Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70657 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#70174 Mar 28, 2013
TruthIs wrote:
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The OT IS full of dark age, UNenlightened stuff.
I(!) view the book as a book written by men-Inspired to do so, based upon their beliefs and in some instances, even possibly experiences.
So stop projecting YOUR opinion and speak for yourSELF only.
The REST of the articulate enough for themselves in the world types, would appreciate that you do NOT attempt to speak for them!
so sad..the myth of divine inspiration for writing and interpreting the bible has been proven false time and time again.

your cult just made shit up...just like every other cult.(actually, your cult wasn't even that original, they borrowed tons of stuff, like the whole concept and life of your saviour, from previous religious cults...)

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#70175 Mar 28, 2013
TruthIs wrote:
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March march march, oh jackboot velveteenage potus worshipers! Hiel obammer lol.
you talk a lot like runaway johnny...why is that?
Thinking

Mirfield, UK

#70176 Mar 28, 2013
At least it will soon be April April April April.
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>you talk a lot like runaway johnny...why is that?

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#70177 Mar 28, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
More like your posts are devoid of evidence or an accountable position so you attempt to steer the narrative far away from your magic science.
I notice you avoided my challenge.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.
I am not an antitheist. but I am certainly not going to repost everything I have already posted to you. The ball is in your court.

I am making no claims other than I have no evidence of the existence of a God, and it is impossible to show you evidence of a non-existent God. Please don't go through your silly spiel again.

If you have any valid points, make them; otherwise why are you here?

I will amend the above to say that I have made truthful posts many times about some of the beliefs that theists have which have been confirmed (not by me) to be untrue. I also will not repost those to you, as it becomes tiring, and you likely know most of them anyway.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#70178 Mar 28, 2013
Thinking wrote:
At least it will soon be April April April April.
<quoted text>
slightly busted, huh?

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#70179 Mar 28, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
More like your posts are devoid of evidence or an accountable position so you attempt to steer the narrative far away from your magic science.
I notice you avoided my challenge.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.
Boooots has been even more civil with you than I have been. You continue to ignore what is being said... But although I am frustrated I am also entertained.

I want to first apologize... I never posted a "part 2" and you waited to respond. It was another thing i typed and lost and i have had a hectic work schedule. To be honest... I don't feel like sorting through 20 pages to see where I left off... And I did a similar thing yesterday but as the conversations move along I lose interest in responding to week old comments. I'm sure they will arise again anyway. I just wanted to let you know I was sorry.

Ok can you tell me just one thing... You are asking for an accountable position... We don't have what you are looking for... And when we explain to you why... You say we are dodging the question and I don't know if you are implying that we have none... Which would be correct and makes this dialog very strange. Or you think we have a secret accountable position.

In summary... There is no answer for your question... What is your goal?
Thinking

Mirfield, UK

#70180 Mar 28, 2013
Somewhat!

I assume that "cut and paste but rarely debate John" has bored himself to bits and he has added a more interactive persona.

This is the dishonest way fundies bulk their numbers up.
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>slightly busted, huh?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#70181 Mar 28, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Somewhat!
I assume that "cut and paste but rarely debate John" has bored himself to bits and he has added a more interactive persona.
This is the dishonest way fundies bulk their numbers up.
<quoted text>
and lie about not being a memvber of a religious cult but then thump the cult bible under another moniker..

funny how it is only the people areguing for their religious cults that have to lie so much on these pages...i thought their mythical god was against such behavior?
Thinking

Mirfield, UK

#70182 Mar 28, 2013
Why do all powerful gods need sycophants?
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>and lie about not being a memvber of a religious cult but then thump the cult bible under another moniker..
funny how it is only the people areguing for their religious cults that have to lie so much on these pages...i thought their mythical god was against such behavior?
John

United States

#70183 Mar 28, 2013
I'm glad we have established your forum has no accountable position of belief or adequate way to weigh evidence.

