Atheists on the march in America

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When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Imhotep

United States

#71413 Apr 18, 2013
Thinking wrote:
John is a massive tw*t.
The godless world rolls on oblivious to his lack of consent.
<quoted text>
He thrives on attention like a little child
I refuse to pander to his Advanced narcissism

I find those that actually respond to him amusing in the extreme.

"The beauty of religious mania is that it has the power to explain everything. Once God (or Satan) is accepted as the first cause of everything which happens in the mortal world, nothing is left to chance...logic can be happily tossed out the window." ~Stephen King

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#71414 Apr 18, 2013
I apologize for posting the same post twice. My computer was telling me that the first one had not been sent.
Lincoln

United States

#71415 Apr 18, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
He thrives on attention like a little child
I refuse to pander to his Advanced narcissism
I find those that actually respond to him amusing in the extreme.
"The beauty of religious mania is that it has the power to explain everything. Once God (or Satan) is accepted as the first cause of everything which happens in the mortal world, nothing is left to chance...logic can be happily tossed out the window." ~Stephen King
Northing regarding atheism
but Stephen King sold out a long time ago.
Prefer Charles Dickens

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#71416 Apr 18, 2013
boooots wrote:
I apologize for posting the same post twice. My computer was telling me that the first one had not been sent.
sometimes the longer posts take a while. no worries, double posts disappear shortly...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#71417 Apr 18, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Northing regarding atheism
but Stephen King sold out a long time ago.
Prefer Charles Dickens
how did King 'sell out'?
Imhotep

United States

#71418 Apr 18, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>how did King 'sell out'?
He sold out many many books most of which became movies

King has made millions off his very vivid imagination

I've enjoyed most of his material

Err. Your quote for the day ;)

“The Bible is not the verbally inspired, inerrant word of God; it is just a collection of contradictory, discrepant books that were written by superstitious ethnocentrics who thought that the hand of God was directing the destiny of the Hebrew people.”~Farrell Till (former minister and missionary for the Church of Christ)

Take us out Kurt

"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile." ~Kurt Vonnegut

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#71419 Apr 18, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
He sold out many many books most of which became movies
King has made millions off his very vivid imagination
I've enjoyed most of his material
Err. Your quote for the day ;)
“The Bible is not the verbally inspired, inerrant word of God; it is just a collection of contradictory, discrepant books that were written by superstitious ethnocentrics who thought that the hand of God was directing the destiny of the Hebrew people.”~Farrell Till (former minister and missionary for the Church of Christ)
Take us out Kurt
"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile." ~Kurt Vonnegut
I have found that some of the movies did not do justice to his books. He has been one of my favorite writers though I haven't read any recently.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#71420 Apr 18, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
He sold out many many books most of which became movies
King has made millions off his very vivid imagination
I've enjoyed most of his material
Err. Your quote for the day ;)
“The Bible is not the verbally inspired, inerrant word of God; it is just a collection of contradictory, discrepant books that were written by superstitious ethnocentrics who thought that the hand of God was directing the destiny of the Hebrew people.”~Farrell Till (former minister and missionary for the Church of Christ)
Take us out Kurt
"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile." ~Kurt Vonnegut
is making movies selling out? is making money off your talent selling out?

i'm not clear on this terminology...
Imhotep

United States

#71421 Apr 18, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>is making movies selling out? is making money off
your talent selling out?
i'm not clear on this terminology...
No I don't think he sold out !
that was a play on words ;)

You and I should be so lucky as to have "sold out " Like Stephen $$$$$$$$$$

Did they say money can't buy happiness?
I've always maintained it can rented indefinitely.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#71422 Apr 18, 2013
Thinking wrote:
If I had some way of defaulting on paying maybe I would visit.
I wouldn't give those child abusers a penny.
<quoted text>
Wasn't one of the backers arrested for tax fraud?

In direct violation of his Jesus' command to >>pay<< taxes (render unto Caesar's what is Caesar's)...

... hypocrites, the whole lot.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#71423 Apr 18, 2013
boooots wrote:
I apologize for posting the same post twice. My computer was telling me that the first one had not been sent.
Topix will do that, and then? In an instant, the duplicate vanishes.

Blame it on Al Gore, if you like.

:D

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#71424 Apr 18, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
No I don't think he sold out !
that was a play on words ;)
You and I should be so lucky as to have "sold out " Like Stephen $$$$$$$$$$
Did they say money can't buy happiness?
I've always maintained it can rented indefinitely.
Indeed... money can also buy you quite a number of temporary friends... who will loyally stick around until the last of the money is spent, too.

:D

Money can also buy you a Government-- that is, if you have sufficient piles of the stuff.

For proof, I submit the entire Republican Party, and Most of the Democratic party, in the USA.

