Going to bed but will touch on a reply. Remember I've been doing this for four years and I'm admittedly impatient by now. Your flying spaghetti monster routine wasn't exactly ingratiating but in fairness you probably are miffed with my vernacular. I do mention I'm specifically addressing antitheism from time to time.
This ought to be good -- you have NEVER written ONE argument in support of your mythical "prime mover". Not one.
Why do atheists believe in love? Do you believe we have a conscience? Can you prove it?
Love is easily demonstrated as a combination of chemical and electrical changes in the human brain. It is easily measured too.
Conscience is similar-- and not everyone has one, by the way-- YOU, for example, do not demonstrate one at all-- you lie so constantly, and repeatably, it's safe to assume you haven none.
The question regarding quantitative analysis- how do you decide what is most or least likely of the following: always was, prime mover, something from nothing.
There is zero evidence or argument in support of "prime mover".
Without even ONE (1) argument? Toss that one on the pile of myths.
Unless you have ONE (1) ARGUMENT? NO?
We thought not.
You forgot the 4th case: something from something. Which appears to be the best hypothesis so far. The "something" in this case is other universes colliding.
Show your work. Oh, prime mover is probably what you are thinking. Check out Aristotle and Aquinas for further.
Wow-- you had to go back 2000 years in search of an .. "argument"?
LOL! But I see you failed to... what was it? Yes-- "show your work".
Still no argument in support of your idiotic "prime mover".
The evidence isn't good enough for YOU.
There is no ... ahem "evidence" here -- you didn't "show your work".
You did not even try...
There isn't any evidence good enough for you. God, higher power, is just one of many.
Stop-- there isn't any evidence. Period.
It's NOT a matter of "good enough". It IS a matter of ANY AT ALL.
You have presented none, here.
I believe my faith is reasoned,
You also believe in talking snakes, global floods and other stupid shyt.
Your opinion is ... worthless.
And your faith? Is unreasonable-- as is ALL faith.
IF YOU HAD REASON? YOU WOULD NOT NEED FAITH!
but you keep forgetting; either purposefully or buying into the purposeful forum narrative that I am here to persuade, convert, or proselytize.
You are. The only reason you would come directly to an ATHEIST thread, is to proselytize.
God need not even be mentioned.
But you did-- lots of times, back in 2009. You let slip your real agenda, back then...
It is this forum that attempts to marginalize God.
Successfully, too. You're not helping your "god" case either.
I've just called the bluff and exposed the evidentiary standard in the process.
Really? WHEN? Oh! You're lying again... it's what you do best.
It does require you to have evidence when you say there is no God. All these posts about simple disbelief belies that assertation. I know the score.
Nobody says that-- we say YOUR god isn't real, though-- because you accidentally let slip the exact nature of YOUR god, and it's all fiction.
A being that is self-contradictory cannot exist, stupid!
By the way I post from my phone and things are sometimes jumbled or misspelled as a result.
Too poor to afford a real computer? That figures...