Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70645 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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John

United States

#71060 Apr 9, 2013
You're a special kind of nut proven time and again to be an unabashed liar.
On January, 2009 when Obama took office total debt of federal government was $10, 626, 877, 048, 913. 08 according to the US TREASURY. As of January 17, 2013 the last day of business before Obamas second reign of terror the total debt of the federal government was $16, 432, 631, 489, 854. 70.
The new federal debt under Obama in his first term equaled approximately $50,521.00 for each household in the country.
Since your guy can't stand on his own don't bother looking up Bush's debt. I was against Tarp BTW. I'm intellectually honest. It's a shame you aren't.
Your other posts are crap as well. He hasn't created one job while piling up more debt than Washinton through Clinton.
This isn't going to end well. I'll skip the other nonsense about health fraud, history, etc. The country will either reject statism or we will live in tyranny. I'll let you guess the other options. History is cyclical.

Lie for your Obama and your nothing Bob.
John

United States

#71061 Apr 9, 2013
Bureau of labor statistics 4/5/13
Since Obama took office the labor force participation rate has declined from 65.7 percent to 63.3 percent.

In March 496,000 Americans dropped out of the labor force.

there are currently 803,000 unemployed workers that have given up looking for work.

the real unemployment rate, including those that are working part-time due to economic reasons is 13.8%

Since Obama took office the nation has lost 752,000 construction jobs.

the last time the labor force participation rate was this low was in May of 1979.

All this despite raiding the treasury for trillions.

You sir are a liar. This statist ideology has never worked and we will either correct course, live as government cattle, or have a prairie fire. Passive of course LOL.

Want to be taken to school on his anti-American radically buddies. You should. All freethinkers should. Truth is power. Just post you lied and I want charge you for the instruction. Atheists of sound minds should challenge the Bob types that have co-opted disbelief.
John

United States

#71062 Apr 9, 2013
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle ithought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence Bob, Septic, Tinkling,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 68,240 + posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#71063 Apr 9, 2013
John wrote:
You're a special kind of nut proven time and again to be an unabashed liar.
On January, 2009 when Obama took office total debt of federal government was $10, 626, 877, 048, 913. 08 according to the US TREASURY. As of January 17, 2013 the last day of business before Obamas second reign of terror the total debt of the federal government was $16, 432, 631, 489, 854. 70.
The new federal debt under Obama in his first term equaled approximately $50,521.00 for each household in the country.
Since your guy can't stand on his own don't bother looking up Bush's debt. I was against Tarp BTW. I'm intellectually honest. It's a shame you aren't.
Your other posts are crap as well. He hasn't created one job while piling up more debt than Washinton through Clinton.
This isn't going to end well. I'll skip the other nonsense about health fraud, history, etc. The country will either reject statism or we will live in tyranny. I'll let you guess the other options. History is cyclical.
Lie for your Obama and your nothing Bob.
Keep sucking on Glenn Beck's d***, John.

I'm sure he loves it all the way to his position in the top 1%.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#71064 Apr 9, 2013
John wrote:
Bureau of labor statistics 4/5/13
Since Obama took office the labor force participation rate has declined from 65.7 percent to 63.3 percent.
In March 496,000 Americans dropped out of the labor force.
there are currently 803,000 unemployed workers that have given up looking for work.
the real unemployment rate, including those that are working part-time due to economic reasons is 13.8%
Since Obama took office the nation has lost 752,000 construction jobs.
the last time the labor force participation rate was this low was in May of 1979.
All this despite raiding the treasury for trillions.
You sir are a liar. This statist ideology has never worked and we will either correct course, live as government cattle, or have a prairie fire. Passive of course LOL.
Want to be taken to school on his anti-American radically buddies. You should. All freethinkers should. Truth is power. Just post you lied and I want charge you for the instruction. Atheists of sound minds should challenge the Bob types that have co-opted disbelief.
Source? No?

False News? LMAO!

You just keep lying from Fox, and it just shows you for the deluded idiot you are.

Keep sucking on that Glen Beck d888, John...

