Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70629 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Madscot

United States

#69488 Mar 10, 2013
madscot wrote:
<quoted text>When was the last time you saw atheists protesting to have atheism taught in schools?
Why would they?

Try thinking about it for a minute.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#69489 Mar 10, 2013
John wrote:
Good, then answer the questions.
I've been here since page one in 2009 Bob. I don't run from much. Certainly not this exposed forum.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. True science that is repeatable and observable.
After YOU answer this:

Give ONE argument... JUST ONE, that supports your prime mover.

I get to keep my $1000, as you run from this too, like the little coward you are.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#69490 Mar 10, 2013
John wrote:
I'll bet you 10,000 dollars you have no evidence in this arena that meets the standards you hold others accountable to. Now, you raise it to 100,000 LOL. After a few hundred years of adding zeroes the numbers will look like Obamas deficit; the man you voted for loon.
Poor Bob always making illogical choices. What a farce of a forum. True freethinkers see your collective bigotry and intellectual cowardice and steer very clear.
I already bet you that you would refuse to give even ONE argument in favor of your prime mover.

You are the one making claims.

YOU are the one who needs to state your arguments.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#69491 Mar 10, 2013
John wrote:
I find it interesting you have decided to address my choice of words as one of very few theists in this forum rather than the dozens of vile, expletive laden, and frequent ANTI-atheists.
While you may be quite a fellow I have done this dance countless times since 2009 ...
Lie.

If this were true? You could post a link to the ... ahem... "countless times".

Can you do it? No?

We thought not.

Meanwhile, here's rather a large number of links of ANSWERS to your ... ahem... "questions".

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“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#69492 Mar 10, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
Bill is that you?
Still no evidence or accountable position in an atheism forum.
March, march, hate that God, march, march
Define what you mean when you use the term nothing.
Lincoln

United States

#69493 Mar 10, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>\
Your "questions" were unworthy of a reasoned response.
They weren't so much "questions" as they were rants on your part.
So naturally they were simply ignored as propaganda.
You, on the other hand?
YOU have NO arguments AT ALL for your... ahem... "prime mover".
Not even ONE claim in support of your silly idea.
Why?
Pope Quantum XI...
"Your "questions" were unworthy of a reasoned response."
.... likely the atheist-bot could not figure out a response.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#69494 Mar 10, 2013
John wrote:
I find it interesting you have decided to address my choice of words as one of very few theists in this forum rather than the dozens of vile, expletive laden, and frequent ANTI-atheists.
While you may be quite a fellow I have done this dance countless times since 2009 all because of simple questions. I was clear I did not have any disdain whatsoever for atheists. You can research that if you would like. I'm beyond the point of rehashing four years worth of posts.
I was also clear I was not here to convert. My challenge of debating the evidences and reasons I believe in a prime mover vs any other accountable position was the direct result of a forum attempting to marginalize believers as its purpose. Nothing is evidence in this arena according to this forums standard. That being said if one engages in attacking the God they don't believe in test after year with such hard and venom,...well, I call that a bigot and a loon.
Do you have any evidence in this arena that meets the standards this forum holds others accountable to?
How do you decide what is moat or least likely: something from nothing, always was, prime mover. Show your work.
I know you have seen these questions before and skipped them. You are viewing this exchange four years in. There was a time I wanted an adult discuasion. Now I really don't care. I have exposed antitheism. If you simply don't believe, I have and have never had an issue with that.
Perhaps you should address the bigots on this forum instead of me. The evidence is all over the place.
Take care
Thank you for the response. Yes, being I'm new here I have only seen a small fraction of what has been happening. I won't pretend I believe that you are the only one throwing insults. After 4 years i would imagine you are exhausted and I don't have any magic words that probably haven't already been said. As far as someone insulting the Christian god or the idea of him existing... You may be offended but it's not bigotry. It is bigotry when they attack Christian's and call them stupid people. Like you can think it is stupid to not believe in god. That's fine. And although these beliefs/non-belief are what define the categories they fit into... It's not the same thing. If i thought drinking coffee was stupid... I could insult coffee and express my problem with it and how I think it is stupid that people drink it... But I don't feel they a stupid people... So I am not going to insult them... One the coffee drinking part.:-)

I have a bias. I am an atheist. So yes... I am going to be looking for Christian comments on here more than atheist ones. I'm sure plenty of atheists are being jerks. It doesn't shock me at all. They fall on both sides. I won't argue with you on this. You probably have been attacked a lot on here.

Back to the issue... Prime mover vs. any other accountable position.
The odds are good i won't say anything you haven't already heard... So maybe we can build from them and maybe not.

First, the problem is that atheists don't make a claim. They reject one specific one.
I don't know how we got here.
If i laid a cookie on my kitchen table and left the room for a second... Then I returned and found the door open and my cookie missing.... I don't know who or what took my cookie. If someone told me it was a whale that took my cookie... I would reject that. I don't witness whales swimming trough air or walking. We could discover that whales can fly and love cookies... Then I would include that as a possibility... But until that happens, it is not equally as likely as the neighbors son being sneaky.