If that's all you have, its duly noted. I'm not alluding that I think you have an agenda, I know you do. Four years of posting accusations and attacks against Christianity confirms that.

Now if you don't believe in God what's the fixation? You don't believe anything is evidence in this arena. I'm not going to fend off multiple and repeated questions in your forum. You folks are the ones running from any substantive debate. If that's because your nonposition doesn't allow it then stop the lunacy of trying to make your disbelief relevant. One sentence sums up atheism.

Your continued attempts to marginalize belief is entirely different than simply not believing. Most of the world believes something larger than us is responsible for the universe. There are many reasons and rationales why that belief persists. This conclusion is derived in different ways by different people. Some come to the decision based on logic and evidence. Many ex-atheists become believers in this manner. C.S. Lewis being one. To me these are some of the more interesting thinkers on the subject.

Francis Collins mapped our genetic code and sees design. The list is endless and isn't pigeonholed by only one discipline. I don't debate nothing. Do your own homework I'd you want but this narrative you want to convey that belief is absurd and has absolutely no evidence I reject. What I do know is no evidence is good for YOU. Fair enough. Going further and marginalizing belief as you sit on the fence is childish.

There is a reason you don't want to debate your nothing vs my something. You don't know where to begin. I do. I don't care if it satisfies you or not. This is your forum. I don't debate nothing and won't apologize for it.

I will accept your apologies for spending four years attacking reasoned faith you don't have in your own forum. Talk about bait and switch LOL.

....and empatheist no need to apologize for not submitting the second half. It is tiring and you just started. Try to remember that. You are dealing with just a few theists as opposed to the dozens of antitheists I am. Yet another reason I don't feel an obligation to address every nonsensical claim thrown into the mix. You want a debate. You know the terms.

I find it interesting that the evidentiary standard you use and I've exposed is the sole barometer you want to weigh my evidence in your forum is. It must be easy to attack, question, ad infinitum from the fence. Anyone can throw monkey shyte.

