Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70638 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Ray

Hightstown, NJ

#72249 May 26, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Hey! Lookit that: Atheists/etc OUTNUMBER any given Genuine Christhole™ brand!
Except for possibly the Cat'Licks....
<laughing>
bob, id encourage you to read the list once more. to be honest this isnt even important to me, but as we look at the list of agnostic/atheist/non religious/andsecular, the idea that atheists outnumber any christian denomination is flawed in that it doesnt take into account that nonreligious people can be "spiritual" in their own way, discounting them from the traditional atheist view.just a thought.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#72250 May 26, 2013
John wrote:
I know. The forum is a joke. If atheism is simply disbelief you would list that once and be done. Instead you choose to fight that God you don't believe in and attack the rational believers.
You skipped the questions by the way.
That was the answer.. Then you ignored or didn't like the answer so you called names and demanded an answer... So it was repeated... Reworded... Explained...

If it was answered and you accepted that answer it would be done. You are clearly not satisfied so it continued.

.......... That's why this is still happening...
Imhotep

Jonesville, SC

#72251 May 26, 2013
By the way Bob...

Once again my oracles have predicted our ForumFodder©- RaptureReadyResident® troll has injected another dose of Viagra/Cialis, He will be back in 4 hours or less so you can pester him some more. Deep down inside he loves you!

After all you are the object of his attention!

Lol

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#72253 May 27, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Richard Dawkins is an agnostic.
Wonder how many atheists are actually respect agnostics?
Your many posts seem an attempt to convince
yourself rather than others?
Richard Dawkins - author of The God Delusion - explained during a public discussion at Oxford University, that
he does not think of himself as an atheist,
but rather an agnostic.
Agnostics may outnumber atheists and may be less strident?
Peace!
The troll attacks Dawkins once again because he knows he cannot attack atheism.

Why don't you share your stupid beliefs / symptoms of the mental illness of faith = with us:

-Jesus riding on Dinosaues
-But fossils arent real
-Bad things dont happen to good people
-Lying about atheists is ok
-Lying about Evolution is ok
-Being ignorant is ok
-Speaking to yourself while thinking it affects the real world.
-Telling us christians are more moral, while openly lying about god.
-Claiming christians are loving when there are hateful verses in the bible about women, homosexuals and atheists.
-Using politics to further your cult's ignorance on abortion, human rights, death penalty, schools

You people are sick and need help. There should be charities set up to help your poor mentally ill peopel who refuse help time and time again and put society in danger, while taking no responsibility for your actions.
gurswate

Pittsburgh, PA

#72254 May 27, 2013
youtube.com/watch... ……
March on
Imhotep

Jonesville, SC

#72255 May 27, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
The troll attacks Dawkins once again because he knows he cannot attack atheism.
Why don't you share your stupid beliefs / symptoms of the mental illness of faith = with us:
-Jesus riding on Dinosaues
-But fossils arent real
-Bad things dont happen to good people
-Lying about atheists is ok
-Lying about Evolution is ok
-Being ignorant is ok
-Speaking to yourself while thinking it affects the real world.
-Telling us christians are more moral, while openly lying about god.
-Claiming christians are loving when there are hateful verses in the bible about women, homosexuals and atheists.
-Using politics to further your cult's ignorance on abortion, human rights, death penalty, schools
You people are sick and need help. There should be charities set up to help your poor mentally ill peopel who refuse help time and time again and put society in danger, while taking no responsibility for your actions.
I believe I can improve your list a little bit!

FIFTEEN IRRITATING, OFFENSIVE and DISRESPECTFUL BEHAVIORS COMMON AMONG THEISTS

[1] Telling us what it is that we believe, especially that we claim that there is no god

[2] Unsolicited (which is all of it) preaching and proselytizing

[3] Referring to atheism as a religion, saying that atheism requires faith, or calling an atheist a fundamentalist

[4] Trying to prove something by quoting the Bible

[5] Threatening nonbelievers with damnation

[6] Pretending that you don't have the burden of proof

[7] Using cut and paste arguments from others that you can't defend

[8] Repeating arguments that have already been refuted and rejected

[9] Saying that we believe nothing, that our lives are without purpose or meaning, or that we have no basis for moral behavior

[10] Announce that you'll be praying for us

[11] Invoking Pascal’s Wager, which says that there is everything to gain and nothing to lose by believing in Jesus. Also, Employing the No True Scotsman fallacy, straw man arguments, and other common fallacies.

[12] Telling us that we can’t or don’t understand the Bible, or that our Christian experiences couldn’t have been authentic if we abandoned them

[13] Saying that we hate your god, are rebelling against your god, or really believe in a god

[14] Misrepresenting science knowledge.

