Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70634 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#72107 May 18, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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Avatar?
I don't see any avatars use iPhone
What else am I missing?
Btw
Bill Maher and Michael Moore both tore into Republicans over the GOP-led House voting for the 37th time to repeal Obamacare. Maher rolled his eyes and argued that "at some point, obstruction becomes... treason." Moore agreed, going so far as to say that Republicans "hate America."
Maher pointed to Republicans blocking major Obama appointments, saying that now the opposition is "more about hating [Obama] than loving your country." Moore unloaded on the GOP and argued that they have seriously sinister motives for opposing everything Obama does.
"I think these conservatives and right-wingers really-for as much as they say they love this country-they hate it. They hate the government. They hate people... why is the government the big, evil bastard here?"
Maher mockingly intoned, ""Cause, Mike, it got taken over by a Kenyan socialist, that's why!"
Moore did find a grain of optimism in young people rejecting a lot of what the Republican party believes in, saying "they're not bigots and they're not haters." He called the GOP a mere "squealing dinosaur" whose time has come.
On my Facebook feed, I saw that Moore was going to be on Mahar's show. I do not have ST, so I missed it, but will likely watch it on-line when it becomes available.

I agree with them-- the current ReThugs cannot continue; something will break eventually.

I just hope it's not the Country that does the breaking... that has happened in the past, if you remember from History. More than once (the country breaking, I mean)
KJV

United States

#72108 May 19, 2013
John wrote:
In your time away your forum did what you just did- nothing.

Atheism is simply disbelief LOL.
So am I an atheist because I disbelief in the Big Bang?

I also believe the Big Bang didn't happen. I at least realize my positive assertion of believing that the Big Bang is false.
KJV

United States

#72109 May 19, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>No proof of god = lying theist = all theists
Look who is talking about lying!

Remember this big lie?
-Skeptic- wrote:
Goodbye everyone. I hope you all find yourselves out there whatever you are looking for. I will however be taking retirement.

There's no such thing as god, there never has and there never will be.

I am changing the password to my account so will not be using it anymore, but it will still be there, preserving all the conversation.

If you want to contact me, you can leave your email in this thread.

Bye!
Imhotep

Orlando, FL

#72110 May 19, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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According to 2 Chronicles 21:20 (King James Version)
"Thirty and two years old was he when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem eight years, and departed without being desired. Howbeit they buried him in the city of David, but not in the sepulchres of the kings."
The above verses say the Father of Ahaziah died at 40 years of age.
But according to Chronicles 22:1-2 (King James Version)
it says
"1And the inhabitants of Jerusalem made Ahaziah his youngest son king in his stead: for the band of men that came with the Arabians to the camp had slain all the eldest. So Ahaziah the son of Jehoram king of Judah reigned.
2Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri."
According to the above verses Ahaziah was 42 years old. The verses clearly mention he was made king after the death of his father.
How can the son be 2 years older than his father?
When dabbling in superstition virtualy anything is possible. You're only limited by your imagination!

The larger question to ask oneself it one was religious...

Why would a perfect being entrust its most vital words to mankind - to primitive people who could not understand them?

With over 1200 Christian organizations, the USA has a greater number of Jesus fan clubs than any other country in the world. The proliferation of variegated brands of Christianity in America is so extreme that it acquires a comic dimension. One might discern only a subtle difference in name between, say, the "Evangelical Congregational Church" and the "Evangelical Covenant Church", or the "Church of God in Christ" and "Church of Christ" but miss a gulf of doctrinal distinction.

But then, who is bothered about doctrine anyway? Denominations, a source of so much anguish and bloodshed in the past, have diminishing importance in the era of evangelical psychosis, mega-churches and apocalyptic blockbusters. The important thing is to "have religion". "With religion" you are a patriot, defending the American way of life; without religion you are a subversive radical, an enemy.