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#71065 Apr 9, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
I see you watch False News for your... ahem ... "facts".
Obama's policies have created more than 11 million jobs since he began.
Bushy only created 1 million jobs.
And his spending? Is the lowest (relatively) of all the recent presidents.
Your lies notwithstanding-- obviously reality is not something you are familiar with.
But that was clear from your very first lie--erm-- post.
Bull shit.

There are fewer people employed in America than when Obama took office. No net job creation. None.

Obama has borrowed 1.5 times the daily rate of Bush, and Bush spent like a drunken sailor.

You are willing to tell any lie for your jug-eared socialist president.

You would salute him if he shit in your face.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#71068 Apr 10, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Bull shit.
There are fewer people employed in America than when Obama took office. No net job creation. None.
Obama has borrowed 1.5 times the daily rate of Bush, and Bush spent like a drunken sailor.
You are willing to tell any lie for your jug-eared socialist president.
You would salute him if he shit in your face.
Mentally ill creationist troll who believes that jesus rode on the backs of dinosaurs. Beware! His opinions on science and politics are worthless!

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#71069 Apr 10, 2013
John wrote:
Atheism is simple disbelief. People who are upset and disappointed are appealing to a standard. Hmm. I wonder why. Atheists lack depth so there is no need for me to explain natural law. You would reject it, but most of you live it. The irony is comical but lost on you.
You couldn't explain natural law if your life depended upon it - you can't even prove your god for f*cks sake.

What a defeated child you are.
John

United States

#71070 Apr 10, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
You couldn't explain natural law if your life depended upon it - you can't even prove your god for f*cks sake.
What a defeated child you are.
Your ridiculous magic science and other assorted nonsensenses have been exposed and mocked. Already have four years ago. You thought I was talking science huh nothing? Atheists lack depth.

Thanks for nothing though.
John

United States

#71071 Apr 10, 2013
Atheist call themselves freethinkers but when their agenda is shown to be a lie they remain silent. Notice how thoroughly and unequivocallly Bobs lies were exposed. Not a peep of protest from his bigot buddies.
John

United States

#71072 Apr 10, 2013
No they are fighting/lashing out at God. Most of them. This forum has gone on for years and it happens with or without me. You think simple disbelief has carried the forum in all its venom this long? The evidence speaks otherwise. Speaking of evidence. Do you have any in this arena you hold others accountable to?
I've already exposed your standard of evidence yet you want ME to provide YOU evidence in your forum. Let me guess you'll be the arbiter. Your forum insists on fighting God, you can't stay away from him. I've made it clear, apparently you don't read my posts that I don't debate nothing. God is merely an axe and diversion created by loons to mask their nothing agenda.
You've made the claim there is no God so prove it. That's your deal and problem whether its impossible or not. I've offered to debate the evidences/reasons I believe in a prime mover vs any accountable position of belief you want to make a case for. You have failed miserably. Not my problem.
Regurgitating tired nonpoints despite four years of me being clear makes it obvious you have no intention of doing anything other than projecting. Nothing certainly is not the answer.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. 9

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#71073 Apr 10, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
Your ridiculous magic science and other assorted nonsensenses have been exposed and mocked. Already have four years ago. You thought I was talking science huh nothing? Atheists lack depth.
Thanks for nothing though.
You have the same thing that atheists have = absolutely no proof of god whatsoever.

This scares you.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#71074 Apr 10, 2013
John wrote:
No they are fighting/lashing out at God.
Atheism = lack of belief in god.

Atheists can't fight / lash out at something they don't belive in in the first place.

You're just a loudmouthed idiot who doesn't have a proper education.
Imhotep

Parrish, FL

#71075 Apr 10, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Mentally ill creationist troll who believes that jesus rode on the backs of dinosaurs. Beware! His opinions on science and politics are worthless!
I appreciate the warning but in this person's case one only needs to see one comment to determine The extreme narcissism

Dead giveaway... these people are so full of themselves they are Unintentionally funny and to daft to realize it!
John

United States

#71076 Apr 10, 2013
Atheism is merely disbelief. Nothing more. We have a never ending forum proving just that.
John