;)
Lincoln

United States

#71425 Apr 18, 2013
Had the Day off with pay, to watch President Obama at interfaith ceremony.
Very moving.
Proud to an American
John

United States

#71426 Apr 18, 2013
@ Booots- While your post may be heartfelt the obvious antitheism in this forum is where you should be directing your message. You don't believe. End forum.

What do you believe?(origin) Just what the heck are you marching for?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#71427 Apr 18, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
No I don't think he sold out !
that was a play on words ;)
You and I should be so lucky as to have "sold out " Like Stephen $$$$$$$$$$
Did they say money can't buy happiness?
I've always maintained it can rented indefinitely.
money cannot buy happiness, but crying in a mercedes sure beats crying in a 1980 omni 024
John

United States

#71428 Apr 18, 2013
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle ithought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence Bob, Septic, Tinkling,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 68,560 posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!
John

United States

#71429 Apr 18, 2013
Absolutely. Right back at ya. Originally I simply asked the forum what they believed and noted that antitheism is in my experience all too often the default. Being a believer is/was irrelevant. I was accurate and antitheists showed their true colors, lashing out against a God they don't believe in and a God I was not attempting to shove down their throats.
Ruling out possibilities is not freethinking. We don't know what we don't know. Attacking/marginalizing belief isn't intellectually honest when nothing meets the repeatable and observable standard. Four years of no evidence in the atheism forum is enough for me to conclude this. I've asked the question hundreds of times and many claim to have provided it, but that's a lie. No sugarcoating it.
The conversation devolved quickly as (the way I see it) their was a group attack effort to bring this God they seem to hate into the equation. This did not dissuade me as I chose to stay on point. I was clear my intentions were not to make any claims, I was an am.simply pointing out intellectual dishonesty.
I continued trying to get the "rules" for evidence after all attempts to get answers to legitiamate questions failed. I sought these rules in response to the neverending attacks to further expose the forum. I offered to debate the evidences/reasons I believe in a prime mover vs any accountable position of belief that meets the criteria I was given. This challenge was not accepted. There will be claims otherwise but I guarrantee you won't find what I've asked. Now imagine doing this dance for four years simply because I refuse to debate nothing. I didn't set out to mock simple disbelief, that fine but this isn't that and I think you know it.
Name a subject I get to ask all the questions on and your job is to defend it, over and over and over and over again. How about science? Get my point? It's even more ridiculous considering I've exposed the standard. Remember my question regarding evidence quantification? Never answered relevantly.
Nonbelievers like yourself leave pretty quickly and they should. You may find it glib but what is the point of a forum about nothing? This is an agenda that stifles true freethought.
A simple I don't know...end forum would have sufficed. Now its a game to me to see how many years this forum will be intellectualy dishonest in their fight for nothing.
I appreciate your consideration but I've done this multiple times with decent folk like yourself. I won't debate in front of the kids without the reasonable prerequisites I've asked for. A simple no to my question should have been the response years ago LOL. Back to cut and paste. Yawn.
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
*not sure how you keep missing this booots
John

United States

#71430 Apr 18, 2013
No they are fighting/lashing out at God. Most of them. This forum has gone on for years and it happens with or without me. You think simple disbelief has carried the forum in all its venom this long? The evidence speaks otherwise. Speaking of evidence. Do you have any in this arena you hold others accountable to?
I've already exposed your standard of evidence yet you want ME to provide YOU evidence in your forum. Let me guess you'll be the arbiter. Your forum insists on fighting God, you can't stay away from him. I've made it clear, apparently you don't read my posts that I don't debate nothing. God is merely an axe and diversion created by loons to mask their nothing agenda.
You've made the claim there is no God so prove it. That's your deal and problem whether its impossible or not. I've offered to debate the evidences/reasons I believe in a prime mover vs any accountable position of belief you want to make a case for. You have failed miserably. Not my problem.
Regurgitating tired nonpoints despite four years of me being clear makes it obvious you have no intention of doing anything other than projecting. Nothing certainly is not the answer.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. 00
John

United States

#71431 Apr 18, 2013
Another day of ineptitude from the antitheists.*Note to lurkers* They have gone almost four years without giving one accountable position they are willing to debate. Four years without an example of evidence that meets their criteria for evidence. These are angry agenda driven folks that don't give a damn about the evidence.
If you want to subject yourself to this farce by all means see for yourself. Antitheists you could also just cut and paste one of the 68,571 posts to show otherwise.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. True
science that is repeatable and observable.
Thinking

Ashford, UK

#71432 Apr 18, 2013
I don't know. They're not big news in the UK. I would like them to pay their due taxes, though.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Wasn't one of the backers arrested for tax fraud?
In direct violation of his Jesus' command to >>pay<< taxes (render unto Caesar's what is Caesar's)...
... hypocrites, the whole lot.

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