Atheists on the march in America

Aug 26, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: TurkishPress.com

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Mar 28, 2013
 
I'm glad we have established your forum has no accountable position of belief or adequate way to weigh evidence.

If that's all you have, its duly noted. I'm not alluding that I think you have an agenda, I know you do. Four years of posting accusations and attacks against Christianity confirms that.

Now if you don't believe in God what's the fixation? You don't believe anything is evidence in this arena. I'm not going to fend off multiple and repeated questions in your forum. You folks are the ones running from any substantive debate. If that's because your nonposition doesn't allow it then stop the lunacy of trying to make your disbelief relevant. One sentence sums up atheism.

Your continued attempts to marginalize belief is entirely different than simply not believing. Most of the world believes something larger than us is responsible for the universe. There are many reasons and rationales why that belief persists. This conclusion is derived in different ways by different people. Some come to the decision based on logic and evidence. Many ex-atheists become believers in this manner. C.S. Lewis being one. To me these are some of the more interesting thinkers on the subject.

Francis Collins mapped our genetic code and sees design. The list is endless and isn't pigeonholed by only one discipline. I don't debate nothing. Do your own homework I'd you want but this narrative you want to convey that belief is absurd and has absolutely no evidence I reject. What I do know is no evidence is good for YOU. Fair enough. Going further and marginalizing belief as you sit on the fence is childish.

There is a reason you don't want to debate your nothing vs my something. You don't know where to begin. I do. I don't care if it satisfies you or not. This is your forum. I don't debate nothing and won't apologize for it.

I will accept your apologies for spending four years attacking reasoned faith you don't have in your own forum. Talk about bait and switch LOL.

....and empatheist no need to apologize for not submitting the second half. It is tiring and you just started. Try to remember that. You are dealing with just a few theists as opposed to the dozens of antitheists I am. Yet another reason I don't feel an obligation to address every nonsensical claim thrown into the mix. You want a debate. You know the terms.

I find it interesting that the evidentiary standard you use and I've exposed is the sole barometer you want to weigh my evidence in your forum is. It must be easy to attack, question, ad infinitum from the fence. Anyone can throw monkey shyte.

....so, another day of nothing commences.

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John wrote:
I'm glad we have established your forum has no accountable position of belief or adequate way to weigh evidence.
If that's all you have, its duly noted. I'm not alluding that I think you have an agenda, I know you do. Four years of posting accusations and attacks against Christianity confirms that.
Now if you don't believe in God what's the fixation? You don't believe anything is evidence in this arena. I'm not going to fend off multiple and repeated questions in your forum. You folks are the ones running from any substantive debate. If that's because your nonposition doesn't allow it then stop the lunacy of trying to make your disbelief relevant. One sentence sums up atheism.
Your continued attempts to marginalize belief is entirely different than simply not believing. Most of the world believes something larger than us is responsible for the universe. There are many reasons and rationales why that belief persists. This conclusion is derived in different ways by different people. Some come to the decision based on logic and evidence. Many ex-atheists become believers in this manner. C.S. Lewis being one. To me these are some of the more interesting thinkers on the subject.
Francis Collins mapped our genetic code and sees design. The list is endless and isn't pigeonholed by only one discipline. I don't debate nothing. Do your own homework I'd you want but this narrative you want to convey that belief is absurd and has absolutely no evidence I reject. What I do know is no evidence is good for YOU. Fair enough. Going further and marginalizing belief as you sit on the fence is childish.
There is a reason you don't want to debate your nothing vs my something. You don't know where to begin. I do. I don't care if it satisfies you or not. This is your forum. I don't debate nothing and won't apologize for it.
I will accept your apologies for spending four years attacking reasoned faith you don't have in your own forum. Talk about bait and switch LOL.
....and empatheist no need to apologize for not submitting the second half. It is tiring and you just started. Try to remember that. You are dealing with just a few theists as opposed to the dozens of antitheists I am. Yet another reason I don't feel an obligation to address every nonsensical claim thrown into the mix. You want a debate. You know the terms.
I find it interesting that the evidentiary standard you use and I've exposed is the sole barometer you want to weigh my evidence in your forum is. It must be easy to attack, question, ad infinitum from the fence. Anyone can throw monkey shyte.
....so, another day of nothing commences.
What is the difference between what we consider evidence and what you consider evidence? What is the difference in your standard and what you think is ours?

