, I was and am simply pointing out intellectual dishonesty.
I continued trying to get the "rules" for evidence after all attempts to get answers to legitimate questions failed. I sought these rules in response to the neverending attacks to further expose the forum. I offered to debate the evidences/reasons I believe in a prime mover vs any accountable position of belief that meets the criteria I was given. This challenge was not accepted. There will be claims otherwise but I guarrantee you won't find what I've asked. Now imagine doing this dance for four years simply because I refuse to debate nothing. I didn't set out to mock simple disbelief, that fine but this isn't that and I think you know it.
Name a subject I get to ask all the questions on and your job is to defend it, over and over and over and over again. How about science? Get my point? It's even more ridiculous considering I've exposed the standard. Remember my question regarding evidence quantification? Never answered relevantly.
Nonbelievers like yourself leave pretty quickly and they should. You may find it glib but what is the point of a forum about nothing? This is an agenda that stifles true freethought.
A simple I don't know...end forum would have sufficed. Now its a game to me to see how many years this forum will be intellectualy dishonest in their fight for nothing.
I appreciate your consideration but I've done this multiple times with decent folk like yourself. I won't debate in front of the kids without the reasonable prerequisites I've asked for. A simple no to my question should have been the response years ago LOL. Back to cut and paste. Yawn.
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
You weren't saying?17
Imhotep

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May 26, 2013
 
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Hey! Lookit that: Atheists/etc OUTNUMBER any given Genuine Christhole™ brand!
Except for possibly the Cat'Licks....
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Mackerel snappers you mean?
I call em the. Popes dopes.

Bob I'm ashamed you!

You should know we out number the Individual branches and denominations of all cults!

You can look at the number for Islam but we're talking degrees of Islam here Sunni versus Shiiite.

So in the larger picture we are ahead... albeit lumped together with many different names, which I prefer to describe as 'the irreligious'.
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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Hey! Lookit that: Atheists/etc OUTNUMBER any given Genuine Christhole™ brand!
Except for possibly the Cat'Licks....
<laughing>
bob, id encourage you to read the list once more. to be honest this isnt even important to me, but as we look at the list of agnostic/atheist/non religious/andsecular, the idea that atheists outnumber any christian denomination is flawed in that it doesnt take into account that nonreligious people can be "spiritual" in their own way, discounting them from the traditional atheist view.just a thought.

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#72250
May 26, 2013
 
John wrote:
I know. The forum is a joke. If atheism is simply disbelief you would list that once and be done. Instead you choose to fight that God you don't believe in and attack the rational believers.
You skipped the questions by the way.
That was the answer.. Then you ignored or didn't like the answer so you called names and demanded an answer... So it was repeated... Reworded... Explained...

If it was answered and you accepted that answer it would be done. You are clearly not satisfied so it continued.

.......... That's why this is still happening...
Imhotep

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May 26, 2013
 
By the way Bob...

Once again my oracles have predicted our ForumFodder©- RaptureReadyResident® troll has injected another dose of Viagra/Cialis, He will be back in 4 hours or less so you can pester him some more. Deep down inside he loves you!

After all you are the object of his attention!

Lol

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May 27, 2013
 
Lincoln wrote:
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Richard Dawkins is an agnostic.
Wonder how many atheists are actually respect agnostics?
Your many posts seem an attempt to convince
yourself rather than others?
Richard Dawkins - author of The God Delusion - explained during a public discussion at Oxford University, that
he does not think of himself as an atheist,
but rather an agnostic.
Agnostics may outnumber atheists and may be less strident?
Peace!
The troll attacks Dawkins once again because he knows he cannot attack atheism.

Why don't you share your stupid beliefs / symptoms of the mental illness of faith = with us:

-Jesus riding on Dinosaues
-But fossils arent real
-Bad things dont happen to good people
-Lying about atheists is ok
-Lying about Evolution is ok
-Being ignorant is ok
-Speaking to yourself while thinking it affects the real world.
-Telling us christians are more moral, while openly lying about god.
-Claiming christians are loving when there are hateful verses in the bible about women, homosexuals and atheists.
-Using politics to further your cult's ignorance on abortion, human rights, death penalty, schools

You people are sick and need help. There should be charities set up to help your poor mentally ill peopel who refuse help time and time again and put society in danger, while taking no responsibility for your actions.
gurswate

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May 27, 2013
 
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March on
Imhotep

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-Skeptic- wrote:
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The troll attacks Dawkins once again because he knows he cannot attack atheism.
Why don't you share your stupid beliefs / symptoms of the mental illness of faith = with us:
-Jesus riding on Dinosaues
-But fossils arent real
-Bad things dont happen to good people
-Lying about atheists is ok
-Lying about Evolution is ok
-Being ignorant is ok
-Speaking to yourself while thinking it affects the real world.
-Telling us christians are more moral, while openly lying about god.
-Claiming christians are loving when there are hateful verses in the bible about women, homosexuals and atheists.
-Using politics to further your cult's ignorance on abortion, human rights, death penalty, schools
You people are sick and need help. There should be charities set up to help your poor mentally ill peopel who refuse help time and time again and put society in danger, while taking no responsibility for your actions.
I believe I can improve your list a little bit!

