Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70634 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Lincoln

United States

#71178 Apr 13, 2013
To doubt everything or
to believe everything
are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection.

Henri Poincaire
"Of Science and Hypotheses""

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#71179 Apr 13, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
To doubt everything or
to believe everything
are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection.
Henri Poincaire
"Of Science and Hypotheses""
"prove your f*cking god please" = every sane human being.
Imhotep

Parrish, FL

#71180 Apr 13, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
To doubt everything or
to believe everything
are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection.
Henri Poincaire
"Of Science and Hypotheses""
"Man is a marvelous curiosity ... he thinks he is the Creator's pet ... he even believes the Creator loves him; has a passion for him; sits up nights to admire him; yes and watch over him and keep him out of trouble. He prays to him and thinks He listens. Isn't it a quaint idea." ~Mark Twain
John

United States

#71181 Apr 13, 2013
Atheism is unreasoned faith in the disbelief of reasoned faith?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#71182 Apr 13, 2013
John wrote:
Atheism is unreasoned faith in the disbelief of reasoned faith?
You loose your brains again?
John

United States

#71184 Apr 13, 2013
Atheism is simply disbelief repeated over and over.
Mary Magdalena

United States

#71185 Apr 13, 2013
EmpAtheist wrote:
<quoted text>Nope. They just don't accept the myths the theists believe in

Mary Magdalena wrote, "
Theist believe in God."

Yes! Theists (you forgot the 's') believe in one or more gods. Atheists don't. It's that simple.

Mary Magdalena wrote, "
Atheist believe in:
The Big Bang - exploding nothingness that magically creates everything myth.
Life starting on its own - the scum pond myth.
Evolution - where plants evolved into plant eating animals myth."

Nope... Not necessarily. They just don't believe one or many gods did it.

Mary Magdalena wrote, "
Tolling - posting and fighting on topix over something that they don't believe even existed. Wasting hundreds of hours. Myth.
"

Nope. The Internet is a place that atheists don't have to worry about losing family, friends, their jobs, etc... For simply not believing in one or many gods... This place is safe... And you would probably be surprised that one of your own friends or family members is also a closeted atheist because of people like you.:-)
You do believe the big three Myths don't you?

People like me? You don't even know me. In fact I'm quite good in bed. But I'm not in bed right now. LOL
John

United States

#71186 Apr 13, 2013
Mary Magdalena wrote:
<quoted text>
You do believe the big three Myths don't you?
People like me? You don't even know me. In fact I'm quite good in bed. But I'm not in bed right now. LOL
You don't believe in the magic science LOL. Well done!
John

United States

#71187 Apr 13, 2013
You're a special kind of nut proven time and again to be an unabashed liar.
On January, 2009 when Obama took office total debt of federal government was $10, 626, 877, 048, 913. 08 according to the US TREASURY. As of January 17, 2013 the last day of business before Obamas second reign of terror the total debt of the federal government was $16, 432, 631, 489, 854. 70.
The new federal debt under Obama in his first term equaled approximately $50,521.00 for each household in the country.
Since your guy can't stand on his own don't bother looking up Bush's debt. I was against Tarp BTW. I'm intellectually honest. It's a shame you aren't.
Your other posts are crap as well. He hasn't created one job while piling up more debt than Washinton through Clinton.
This isn't going to end well. I'll skip the other nonsense about health fraud, history, etc. The country will either reject statism or we will live in tyranny. I'll let you guess the other options. History is cyclical.
Lie for your Obama and your nothing Bob.5
John

United States

#71188 Apr 13, 2013
Bureau of labor statistics 4/5/13
Since Obama took office the labor force participation rate has declined from 65.7 percent to 63.3 percent.
In March 496,000 Americans dropped out of the labor force.
there are currently 803,000 unemployed workers that have given up looking for work.
the real unemployment rate, including those that are working part-time due to economic reasons is 13.8%
Since Obama took office the nation has lost 752,000 construction jobs.
the last time the labor force participation rate was this low was in May of 1979.
All this despite raiding the treasury for trillions.
You sir are a liar. This statist ideology has never worked and we will either correct course, live as government cattle, or have a prairie fire. Passive of course LOL.
Want to be taken to school on his anti-American radically buddies. You should. All freethinkers should. Truth is power. Just post you lied and I want charge you for the instruction. Atheists of sound minds should challenge the Bob types that have co-opted disbelief. 5
John

United States

#71189 Apr 13, 2013
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle ithought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence Bob, Septic, Tinkling,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 68,366 posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!
John