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Mar 28, 2013
 
John wrote:
I'm glad we have established your forum has no accountable position of belief or adequate way to weigh evidence.
If that's all you have, its duly noted. I'm not alluding that I think you have an agenda, I know you do. Four years of posting accusations and attacks against Christianity confirms that.
Now if you don't believe in God what's the fixation? You don't believe anything is evidence in this arena. I'm not going to fend off multiple and repeated questions in your forum. You folks are the ones running from any substantive debate. If that's because your nonposition doesn't allow it then stop the lunacy of trying to make your disbelief relevant. One sentence sums up atheism.
Your continued attempts to marginalize belief is entirely different than simply not believing. Most of the world believes something larger than us is responsible for the universe. There are many reasons and rationales why that belief persists. This conclusion is derived in different ways by different people. Some come to the decision based on logic and evidence. Many ex-atheists become believers in this manner. C.S. Lewis being one. To me these are some of the more interesting thinkers on the subject.
Francis Collins mapped our genetic code and sees design. The list is endless and isn't pigeonholed by only one discipline. I don't debate nothing. Do your own homework I'd you want but this narrative you want to convey that belief is absurd and has absolutely no evidence I reject. What I do know is no evidence is good for YOU. Fair enough. Going further and marginalizing belief as you sit on the fence is childish.
There is a reason you don't want to debate your nothing vs my something. You don't know where to begin. I do. I don't care if it satisfies you or not. This is your forum. I don't debate nothing and won't apologize for it.
I will accept your apologies for spending four years attacking reasoned faith you don't have in your own forum. Talk about bait and switch LOL.
....and empatheist no need to apologize for not submitting the second half. It is tiring and you just started. Try to remember that. You are dealing with just a few theists as opposed to the dozens of antitheists I am. Yet another reason I don't feel an obligation to address every nonsensical claim thrown into the mix. You want a debate. You know the terms.
I find it interesting that the evidentiary standard you use and I've exposed is the sole barometer you want to weigh my evidence in your forum is. It must be easy to attack, question, ad infinitum from the fence. Anyone can throw monkey shyte.
....so, another day of nothing commences.
TLDR: I john, have no proof of god.

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Mar 28, 2013
 
Thinking wrote:
Why do all powerful gods need sycophants?
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if there were ever a shred of evidence for one of those gods, we could start that discussion.

get back to me when you get that very first shred...

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John wrote:
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Can you give me an example of proof?
What's the matter, can't you? of course you can't - because you're lying about god that's why. You silly fool!
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Mar 28, 2013
 
I know, of course, that you won't be holding your breath.
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>if there were ever a shred of evidence for one of those gods, we could start that discussion.
get back to me when you get that very first shred...
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What is the difference between what we consider evidence and what you consider evidence? What is the difference in your standard and what you think is ours?
The Christian scientific method is just fine in the mode it was intended. You miss out on a ton of information when you limit your thinking to one all encompassing modality. Perhaps this is semantics and evidence isn't the proper word. Contrary to liar Bob we don't have irrefutable measurement of a conscience but the idea of one existed long before a microscope.

Science is constantly evolving and many things once treated as sacrosanct have been disregarded. Remember when the coccyx was a prehensile tail? Oops. Science is a piece of a puzzle. A big one, but being open to other information/evidence sources isn't anti-science. It's freethinking.

Don't even get me started on grant monies and agendas that start out with a preconceived finding first and the experimental conditions made to fit the coordinated result.

The shroud of Turin has no explanation. Sure there is carbon dating (another issue) but no adequate scientific explanation for the transposed images of a man with wounds etc. Maybe these fishermen and goatherders pulled a fast one our modern day science can't figure out. Maybe some other explanation exists. The difference is I'm open to explanation and atheists say they will wait for evidence. Well, it seems to me that means if science can't address it nothing will. Notice I didn't leap to a conclusion. I'm more a totality of info/circumstance go. I didn't mention the Shroud for any religious statement either.

You expect me to debate evidence with a group that doesn't accept a historical Jesus? Umm, I don't think so. They can hang onto their axes and I'll consider information from wherever I can get it.

At what point do you believe in something? What's the threshold? A beaker and microscope. Do you believe in love? We can see chemical combinations, mri scans of the brain, but that doesn't prove love. Some things are slippery.

I consider my ahem guess to be informed and educated. If you don't, you don't.

Now I'll get back to the bigots. I'm done here and it isn't personal. There are too many antitheists revealing nothing for me to have a side conversation. You want to debate bring some evidence. If not be comfortable enough in your disbelief instead of spending your time on a God you don't believe in.

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Thinking wrote:
I know, of course, that you won't be holding your breath.
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?!?!?

PHHHEEEWWWwwww....ewww..eww!

Freakin' now you tell me!!!! gasp...gasp...wheeeeeeze...gas p...

still no shred to even make that discussion?

