Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70645 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Thinking

Aberdeen, UK

#71264 Apr 15, 2013
But enough about you, typotard...
John wrote:
Intellectual cowardice, hypocrisy, impotent attacks, ridiculous smugness, exposed evidentiary standard, lack of depth, magic science, fear of accountability, bizzare behavior in general.
John

United States

#71265 Apr 15, 2013
It might as well say Christian attackers on the march. You loons do like to skip steps right to your agenda. Would you like to debate your nothing vs my something? Thought not.
John

United States

#71266 Apr 15, 2013
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle ithought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence Bob, Septic, Tinkling,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 68,440 posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!
John

United States

#71267 Apr 15, 2013
No they are fighting/lashing out at God. Most of them. This forum has gone on for years and it happens with or without me. You think simple disbelief has carried the forum in all its venom this long? The evidence speaks otherwise. Speaking of evidence. Do you have any in this arena you hold others accountable to?
I've already exposed your standard of evidence yet you want ME to provide YOU evidence in your forum. Let me guess you'll be the arbiter. Your forum insists on fighting God, you can't stay away from him. I've made it clear, apparently you don't read my posts that I don't debate nothing. God is merely an axe and diversion created by loons to mask their nothing agenda.
You've made the claim there is no God so prove it. That's your deal and problem whether its impossible or not. I've offered to debate the evidences/reasons I believe in a prime mover vs any accountable position of belief you want to make a case for. You have failed miserably. Not my problem.
Regurgitating tired nonpoints despite four years of me being clear makes it obvious you have no intention of doing anything other than projecting. Nothing certainly is not the answer.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. 7
John

United States

#71268 Apr 15, 2013
Absolutely. Right back at ya. Originally I simply asked the forum what they believed and noted that antitheism is in my experience all too often the default. Being a believer is/was irrelevant. I was accurate and antitheists showed their true colors, lashing out against a God they don't believe in and a God I was not attempting to shove down their throats.
Ruling out possibilities is not freethinking. We don't know what we don't know. Attacking/marginalizing belief isn't intellectually honest when nothing meets the repeatable and observable standard. Four years of no evidence in the atheism forum is enough for me to conclude this. I've asked the question hundreds of times and many claim to have provided it, but that's a lie. No sugarcoating it.
The conversation devolved quickly as (the way I see it) their was a group attack effort to bring this God they seem to hate into the equation. This did not dissuade me as I chose to stay on point. I was clear my intentions were not to make any claims, I was an am.simply pointing out intellectual dishonesty.
I continued trying to get the "rules" for evidence after all attempts to get answers to legitiamate questions failed. I sought these rules in response to the neverending attacks to further expose the forum. I offered to debate the evidences/reasons I believe in a prime mover vs any accountable position of belief that meets the criteria I was given. This challenge was not accepted. There will be claims otherwise but I guarrantee you won't find what I've asked. Now imagine doing this dance for four years simply because I refuse to debate nothing. I didn't set out to mock simple disbelief, that fine but this isn't that and I think you know it.
Name a subject I get to ask all the questions on and your job is to defend it, over and over and over and over again. How about science? Get my point? It's even more ridiculous considering I've exposed the standard. Remember my question regarding evidence quantification? Never answered relevantly.
Nonbelievers like yourself leave pretty quickly and they should. You may find it glib but what is the point of a forum about nothing? This is an agenda that stifles true freethought.
A simple I don't know...end forum would have sufficed. Now its a game to me to see how many years this forum will be intellectualy dishonest in their fight for nothing.
I appreciate your consideration but I've done this multiple times with decent folk like yourself. I won't debate in front of the kids without the reasonable prerequisites I've asked for. A simple no to my question should have been the response years ago LOL. Back to cut and paste. Yawn.
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. 7
John

United States

#71269 Apr 15, 2013
Another day of ineptitude from the antitheists.*Note to lurkers* They have gone almost four years without giving one accountable position they are willing to debate. Four years without an example of evidence that meets their criteria for evidence. These are angry agenda driven folks that don't give a damn about the evidence.
If you want to subject yourself to this farce by all means see for yourself. Antitheists you could also just cut and paste one of the 68,445 posts to show otherwise.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. True
science that is repeatable and observable.
Thinking

Ilminster, UK

#71270 Apr 15, 2013
I believe you talk to yourself.