Christianity USA is all show business and emotional razzmatazz. Organised as international corporations, with a globalised "mission" of subsidiary offices, its product is propaganda, pouring in prodigious quantity from a network of TV and radio stations and publishing houses. The intent is to draw further millions into the mass of devotees.

http://jesusneverexisted.com/sheep.html
Thinking

Poole, UK

#72111 May 19, 2013
Everything we have discovered has turned out to be not magic.
John wrote:
Magic science!
John

United States

#72112 May 20, 2013
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle ithought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence Bob, Septic, Tinkling,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 69,220 posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!
John

United States

#72113 May 20, 2013
Another day of ineptitude from the antitheists.*Note to lurkers* They have gone almost four years without giving one accountable position they are willing to debate. Four years without an example of evidence that meets their criteria for evidence. These are angry agenda driven folks that don't give a damn about the evidence.
If you want to subject yourself to this farce by all means see for yourself. Antitheists you could also just cut and paste one of the 69,220 posts to show otherwise.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. True
science that is repeatable and observable.
John

United States

#72114 May 20, 2013
Absolutely. Right back at ya. Originally I simply asked the forum what they believed and noted that antitheism is in my experience all too often the default. Being a believer is/was irrelevant. I was accurate and antitheists showed their true colors, lashing out against a God they don't believe in and a God I was not attempting to shove down their throats.
Ruling out possibilities is not freethinking. We don't know what we don't know. Attacking/marginalizing belief isn't intellectually honest when nothing meets the repeatable and observable standard. Four years of no evidence in the atheism forum is enough for me to conclude this. I've asked the question hundreds of times and many claim to have provided it, but that's a lie. No sugarcoating it.
The conversation devolved quickly as (the way I see it) their was a group attack effort to bring this God they seem to hate into the equation. This did not dissuade me as I chose to stay on point. I was clear my intentions were not to make any claims, I was and am simply pointing out intellectual dishonesty.
I continued trying to get the "rules" for evidence after all attempts to get answers to legitimate questions failed. I sought these rules in response to the neverending attacks to further expose the forum. I offered to debate the evidences/reasons I believe in a prime mover vs any accountable position of belief that meets the criteria I was given. This challenge was not accepted. There will be claims otherwise but I guarrantee you won't find what I've asked. Now imagine doing this dance for four years simply because I refuse to debate nothing. I didn't set out to mock simple disbelief, that fine but this isn't that and I think you know it.
Name a subject I get to ask all the questions on and your job is to defend it, over and over and over and over again. How about science? Get my point? It's even more ridiculous considering I've exposed the standard. Remember my question regarding evidence quantification? Never answered relevantly.
Nonbelievers like yourself leave pretty quickly and they should. You may find it glib but what is the point of a forum about nothing? This is an agenda that stifles true freethought.
A simple I don't know...end forum would have sufficed. Now its a game to me to see how many years this forum will be intellectualy dishonest in their fight for nothing.
I appreciate your consideration but I've done this multiple times with decent folk like yourself. I won't debate in front of the kids without the reasonable prerequisites I've asked for. A simple no to my question should have been the response years ago LOL. Back to cut and paste. Yawn.
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
You weren't saying?13
John

United States

#72115 May 20, 2013
I contend the preponderance of evidence lies on the side of a prime mover vs any other accountable position of belief. Your entire forum is a nothing farce. I love watching you fight so hard for a supposed nonclaim.
Your whole narrative is reliant on God to have a voice. Logic and rationality are lost on liberal atheists. Do you have an example of evidence that meets the criteria you hold others accountable to?
How does a bigot measure the evidence for the following possibilities: prime mover, always was, something from nothing. Show your work.
You can't even make up an accountable position to debate vs a prime mover. The reason your forum won't engage is they realize just how futile their nonposition is.
Debate nothing with your other personalities. I don't debate nothing Stumpy.;7
John

United States

#72116 May 20, 2013
Zero net jobs since Obama took office.
Spending at all time highs.
Unconstitutional overreaches almost daily.
Policies that endanger our physical and financial future.
Disgusting thug tactics aimed at the citizenry.

You cheerlead for your own servitude. Keep pushing.
xianity is EVIL

Walton, Canada

#72117 May 20, 2013
John wrote:
I contend the preponderance of evidence lies on the side of a prime mover vs any other accountable position of belief. Your entire forum is a nothing farce. I love watching you fight so hard for a supposed nonclaim.
Your whole narrative is reliant on God to have a voice. Logic and rationality are lost on liberal atheists. Do you have an example of evidence that meets the criteria you hold others accountable to?
How does a bigot measure the evidence for the following possibilities: prime mover, always was, something from nothing. Show your work.
You can't even make up an accountable position to debate vs a prime mover. The reason your forum won't engage is they realize just how futile their nonposition is.
Debate nothing with your other personalities. I don't debate nothing Stumpy.;7
come back when youre sober,Stumpy!
John