United States

#71190 Apr 13, 2013
No they are fighting/lashing out at God. Most of them. This forum has gone on for years and it happens with or without me. You think simple disbelief has carried the forum in all its venom this long? The evidence speaks otherwise. Speaking of evidence. Do you have any in this arena you hold others accountable to?
I've already exposed your standard of evidence yet you want ME to provide YOU evidence in your forum. Let me guess you'll be the arbiter. Your forum insists on fighting God, you can't stay away from him. I've made it clear, apparently you don't read my posts that I don't debate nothing. God is merely an axe and diversion created by loons to mask their nothing agenda.
You've made the claim there is no God so prove it. That's your deal and problem whether its impossible or not. I've offered to debate the evidences/reasons I believe in a prime mover vs any accountable position of belief you want to make a case for. You have failed miserably. Not my problem.
Regurgitating tired nonpoints despite four years of me being clear makes it obvious you have no intention of doing anything other than projecting. Nothing certainly is not the answer.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. 5
John

United States

#71191 Apr 13, 2013
Absolutely. Right back at ya. Originally I simply asked the forum what they believed and noted that antitheism is in my experience all too often the default. Being a believer is/was irrelevant. I was accurate and antitheists showed their true colors, lashing out against a God they don't believe in and a God I was not attempting to shove down their throats.
Ruling out possibilities is not freethinking. We don't know what we don't know. Attacking/marginalizing belief isn't intellectually honest when nothing meets the repeatable and observable standard. Four years of no evidence in the atheism forum is enough for me to conclude this. I've asked the question hundreds of times and many claim to have provided it, but that's a lie. No sugarcoating it.
The conversation devolved quickly as (the way I see it) their was a group attack effort to bring this God they seem to hate into the equation. This did not dissuade me as I chose to stay on point. I was clear my intentions were not to make any claims, I was an am.simply pointing out intellectual dishonesty.
I continued trying to get the "rules" for evidence after all attempts to get answers to legitiamate questions failed. I sought these rules in response to the neverending attacks to further expose the forum. I offered to debate the evidences/reasons I believe in a prime mover vs any accountable position of belief that meets the criteria I was given. This challenge was not accepted. There will be claims otherwise but I guarrantee you won't find what I've asked. Now imagine doing this dance for four years simply because I refuse to debate nothing. I didn't set out to mock simple disbelief, that fine but this isn't that and I think you know it.
Name a subject I get to ask all the questions on and your job is to defend it, over and over and over and over again. How about science? Get my point? It's even more ridiculous considering I've exposed the standard. Remember my question regarding evidence quantification? Never answered relevantly.
Nonbelievers like yourself leave pretty quickly and they should. You may find it glib but what is the point of a forum about nothing? This is an agenda that stifles true freethought.
A simple I don't know...end forum would have sufficed. Now its a game to me to see how many years this forum will be intellectualy dishonest in their fight for nothing.
I appreciate your consideration but I've done this multiple times with decent folk like yourself. I won't debate in front of the kids without the reasonable prerequisites I've asked for. A simple no to my question should have been the response years ago LOL. Back to cut and paste. Yawn.
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. 5
John

United States

#71192 Apr 13, 2013
Another day of ineptitude from the antitheists.*Note to lurkers* They have gone almost four years without giving one accountable position they are willing to debate. Four years without an example of evidence that meets their criteria for evidence. These are angry agenda driven folks that don't give a damn about the evidence.
If you want to subject yourself to this farce by all means see for yourself. Antitheists you could also just cut and paste one of the 68,369 posts to show otherwise.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. True
science that is repeatable and observable.
Mary Magdalena

United States

#71193 Apr 13, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>You don't believe in the magic science LOL. Well done!
I find it hard to believe that anyone believe in those myths

The Big Bang - when nothing exploded to create everything.

pond water producing all life on earth.

Evolution - that's where plants evolved to plant eating animals

Who could buy into these?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#71194 Apr 13, 2013
Mary Magdalena wrote:
<quoted text>
I find it hard to believe that anyone believe in those myths
The Big Bang - when nothing exploded to create everything.
pond water producing all life on earth.
Evolution - that's where plants evolved to plant eating animals
Who could buy into these?
even though you have been told this countless of times, you still repeat what you know to be a lie. it was not nothing and it didn't explode.

it is your god myth that says everything from nothing, and you just said that is beyond belief.

once again you contradict your self...

ever see a sea anemone? looks and acts a lot like plant, doesn't it? not really much difference at all...
Lincoln

United States

#71195 Apr 13, 2013
Militant atheist: I hate people who believe Blah! Blah! Blah!
Militant atheist: I use swear words Blah! Blah! Blah!
Militant atheist: Theism is wrong Blah! Blah! Blah!
Militant atheist: I am a legend in my own mind. Blah! Blah! Blah!
John

United States

#71196 Apr 13, 2013
What was it? The name that shall not be named?
Atheism is simply disbelief. Nothing more.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#71197 Apr 14, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
Militant atheist: I hate people who believe Blah! Blah! Blah!
Militant atheist: I use swear words Blah! Blah! Blah!
Militant atheist: Theism is wrong Blah! Blah! Blah!
Militant atheist: I am a legend in my own mind. Blah! Blah! Blah!
There's no such thing as a militant atheist. Only theists with no proof of god and atheists who lack a belief in the hallucinations of theists.
John

United States

#71198 Apr 14, 2013
Atheism is simply disbelief. We swear to nothing!

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