FIFTEEN IRRITATING, OFFENSIVE and DISRESPECTFUL BEHAVIORS COMMON AMONG THEISTS

[1] Telling us what it is that we believe, especially that we claim that there is no god

[2] Unsolicited (which is all of it) preaching and proselytizing

[3] Referring to atheism as a religion, saying that atheism requires faith, or calling an atheist a fundamentalist

[4] Trying to prove something by quoting the Bible

[5] Threatening nonbelievers with damnation

[6] Pretending that you don't have the burden of proof

[7] Using cut and paste arguments from others that you can't defend

[8] Repeating arguments that have already been refuted and rejected

[9] Saying that we believe nothing, that our lives are without purpose or meaning, or that we have no basis for moral behavior

[10] Announce that you'll be praying for us

[11] Invoking Pascal’s Wager, which says that there is everything to gain and nothing to lose by believing in Jesus. Also, Employing the No True Scotsman fallacy, straw man arguments, and other common fallacies.

[12] Telling us that we can’t or don’t understand the Bible, or that our Christian experiences couldn’t have been authentic if we abandoned them

[13] Saying that we hate your god, are rebelling against your god, or really believe in a god

[14] Misrepresenting science knowledge.

[15] Blaming secularism for the deaths caused by zealous ideologues like Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.
Lincoln

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May 27, 2013
 
-Skeptic- wrote:
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The troll attacks Dawkins once again because he knows he cannot attack atheism.
No attack. Read the article and decide for yourself

Known by many as the world's most famous atheist, Richard Dawkins - author of The God Delusion - explained during a public discussion at Oxford University, that he does not think of himself as an atheist, but rather an agnostic.

The Telegraph reported on Monday that Richard Dawkins - although regularly labeled as one - does not consider himself an atheist.In the open dialogue with Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Rowan Williams, Dawkins also noted that in his book, The God Delusion, he never made the claim that he is certain that God does not exist.
When moderator, Sir Anthony Kennedy, made a remark insinuating that Dawkins had made such an argument, Dawkins quickly jumped in and corrected him.
"No, I don't. I don't. You were wrong when you said that. I constructed in the God Delusion a 7-point scale, of which 1 is 'I know God exists' and 7 is 'I know God doesn't exist' and I called myself a 6."
Kennedy then asked, "Why don't you call yourself an agnostic then?"
Dawkins replied, "I do."
Dawkins then explained that he believes there are gradations of agnosticism. He is of the opinion that there are agnostics who feel that although they cannot know, for sure, whether or not a God exists, they conclude -to their satisfaction - that there is a 50-50 chance there is, or isn't a God. Dawkins emphasized that he is no such agnostic.
Quite certain - although he set forth absolutely no research or statistical evidence to support his claim - Dawkins insists that it is highly improbable that God exists.
"I think the probability of any supernatural creator existing is very, very low, which is why I say I'm a 6.9"
One has to wonder, where does Dawkins derive such a "probability"? If he is so certain, why doesn't he just say he is a 7? What holds him back?
http://www.examiner.com/article/richard-dawki...
John

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May 27, 2013
 
Do you have any evidence that meets the evidentiary standard you hold others accountable to? Yes or no.
How does an atheist decide which is most or least likely? Always was, prime mover, something from nothing. Show your work. You have no problem making statements about probability that's ground in what?
Contrary to your assertation that atheism is simply disbelief I submit to you this forum LOL.
I'll repost something you may have missed.
Your loon friends are going to love Islam.
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May 27, 2013
 
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle ithought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence Bob, Septic, Tinkling,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 69,353 posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

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May 27, 2013
 
John wrote:
Do you have any evidence that meets the evidentiary standard you hold others accountable to? Yes or no.
Evidence of what?
John wrote:
How does an atheist decide which is most or least likely? Always was, prime mover, something from nothing. Show your work.
The same way as anyone else.
John wrote:
You have no problem making statements about probability that's ground in what?
Reality
John wrote:
Contrary to your assertation that atheism is simply disbelief I submit to you this forum LOL.
What is the contradiction?
John wrote:
I'll repost something you may have missed.
Your loon friends are going to love Islam.
I honestly don't understand what you are getting at here. Do you feel the Muslims are going to take over?
John

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#72261
May 27, 2013
 
If you are going to play purposefully obtuse with basic points covered since 2009 that's your choice. In the interim I'll just point and laugh at the forum of nothing that fights tooth and nail against a God they don't believe in. Seems whacko to me. I think I'll stay and see how long this farce will continue.

What is the contradiction? Unbelievable. Oh, any rational freethinker gets that. The forum is prima facie evidence.

Back to the nothing show.*Caution* traveling puppets enroute to Stumpville.

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