United States

#71077 Apr 10, 2013
Absolutely. Right back at ya. Originally I simply asked the forum what they believed and noted that antitheism is in my experience all too often the default. Being a believer is/was irrelevant. I was accurate and antitheists showed their true colors, lashing out against a God they don't believe in and a God I was not attempting to shove down their throats.
Ruling out possibilities is not freethinking. We don't know what we don't know. Attacking/marginalizing belief isn't intellectually honest when nothing meets the repeatable and observable standard. Four years of no evidence in the atheism forum is enough for me to conclude this. I've asked the question hundreds of times and many claim to have provided it, but that's a lie. No sugarcoating it.
The conversation devolved quickly as (the way I see it) their was a group attack effort to bring this God they seem to hate into the equation. This did not dissuade me as I chose to stay on point. I was clear my intentions were not to make any claims, I was an am.simply pointing out intellectual dishonesty.
I continued trying to get the "rules" for evidence after all attempts to get answers to legitiamate questions failed. I sought these rules in response to the neverending attacks to further expose the forum. I offered to debate the evidences/reasons I believe in a prime mover vs any accountable position of belief that meets the criteria I was given. This challenge was not accepted. There will be claims otherwise but I guarrantee you won't find what I've asked. Now imagine doing this dance for four years simply because I refuse to debate nothing. I didn't set out to mock simple disbelief, that fine but this isn't that and I think you know it.
Name a subject I get to ask all the questions on and your job is to defend it, over and over and over and over again. How about science? Get my point? It's even more ridiculous considering I've exposed the standard. Remember my question regarding evidence quantification? Never answered relevantly.
Nonbelievers like yourself leave pretty quickly and they should. You may find it glib but what is the point of a forum about nothing? This is an agenda that stifles true freethought.
A simple I don't know...end forum would have sufficed. Now its a game to me to see how many years this forum will be intellectualy dishonest in their fight for nothing.
I appreciate your consideration but I've done this multiple times with decent folk like yourself. I won't debate in front of the kids without the reasonable prerequisites I've asked for. A simple no to my question should have been the response years ago LOL. Back to cut and paste. Yawn.
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. 9

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#71078 Apr 10, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Bull shit.
There are fewer people employed in America than when Obama took office. No net job creation. None.
Nope. Obama's policies have created a net 11 million jobs since he took office.

I see you are also one of the Fox News d**k suckers.

As expected.
Buck Crick wrote:
Obama has borrowed 1.5 times the daily rate of Bush, and Bush spent like a drunken sailor.
Nope, again--not true. Obama's budget is the lowest in modern history-- if you discount Bush 2's two illegal wars of aggression.

Not to mention? It was Bush 2 who lobbied for the economic stimulus package-- Bush's idea, again.

I see you love the taste of Fox News d*** too much.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#71079 Apr 10, 2013
John wrote:
Absolutely.
I believe you are a demonstrated idiot.

I believe you are also hateful in the extreme; your bigotry extends to many others in the world, but especially to everyone who doesn't buy into your hateful delusions.

I believe you have been shown to be an uneducated moron.

I believe you actually think that the ReThuglicans give a sh7t about.... you. When reality suggests that the only thing ReThuglicans give a sh7t about, is the top 1%. Which you clearly are not a member of.

I believe you are uneducated, and likely never completed high school.

Shall I go on?
John

United States

#71080 Apr 10, 2013
I know what nothing is. That sums up your forum and Obamas net job creation.

I'm losing count of how many times I have proven you to be a liar.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#71081 Apr 10, 2013
John wrote:
I'm losing count of how many times I have proven you to be a liar.
Of course you are-- because the "count" is still zero.

Just like your ... "prime mover" as a matter of fact.

Oh!

Here are some of the things I believe:

I believe you are a demonstrated idiot.

I believe you are also hateful in the extreme; your bigotry extends to many others in the world, but especially to everyone who doesn't buy into your hateful delusions.

I believe you have been shown to be an uneducated moron.

I believe you actually think that the ReThuglicans give a sh7t about.... you. When reality suggests that the only thing ReThuglicans give a sh7t about, is the top 1%. Which you clearly are not a member of.

I believe you are uneducated, and likely never completed high school.

Shall I go on?

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