A lot.
John wrote:
Another day of ineptitude from the antitheists.*Note to lurkers* They have gone almost four years without giving one accountable position they are willing to debate. Four years without an example of evidence that meets their criteria for evidence. These are angry agenda driven folks that don't give a damn about the evidence.
If you want to subject yourself to this farce by all means see for yourself. Antitheists you could also just cut and paste one of the 68,445 posts to show otherwise.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. True
science that is repeatable and observable.
Lincoln

United States

#71271 Apr 15, 2013
Thinking wrote:
So you believe in a God that makes people unhappy.
<quoted text>
Libertarians seem to have government jobs :-)
John

United States

#71272 Apr 15, 2013
Atheism is merely the bizarre repetition of disbelief. Nothing more.
KJV

United States

#71273 Apr 15, 2013
if atheist beliefs were not a positive assertion then why are they here?

It's not because they don't believe. It's because they believe God does not exist.

You really don't see much going on's with agnostic's do you?
They have an absents of beliefs.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#71274 Apr 15, 2013
KJV wrote:
if atheist beliefs were not a positive assertion then why are they here?
It's not because they don't believe. It's because they believe God does not exist.
You really don't see much going on's with agnostic's do you?
They have an absents of beliefs.
or that we know all of the man-made gods of the religious cult are not real as has been proven.

the question of if there are any other gods has not come u[p yet as there is not one teeny shred of evidence of such to start that conversation...
John

United States

#71275 Apr 15, 2013
I call this particularly unpleasant type antitheists. The type who would control and take liberties like other antitheistic regimes.

68,000 posts since 2009 for a supposed nonclaim. Unbelievable. Oh, I forgot to add rational, science, logic, etc. Those buzzwords really strengthen the veracity of nonclaims lmao.
KJV

United States

#71276 Apr 15, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>or that we know all of the man-made gods of the religious cult are not real as has been proven.

the question of if there are any other gods has not come u[p yet as there is not one teeny shred of evidence of such to start that conversation...
Just because you put it in every post does not make it true.

"there is not one teeny shred of evidence "

LOL

This if course is just a lie nothing more.
Screaming it from the roof tops will not make it any more true either but you're free to try.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#71277 Apr 15, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Just because you put it in every post does not make it true.
"there is not one teeny shred of evidence "
LOL
This if course is just a lie nothing more.
Screaming it from the roof tops will not make it any more true either but you're free to try.
it is true, if it were not true, you would have put up one shred of evidence, but you haven't because you cannot. there is not one. in all the millenia of human existence, there has not been one teensy shred of evidence for any god, gods or goddesses. not one. nada. zippo. zilch. cero. nil. none....

your cult lied to you...again...
John

United States

#71278 Apr 15, 2013
Good. I contend the preponderance of evidence lies on the side of a prime mover vs any other accountable position. What's yours let's get started. You'll slither away like you have since 2009.

Get your nothing out of here!
KJV

United States

#71279 Apr 15, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>it is true, if it were not true, you would have put up one shred of evidence, but you haven't because you cannot. there is not one. in all the millenia of human existence, there has not been one teensy shred of evidence for any god, gods or goddesses. not one. nada. zippo. zilch. cero. nil. none....

your cult lied to you...again...
" not one. nada. zippo. zilch. cero. nil. none"

Bit of evidence of evolution.

Lots of evidence for God.
No evidence for evolution nada. zippo. zilch. cero. nil. none.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#71280 Apr 15, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Then why are you here?
With your definition there would be no reason for you to be here.
Learn the word agnostic.
Agnostic is a lack of believe
Atheist believe there is no God.
If your definition was correct there would not be a need for the word agnostic. But we do have that word, so that is proof that your definition is wrong.
No, agnostic means not stating you know for certain, it's saying "I don't know," something most theists cannot say because you're too arrogant.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#71281 Apr 15, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
" not one. nada. zippo. zilch. cero. nil. none"
Bit of evidence of evolution.
Lots of evidence for God.
No evidence for evolution nada. zippo. zilch. cero. nil. none.
Stop lying.
KJV

United States

#71282 Apr 15, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>No, agnostic means not stating you know for certain, it's saying "I don't know," something most theists cannot say because you're too arrogant.
ag·nos·tic\ag-ˈnäs-tik,əg -\
noun
1 : a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god.

Seek and he shall find.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#71283 Apr 15, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
" not one. nada. zippo. zilch. cero. nil. none"
Bit of evidence of evolution.
Lots of evidence for God.
No evidence for evolution nada. zippo. zilch. cero. nil. none.
you have not one shred of evidence for god. not one.

why can[t you show this evidence you keep lying about? how many years and you haven't shown one bit of evidence. why?

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