....so, another day of nothing commences.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#70184 Mar 28, 2013
John wrote:
I'm glad we have established your forum has no accountable position of belief or adequate way to weigh evidence.
If that's all you have, its duly noted. I'm not alluding that I think you have an agenda, I know you do. Four years of posting accusations and attacks against Christianity confirms that.
Now if you don't believe in God what's the fixation? You don't believe anything is evidence in this arena. I'm not going to fend off multiple and repeated questions in your forum. You folks are the ones running from any substantive debate. If that's because your nonposition doesn't allow it then stop the lunacy of trying to make your disbelief relevant. One sentence sums up atheism.
Your continued attempts to marginalize belief is entirely different than simply not believing. Most of the world believes something larger than us is responsible for the universe. There are many reasons and rationales why that belief persists. This conclusion is derived in different ways by different people. Some come to the decision based on logic and evidence. Many ex-atheists become believers in this manner. C.S. Lewis being one. To me these are some of the more interesting thinkers on the subject.
Francis Collins mapped our genetic code and sees design. The list is endless and isn't pigeonholed by only one discipline. I don't debate nothing. Do your own homework I'd you want but this narrative you want to convey that belief is absurd and has absolutely no evidence I reject. What I do know is no evidence is good for YOU. Fair enough. Going further and marginalizing belief as you sit on the fence is childish.
There is a reason you don't want to debate your nothing vs my something. You don't know where to begin. I do. I don't care if it satisfies you or not. This is your forum. I don't debate nothing and won't apologize for it.
I will accept your apologies for spending four years attacking reasoned faith you don't have in your own forum. Talk about bait and switch LOL.
....and empatheist no need to apologize for not submitting the second half. It is tiring and you just started. Try to remember that. You are dealing with just a few theists as opposed to the dozens of antitheists I am. Yet another reason I don't feel an obligation to address every nonsensical claim thrown into the mix. You want a debate. You know the terms.
I find it interesting that the evidentiary standard you use and I've exposed is the sole barometer you want to weigh my evidence in your forum is. It must be easy to attack, question, ad infinitum from the fence. Anyone can throw monkey shyte.
....so, another day of nothing commences.
What is the difference between what we consider evidence and what you consider evidence? What is the difference in your standard and what you think is ours?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#70185 Mar 28, 2013
John wrote:
I'm glad we have established your forum has no accountable position of belief or adequate way to weigh evidence.
If that's all you have, its duly noted. I'm not alluding that I think you have an agenda, I know you do. Four years of posting accusations and attacks against Christianity confirms that.
Now if you don't believe in God what's the fixation? You don't believe anything is evidence in this arena. I'm not going to fend off multiple and repeated questions in your forum. You folks are the ones running from any substantive debate. If that's because your nonposition doesn't allow it then stop the lunacy of trying to make your disbelief relevant. One sentence sums up atheism.
Your continued attempts to marginalize belief is entirely different than simply not believing. Most of the world believes something larger than us is responsible for the universe. There are many reasons and rationales why that belief persists. This conclusion is derived in different ways by different people. Some come to the decision based on logic and evidence. Many ex-atheists become believers in this manner. C.S. Lewis being one. To me these are some of the more interesting thinkers on the subject.
Francis Collins mapped our genetic code and sees design. The list is endless and isn't pigeonholed by only one discipline. I don't debate nothing. Do your own homework I'd you want but this narrative you want to convey that belief is absurd and has absolutely no evidence I reject. What I do know is no evidence is good for YOU. Fair enough. Going further and marginalizing belief as you sit on the fence is childish.
There is a reason you don't want to debate your nothing vs my something. You don't know where to begin. I do. I don't care if it satisfies you or not. This is your forum. I don't debate nothing and won't apologize for it.
I will accept your apologies for spending four years attacking reasoned faith you don't have in your own forum. Talk about bait and switch LOL.
....and empatheist no need to apologize for not submitting the second half. It is tiring and you just started. Try to remember that. You are dealing with just a few theists as opposed to the dozens of antitheists I am. Yet another reason I don't feel an obligation to address every nonsensical claim thrown into the mix. You want a debate. You know the terms.
I find it interesting that the evidentiary standard you use and I've exposed is the sole barometer you want to weigh my evidence in your forum is. It must be easy to attack, question, ad infinitum from the fence. Anyone can throw monkey shyte.
....so, another day of nothing commences.
TLDR: I john, have no proof of god.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#70186 Mar 28, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Why do all powerful gods need sycophants?
<quoted text>
if there were ever a shred of evidence for one of those gods, we could start that discussion.

get back to me when you get that very first shred...

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#70187 Mar 28, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you give me an example of proof?
What's the matter, can't you? of course you can't - because you're lying about god that's why. You silly fool!
Thinking

Mirfield, UK

#70188 Mar 28, 2013
I know, of course, that you won't be holding your breath.
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>if there were ever a shred of evidence for one of those gods, we could start that discussion.
get back to me when you get that very first shred...
John

United States

#70189 Mar 28, 2013
EmpAtheist wrote:
<quoted text>
What is the difference between what we consider evidence and what you consider evidence? What is the difference in your standard and what you think is ours?
The Christian scientific method is just fine in the mode it was intended. You miss out on a ton of information when you limit your thinking to one all encompassing modality. Perhaps this is semantics and evidence isn't the proper word. Contrary to liar Bob we don't have irrefutable measurement of a conscience but the idea of one existed long before a microscope.

Science is constantly evolving and many things once treated as sacrosanct have been disregarded. Remember when the coccyx was a prehensile tail? Oops. Science is a piece of a puzzle. A big one, but being open to other information/evidence sources isn't anti-science. It's freethinking.

Don't even get me started on grant monies and agendas that start out with a preconceived finding first and the experimental conditions made to fit the coordinated result.