[15] Blaming secularism for the deaths caused by zealous ideologues like Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.
Lincoln

United States

#72256 May 27, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
The troll attacks Dawkins once again because he knows he cannot attack atheism.
No attack. Read the article and decide for yourself

Known by many as the world's most famous atheist, Richard Dawkins - author of The God Delusion - explained during a public discussion at Oxford University, that he does not think of himself as an atheist, but rather an agnostic.

The Telegraph reported on Monday that Richard Dawkins - although regularly labeled as one - does not consider himself an atheist.In the open dialogue with Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Rowan Williams, Dawkins also noted that in his book, The God Delusion, he never made the claim that he is certain that God does not exist.
When moderator, Sir Anthony Kennedy, made a remark insinuating that Dawkins had made such an argument, Dawkins quickly jumped in and corrected him.
"No, I don't. I don't. You were wrong when you said that. I constructed in the God Delusion a 7-point scale, of which 1 is 'I know God exists' and 7 is 'I know God doesn't exist' and I called myself a 6."
Kennedy then asked, "Why don't you call yourself an agnostic then?"
Dawkins replied, "I do."
Dawkins then explained that he believes there are gradations of agnosticism. He is of the opinion that there are agnostics who feel that although they cannot know, for sure, whether or not a God exists, they conclude -to their satisfaction - that there is a 50-50 chance there is, or isn't a God. Dawkins emphasized that he is no such agnostic.
Quite certain - although he set forth absolutely no research or statistical evidence to support his claim - Dawkins insists that it is highly improbable that God exists.
"I think the probability of any supernatural creator existing is very, very low, which is why I say I'm a 6.9"
One has to wonder, where does Dawkins derive such a "probability"? If he is so certain, why doesn't he just say he is a 7? What holds him back?
http://www.examiner.com/article/richard-dawki...
John

United States

#72258 May 27, 2013
Do you have any evidence that meets the evidentiary standard you hold others accountable to? Yes or no.
How does an atheist decide which is most or least likely? Always was, prime mover, something from nothing. Show your work. You have no problem making statements about probability that's ground in what?
Contrary to your assertation that atheism is simply disbelief I submit to you this forum LOL.
I'll repost something you may have missed.
Your loon friends are going to love Islam.
3
John

United States

#72259 May 27, 2013
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle ithought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence Bob, Septic, Tinkling,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 69,353 posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#72260 May 27, 2013
John wrote:
Do you have any evidence that meets the evidentiary standard you hold others accountable to? Yes or no.
Evidence of what?
John wrote:
How does an atheist decide which is most or least likely? Always was, prime mover, something from nothing. Show your work.
The same way as anyone else.
John wrote:
You have no problem making statements about probability that's ground in what?
Reality
John wrote:
Contrary to your assertation that atheism is simply disbelief I submit to you this forum LOL.
What is the contradiction?
John wrote:
I'll repost something you may have missed.
Your loon friends are going to love Islam.
I honestly don't understand what you are getting at here. Do you feel the Muslims are going to take over?
John

United States

#72261 May 27, 2013
If you are going to play purposefully obtuse with basic points covered since 2009 that's your choice. In the interim I'll just point and laugh at the forum of nothing that fights tooth and nail against a God they don't believe in. Seems whacko to me. I think I'll stay and see how long this farce will continue.

What is the contradiction? Unbelievable. Oh, any rational freethinker gets that. The forum is prima facie evidence.

Back to the nothing show.*Caution* traveling puppets enroute to Stumpville.
John

United States

#72262 May 27, 2013
Another day of ineptitude from the antitheists.*Note to lurkers* They have gone almost four years without giving one accountable position they are willing to debate. Four years without an example of evidence that meets their criteria for evidence. These are angry agenda driven folks that don't give a damn about the evidence.
If you want to subject yourself to this farce by all means see for yourself. Antitheists you could also just cut and paste one of the 69,350 posts to show otherwise.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. True
science that is repeatable and observable.
Imhotep

Union Mills, NC

#72263 May 27, 2013
very bright wrote:
<quoted text>
If you really believed there is no God, none of this would bother you in the least. Thanks for letting us know how concerned you are that you are wrong.
Okay dimbulb here's your chance to be a hero!

Provide evidence that your God is the only true God in a way that religions other than yours cannot do.

Provide evidence that your holy book is true in a way that religions other than yours cannot do with theirs.

Until this time, and it will be an eternity - you are only one of many religious cult members - each claiming more or less the same immortality or enlightenment as others.

We do appreciate you sharing your mythology.
Imhotep

Union Mills, NC

#72264 May 27, 2013
very bright wrote:
<quoted text>
If you really believed there is no God, none of this would bother you in the least. Thanks for letting us know how concerned you are that you are wrong.
Whatever it is that is eating you, it must be suffering horribly.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#72265 May 27, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Mackerel snappers you mean?
I call em the. Popes dopes.
Bob I'm ashamed you!
You should know we out number the Individual branches and denominations of all cults!
You can look at the number for Islam but we're talking degrees of Islam here Sunni versus Shiiite.
So in the larger picture we are ahead... albeit lumped together with many different names, which I prefer to describe as 'the irreligious'.
I see it as progress.