United States

#72118 May 20, 2013
Another substance free bigot post. Welcome to Stumpville. Home of anti-American radicals and nothing promoters.
Thinking

Poole, UK

#72119 May 20, 2013
Will Topix still be around in 20 years when John sobers up?
xianity is EVIL wrote:
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come back when youre sober,Stumpy!
John

United States

#72120 May 20, 2013
Will science find the gene that compels you to fight for your nothing year after year after year?
Imhotep

Orlando, FL

#72121 May 20, 2013
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OBAMA DENIES ROLE IN GOVERNMENT

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—President Obama used his weekly radio address on Saturday to reassure the American people that he has “played no role whatsoever” in the U.S. government over the past four years.

“Right now, many of you are angry at the government, and no one is angrier than I am,” he said.“Quite frankly, I am glad that I have had no involvement in such an organization.”

The President’s outrage only increased, he said, when he “recently became aware of a part of that government called the Department of Justice.”

“The more I learn about the activities of these individuals, the more certain I am that I would not want to be associated with them,” he said.“They sound like bad news.”

Mr. Obama closed his address by indicating that beginning next week he would enforce what he called a “zero tolerance policy on governing.”

“If I find that any members of my Administration have had any intimate knowledge of, or involvement in, the workings of the United States government, they will be dealt with accordingly,” he said.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#72122 May 20, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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OBAMA DENIES ROLE IN GOVERNMENT
WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—President Obama used his weekly radio address on Saturday to reassure the American people that he has “played no role whatsoever” in the U.S. government over the past four years.
“Right now, many of you are angry at the government, and no one is angrier than I am,” he said.“Quite frankly, I am glad that I have had no involvement in such an organization.”
The President’s outrage only increased, he said, when he “recently became aware of a part of that government called the Department of Justice.”
“The more I learn about the activities of these individuals, the more certain I am that I would not want to be associated with them,” he said.“They sound like bad news.”
Mr. Obama closed his address by indicating that beginning next week he would enforce what he called a “zero tolerance policy on governing.”
“If I find that any members of my Administration have had any intimate knowledge of, or involvement in, the workings of the United States government, they will be dealt with accordingly,” he said.
ZeroBama wants more shield laws to stop him from doing shit to people.

Sara Palin can see Michelle Obama's ass from her front porch.
Imhotep

Orlando, FL

#72123 May 20, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Will Topix still be around in 20 years when John sobers up?
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John who?
Imhotep

Orlando, FL

#72124 May 20, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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ZeroBama wants more shield laws to stop him from doing shit to people.
Sara Palin can see Michelle Obama's ass from her front porch.
Sarah Palin is certifiable

SANFORD’S COMEBACK GIVES HOPE TO LIARS

CHARLESTON, S.C.(The Borowitz Report)—Former South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford’s stunning upset in a special congressional election on Tuesday served as an inspiration to liars across the state and beyond, prominent members of the lying community said tonight.

“In America, liars are always made to feel bad about ourselves, as if what we’re doing is wrong,” said Harland Dorrinson, fifty-seven, a liar from suburban Charleston.“Mark Sanford’s victory tonight is a victory for the lying lifestyle.”

Carol Foyler, thirty-six, a liar from Myrtle Beach, echoed those sentiments:“For the millions of dishonest children across America, tonight Mark Sanford has given them hope that someday, they can be somebody.”

At his victory rally in Charleston, the former governor acknowledged the liars in the audience and said that his victory sent an important message:“Every lie, no matter how big or small, has value.”

“As your Governor, I abused your trust. And as God is my witness, as your congressman, I will abuse it again,” he said, to thunderous applause.

Mr. Sanford, who had been behind in the polls in the waning weeks of the race, owed much of his last-minute surge to the support of the lying community, exit polls showed.

According to those exit polls, Mr. Sanford held a three-to-one lead among voters who described themselves as liars, cheaters, or sleazebags.

Furthermore, the polls showed, those same voters felt that Mr. Sanford’s opponent, Elizabeth Colbert Busch, did not have the lying experience necessary to serve in Congress.
Thinking

Poole, UK

#72125 May 21, 2013
Good point.
Imhotep wrote:
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John who?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#72126 May 21, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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ZeroBama wants more shield laws to stop him from doing shit to people.
Sara Palin can see Michelle Obama's ass from her front porch.
More worthless creationist opinion.

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