The shroud of Turin has no explanation. Sure there is carbon dating (another issue) but no adequate scientific explanation for the transposed images of a man with wounds etc. Maybe these fishermen and goatherders pulled a fast one our modern day science can't figure out. Maybe some other explanation exists. The difference is I'm open to explanation and atheists say they will wait for evidence. Well, it seems to me that means if science can't address it nothing will. Notice I didn't leap to a conclusion. I'm more a totality of info/circumstance go. I didn't mention the Shroud for any religious statement either.

You expect me to debate evidence with a group that doesn't accept a historical Jesus? Umm, I don't think so. They can hang onto their axes and I'll consider information from wherever I can get it.

At what point do you believe in something? What's the threshold? A beaker and microscope. Do you believe in love? We can see chemical combinations, mri scans of the brain, but that doesn't prove love. Some things are slippery.

I consider my ahem guess to be informed and educated. If you don't, you don't.

Now I'll get back to the bigots. I'm done here and it isn't personal. There are too many antitheists revealing nothing for me to have a side conversation. You want to debate bring some evidence. If not be comfortable enough in your disbelief instead of spending your time on a God you don't believe in.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#70190 Mar 28, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I know, of course, that you won't be holding your breath.
<quoted text>
?!?!?

PHHHEEEWWWwwww....ewww..eww!

Freakin' now you tell me!!!! gasp...gasp...wheeeeeeze...gas p...

still no shred to even make that discussion?

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#70192 Mar 28, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
The Christian scientific method is just fine in the mode it was intended. You miss out on a ton of information when you limit your thinking to one all encompassing modality. Perhaps this is semantics and evidence isn't the proper word. Contrary to liar Bob we don't have irrefutable measurement of a conscience but the idea of one existed long before a microscope.
Science is constantly evolving and many things once treated as sacrosanct have been disregarded. Remember when the coccyx was a prehensile tail? Oops. Science is a piece of a puzzle. A big one, but being open to other information/evidence sources isn't anti-science. It's freethinking.
Don't even get me started on grant monies and agendas that start out with a preconceived finding first and the experimental conditions made to fit the coordinated result.
The shroud of Turin has no explanation. Sure there is carbon dating (another issue) but no adequate scientific explanation for the transposed images of a man with wounds etc. Maybe these fishermen and goatherders pulled a fast one our modern day science can't figure out. Maybe some other explanation exists. The difference is I'm open to explanation and atheists say they will wait for evidence. Well, it seems to me that means if science can't address it nothing will. Notice I didn't leap to a conclusion. I'm more a totality of info/circumstance go. I didn't mention the Shroud for any religious statement either.
You expect me to debate evidence with a group that doesn't accept a historical Jesus? Umm, I don't think so. They can hang onto their axes and I'll consider information from wherever I can get it.
At what point do you believe in something? What's the threshold? A beaker and microscope. Do you believe in love? We can see chemical combinations, mri scans of the brain, but that doesn't prove love. Some things are slippery.
I consider my ahem guess to be informed and educated. If you don't, you don't.
Now I'll get back to the bigots. I'm done here and it isn't personal. There are too many antitheists revealing nothing for me to have a side conversation. You want to debate bring some evidence. If not be comfortable enough in your disbelief instead of spending your time on a God you don't believe in.
I very much appreciate this response! It was well laid out. Thank you.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#70193 Mar 28, 2013
Mariowhatshisname wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure it does, if you believe in "zombies", that are bigoted, and ignorantly tout crystal ball, tarot card reading side show cannibalisTic freakishness, with no moral ideal of right or wrong, that can't read in comprehension beyond a 4rth grade level.
Not everyone believes in that kind of hedonstic crazy shit though.
Thank God.
You did not explain:

Christianity: The belief that some cosmic Jewish Zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

Makes perfect sense.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#70194 Mar 28, 2013
Talkofthewistedndistorted wrote:
<quoted text>
Crazy, hednosisTic, twisted and distorted, hatred and intolerance of that which is bigoted.
Yes. What you said >>does<< explain Genuine Christianity™ all too well.

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