And I "blame" the interwebs as much as anything.

The theory of crowd-sourcing is that with a large enough pool of people to draw on, most information tends to be reasonably accurate.

If you filter out the fact that the religious are typically too stupid to utilize technology very well?(religion requires ignorance, which is anti-technology)

Then the internet is skewed towards the non-religious for the most part.

With that skew, and with the crowd-source theory going? The majority of the internet is reasonably free from bullshyt.

Meaning? It's more or less not religious.

And that is a powerful tool to convince the rising generations that religion simply doesn't have any useful function any longer.

So more and more folk aren't religious-- and grow up free from the ravages of brain-damage(faith).

This is a good thing-- progress.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#72266 May 27, 2013
Ray wrote:
<quoted text>
bob, id encourage you to read the list once more.
I did.

If you consider that within "christian/cat'lick" there are MORE THAN 45,000 DIFFERENT BRANDS?

It's even MORE dramatic!

Because there would not BE so many brands, unless there were NO GODS BEHIND ANY.

Why?

Because of this: Assume that ONE (1) brand of "christian" has a REAL god behind it.

What would the results be?

Since that brand would *literally* be guided and supported by .. a frikkin GOD?

That brand would quickly overwhelm the other brands-- absorbing the nearest ones quickly, as they could not compete--not having a god for support.

Within a very short time? There would be only ONE (1) brand left-- the one with the REAL GOD behind it.

All the others, having been absorbed or disbanded for want of members.

Is this the case?

No?

Interesting.... I'll let YOU figure out the consequences...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#72267 May 27, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
By the way Bob...
Once again my oracles have predicted our ForumFodder©- RaptureReadyResident® troll has injected another dose of Viagra/Cialis, He will be back in 4 hours or less so you can pester him some more. Deep down inside he loves you!
After all you are the object of his attention!
Lol
LMAO!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#72268 May 27, 2013
very bright wrote:
<quoted text>
If you really believed there is no God, none of this would bother you in the least. Thanks for letting us know how concerned you are that you are wrong.
It does not bother us.

Except: that you BIGOTS keep passing BIGOT-LAWS because of your ugly, hate-cult.

For example: under purely SECULAR law? Gays would have the same rights to marry, have kids, etc, as anyone else-- there wouldn't even be a distinction.

But NOT under you BIGOTS.

Another example: contraceptives would be cheap and easy to get-- vending machines in every high school, for example. Sex would NOT be seen as "dirty"-- but strong prohibitions to NOT pass on STD's would exist instead-- and free medical clinics--no questions asked-- for anyone needing help with an STD.

But NOT under you BIGOTS-- you think sex is "icky" or something. Or worse: you people condone Preachers/Priests to diddle LITTLE KIDS, and GET AWAY WITH IT TOO. Ugg.

Another example: under SECULAR society, women and men would just be people and people-- no need for arbitrary distinctions. At all.

But NOT under you BIGOTS-- you think women are somehow "second class" and should "be submissive to their husbands" and other bullsht.

So yeah...

.... YOU BOTHER US.

A LOT.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#72269 May 27, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever it is that is eating you, it must be suffering horribly.
It's a mental disease. The god-virus is strong in that one.

It has eaten nearly all of his brains, too...

.... kind of like a virtual zombie.... now that I think of it.

;)
Ray

Hightstown, NJ

#72270 May 27, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
I did.
If you consider that within "christian/cat'lick" there are MORE THAN 45,000 DIFFERENT BRANDS?
It's even MORE dramatic!
Because there would not BE so many brands, unless there were NO GODS BEHIND ANY.
Why?
Because of this: Assume that ONE (1) brand of "christian" has a REAL god behind it.
What would the results be?
Since that brand would *literally* be guided and supported by .. a frikkin GOD?
That brand would quickly overwhelm the other brands-- absorbing the nearest ones quickly, as they could not compete--not having a god for support.
Within a very short time? There would be only ONE (1) brand left-- the one with the REAL GOD behind it.
All the others, having been absorbed or disbanded for want of members.
Is this the case?
No?
Interesting.... I'll let YOU figure out the consequences...
i think the idea that God only supports one denomination is off somewhat. its kinda like the fda approving different meds with the same result. the idea is that humans tend to emphasize ideas that they hold dear, while still staying within a christian framework. so its only natural that we would have branching off in something that can be really complex. if God only cares about salvation through christ, all the denominations that claim that have Gods support. the rest is just superficial. i think we place to much emphasis on that and start to create false delemas when it really isnt the case.

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