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John wrote:
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The Christian scientific method is just fine in the mode it was intended. You miss out on a ton of information when you limit your thinking to one all encompassing modality. Perhaps this is semantics and evidence isn't the proper word. Contrary to liar Bob we don't have irrefutable measurement of a conscience but the idea of one existed long before a microscope.
Science is constantly evolving and many things once treated as sacrosanct have been disregarded. Remember when the coccyx was a prehensile tail? Oops. Science is a piece of a puzzle. A big one, but being open to other information/evidence sources isn't anti-science. It's freethinking.
Don't even get me started on grant monies and agendas that start out with a preconceived finding first and the experimental conditions made to fit the coordinated result.
The shroud of Turin has no explanation. Sure there is carbon dating (another issue) but no adequate scientific explanation for the transposed images of a man with wounds etc. Maybe these fishermen and goatherders pulled a fast one our modern day science can't figure out. Maybe some other explanation exists. The difference is I'm open to explanation and atheists say they will wait for evidence. Well, it seems to me that means if science can't address it nothing will. Notice I didn't leap to a conclusion. I'm more a totality of info/circumstance go. I didn't mention the Shroud for any religious statement either.
You expect me to debate evidence with a group that doesn't accept a historical Jesus? Umm, I don't think so. They can hang onto their axes and I'll consider information from wherever I can get it.
At what point do you believe in something? What's the threshold? A beaker and microscope. Do you believe in love? We can see chemical combinations, mri scans of the brain, but that doesn't prove love. Some things are slippery.
I consider my ahem guess to be informed and educated. If you don't, you don't.
Now I'll get back to the bigots. I'm done here and it isn't personal. There are too many antitheists revealing nothing for me to have a side conversation. You want to debate bring some evidence. If not be comfortable enough in your disbelief instead of spending your time on a God you don't believe in.
I very much appreciate this response! It was well laid out. Thank you.

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Mariowhatshisname wrote:
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Sure it does, if you believe in "zombies", that are bigoted, and ignorantly tout crystal ball, tarot card reading side show cannibalisTic freakishness, with no moral ideal of right or wrong, that can't read in comprehension beyond a 4rth grade level.
Not everyone believes in that kind of hedonstic crazy shit though.
Thank God.
You did not explain:

Christianity: The belief that some cosmic Jewish Zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

Makes perfect sense.

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Talkofthewistedndistorted wrote:
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Crazy, hednosisTic, twisted and distorted, hatred and intolerance of that which is bigoted.
Yes. What you said >>does<< explain Genuine Christianity™ all too well.

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Truthfulones wrote:
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That's very insightful.
Really?

Did your Stump-John show PROOF that I lied?

No?

He cannot-- for I never have on Topix.

But that you think Stumpy's "insightful" is rather revealing to YOUR character...

... and it's not looking good for you either.

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Truthfulones wrote:
Wonders how long it will take for the e-vile parasiTic blood and life sucking freak(s) to latch onto the shirt tails of oxygenated, non-brain dead, non-ethically challenged of this thread.
Anyone have a majikal, invisible serum potion, to hide from vile witch hunting, pitch fork torch carrying freaks?
Good!

You once again describe True Believers™.

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Truthfulones wrote:
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and until you zombiem brainless paper licking DOLT types can learn NOT to project your OWN hatred and opinions onto others-please stay AWAY from MY posts.
Want NO part of that hatred poison-NONE whatsoever. It's sickening.
I see your melt-down has commenced.

Classic behavior of another True Believer™

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Truthfulones wrote:
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I don't believe in special rights for ANYONE.
Gay, atheist, jewish or otherwise.
In my opinion that "special" anything leads to delusionality-and creates a socio-ILLogical enitleMENTALly diseased society.
I'ts like saying everyone should like "peas"--which is so ignorant, it is beyond belief that such Ignorance even exists.
That Ignorance is on the same elementary level as expecting people that believe in certain other ways, to alter their customs of traditions to allow for that which may not believe in.
That is why we have SECULAR realms.
So get over it already-you are not anymore special than anyone else,and not everyone in the world will like or can be forced to eat peas!!!!!!!!!!
REALITY.
The problem with your super-simplistic world-view?

Is that it permits the MAJORITY to discriminate against any and all MINORITIES, just because they can.

That's the problem with simple-minded people such as yourself: you are simply unable to see beyond the limits of your own self.

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Neither is AIDS or STD's. Does that factor into your spiel of bullchit?
Two way street there-hypocrite.
What?

Are you trying to claim either of these dread diseases are somehow... "punishment from gawd" or something?

Sick.

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No special rights for anyone.
Don't shove your hate and intolerance down MY throat-because I'll shove it right back at you.
Riiight, so that the Majority can go back to enslaving the minority?

For that IS what happened, when we did things YOUR way...

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KittenKoder wrote:
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That's an excuse, worst is that you know it. You are making excuses for people who verbally assault, deny employment, and even physically attack people who are a smaller number just because they are not the majority. That is bigotry.
Yep.

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EmpAtheist wrote:
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What about AIDS and STD's?
What did i say that is hypocritical?
Your response either makes no sense or needs more clarification of what you are comparing here.
I suspect, that him being a True Believer™, he thinks AIDS & STD's are "punishment from gawd" or some other foolishness.

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John wrote:
Good to see you don't support infanticide. The ultimate human rights violation. Gay marriage, religion,,,, what about atheistm LOL. Let's discuss that. It is an atheism forum.
Yet, the Genuine Bible™ has it's god doing exactly that: in the Noachian flood, bible-god MURDERS all the babies in the world.

But it's worse: bible-god repeatedly commands the Israelites to kill EVERYONE, including babies.

So, if you don't wish to support infanticide? You must NOT support the bible.

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