I know you don't see god being a ridiculous answer... We do because although science is always making new discoveries ... Something Supernatural has never been the answer. Everything originally thought to be supernatural has eventually been discovered to be natural. I see no reason to believe in a god. That is all.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#69495 Mar 11, 2013
EmpAtheist wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for the response. Yes, being I'm new here I have only seen a small fraction of what has been happening. I won't pretend I believe that you are the only one throwing insults. After 4 years i would imagine you are exhausted and I don't have any magic words that probably haven't already been said. As far as someone insulting the Christian god or the idea of him existing... You may be offended but it's not bigotry. It is bigotry when they attack Christian's and call them stupid people. Like you can think it is stupid to not believe in god. That's fine. And although these beliefs/non-belief are what define the categories they fit into... It's not the same thing. If i thought drinking coffee was stupid... I could insult coffee and express my problem with it and how I think it is stupid that people drink it... But I don't feel they a stupid people... So I am not going to insult them... One the coffee drinking part.:-)
I have a bias. I am an atheist. So yes... I am going to be looking for Christian comments on here more than atheist ones. I'm sure plenty of atheists are being jerks. It doesn't shock me at all. They fall on both sides. I won't argue with you on this. You probably have been attacked a lot on here.
Back to the issue... Prime mover vs. any other accountable position.
The odds are good i won't say anything you haven't already heard... So maybe we can build from them and maybe not.
First, the problem is that atheists don't make a claim. They reject one specific one.
I don't know how we got here.
If i laid a cookie on my kitchen table and left the room for a second... Then I returned and found the door open and my cookie missing.... I don't know who or what took my cookie. If someone told me it was a whale that took my cookie... I would reject that. I don't witness whales swimming trough air or walking. We could discover that whales can fly and love cookies... Then I would include that as a possibility... But until that happens, it is not equally as likely as the neighbors son being sneaky.
I know you don't see god being a ridiculous answer... We do because although science is always making new discoveries ... Something Supernatural has never been the answer. Everything originally thought to be supernatural has eventually been discovered to be natural. I see no reason to believe in a god. That is all.
Well done.

And here's $100 that Nothing-John will ignore 100% of your points, and simply go back to SPAMMING as per his usual habit.

:)
John

United States

#69496 Mar 11, 2013
How many time have you trotted those links out Bob? One/two dozen. This is the kind of garbage I'm talking about in my response to empatheist. Your forum doesn't deserve respect or honest debate. It's your forum and for four years you have either lied, avoided, marginalized, etc. Not once have you provided evidence or an accountable position.

I guarrantee not one of those links has any evidence or an accountable position. You are one shady nothing.

Let's all wait on Bob to open up his magic link. Charlatan.
John

United States

#69497 Mar 11, 2013
Does this forum have any evidence that meets the criteria they hold others to? Yes or no.
Lincoln

United States

#69498 Mar 11, 2013
John wrote:
How many time have you trotted those links out Bob? One/two dozen. This is the kind of garbage I'm talking about in my response to empatheist. Your forum doesn't deserve respect or honest debate. It's your forum and for four years you have either lied, avoided, marginalized, etc. Not once have you provided evidence or an accountable position.
I guarrantee not one of those links has any evidence or an accountable position. You are one shady nothing.
Let's all wait on Bob to open up his magic link. Charlatan.
May be a Christian simply posting as an idiot?
Lincoln

United States

#69499 Mar 11, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Lie.
If this were true? You could post a link to the ... ahem... "countless times".
Can you do it? No?
We thought not.
Meanwhile, here's rather a large number of links of ANSWERS to your ... ahem... "questions".
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Yes!
See what you are talking about.
Seems a hoax of some type.
Thinking

Winsford, UK

#69500 Mar 11, 2013
Yes.
John wrote:
Does this forum have any evidence that meets the criteria they hold others to? Yes or no.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#69501 Mar 11, 2013
John wrote:
How many time have you trotted those links out Bob? One/two dozen.
And how many times have you RUN AWAY like the little cowardly godbot you are?

LOL!

You are afraid of clicking on ANY ONE-- for you KNOW they each and every one PROVE you to be a little lying godbot.

LOL!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#69502 Mar 11, 2013
John wrote:
Does this forum have any evidence that meets the criteria they hold others to? Yes or no.
I'm STILL waiting for ONE (1) argument you have in support of your...

...ahem...

... "prime mover".

One argument is all I ask-- can you do it?

Or will you continue to run like the coward you are?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#69503 Mar 11, 2013
John wrote:
I guarrantee not one of those links has any evidence or an accountable position. You are one shady nothing.
How could you tell?

You -- the coward-christian-- are AFRAID to open up even ONE link, post a quotation of said link, and REFUTE it.

Your cowardice is legendary.
John

United States

#69504 Mar 11, 2013
LOL. I've seen this nothing all too often Bob. You skipped the questions and slithered away from your irrelevant links.

I'm happy to expose your nothing as long as you trot it out.
John

United States

#69505 Mar 11, 2013
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle ithought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 66,720 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#69506 Mar 11, 2013
What are your thoughts on my last response to you, John?
Thinking

Winsford, UK

#69507 Mar 11, 2013
Same weak christard wank posted here: http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...

F**k you John, you lying spamtard.
John wrote:
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle ithought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 66,720 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

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