Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70650 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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John

United States

#68987 Mar 2, 2013
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 66,200 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#68988 Mar 2, 2013
John wrote:
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 66,200 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!
The only person ducking questions is you.
John

United States

#68989 Mar 2, 2013
Answer mine and stop being a hypocrite and you won't have that problem. You skipped my questions by the way. What a farce this forum is.

“I'm out hunting”

Since: Jan 10

For your mind and soul

#68990 Mar 2, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
The myth of Atheist obligation.
That is the belief that atheists are for some reason obligated to explain how life, the universe and everything began just because they don't believe "Zap! God did it!".
Exactly. They think that just because we cannot explain everything that this equals to being proof of their god. They will not argue for proof of their magical skydaddy from their own proof cause they have none. All they can do is try to poke holes in the theory of Evolution and try to use them to argue the existence of their god as if atheism depended upon the theory of Evolution for subsistence.They wasnt simple answers for everything, instead of engaging in real scientific inquiry.

“I'm out hunting”

Since: Jan 10

For your mind and soul

#68991 Mar 2, 2013
John wrote:
Absolutely no evidence at all that meets the atheists criteria. Nothing is evidence to them.
Where is the evidence of your magical Skydad?

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#68992 Mar 2, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>they are quite plentiful in space.
there are amino acids in space.
Where did those come from?

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#68993 Mar 2, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>so someone asked where the oganic molecule on the early earth came from...
Still asking.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#68994 Mar 2, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>Simple chemical reactions between carbon and other elements.
All of those elements came from nuclear reactions in the cores of stars.
So this life stuff came from the core of a star and landed on earth in a mud puddle and then lighting struck and created life?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#68995 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Where did those come from?
normal gathering together of elements and molecules.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#68996 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>So this life stuff came from the core of a star and landed on earth in a mud puddle and then lighting struck and created life?
Lightning
John

United States

#68997 Mar 2, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>
Where is the evidence of your magical Skydad?
I don't know what this means or what it has to do with your nothing. You skipped my questions by the way. That damn atheist coward gene is shining through.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#68998 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
So this life stuff came from the core of a star and landed on earth in a mud puddle and then lighting struck and created life?
Still using the creationist linguine.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#68999 Mar 2, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know what this means or what it has to do with your nothing. You skipped my questions by the way. That damn atheist coward gene is shining through.
Wait, so you think atheism is a genetic trait ... yet you deny evolution. Classic troll.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#69000 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
So this life stuff came from the core of a star and landed on earth in a mud puddle and then lighting struck and created life?
Lightning, radiation, heat. lots of energy being added to this mixing of molecules and chemicals.

then again, life may have first come to be someplace else under circumstnaces we wouldn't have had on Earth or wouldn't even know of yet.

there are many types of life that we know of that can handle the rigors of extended apace travel.

panspermia, it's just a fun word!

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#69001 Mar 2, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>normal gathering together of elements and molecules.
So why then is there no life swimming around in space?

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#69002 Mar 2, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Lightning, radiation, heat. lots of energy being added to this mixing of molecules and chemicals.

then again, life may have first come to be someplace else under circumstnaces we wouldn't have had on Earth or wouldn't even know of yet.

there are many types of life that we know of that can handle the rigors of extended apace travel.

panspermia, it's just a fun word!
I was going off of what rose believes in on how life started. Just trying to grasp how that could be any stronger of an argument then a creator.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#69003 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
So why then is there no life swimming around in space?
Who says there isn't? Of course even if there wasn't, it doesn't discount panspermia. You should actually ... um ... study things before trying to address them. Panspermia is one of those very feasible notions, one of the promising abiogenesis hypothesis that may just pan out over the terrestrial one. Only when they are actually done testing the information will we know which holds water the best, if either do, or maybe both.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#69004 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
I was going off of what rose believes in on how life started. Just trying to grasp how that could be any stronger of an argument then a creator.
Simple, adding in the creator you still need the "puddle, elements and energy," all you do is add a bunch of new questions of "where did the creator come from?" or "what created the creator?" as well as "which of the creators is more likely possible?" and finally "why did all the religions get the wrong creator?"

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#69005 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
I was going off of what rose believes in on how life started. Just trying to grasp how that could be any stronger of an argument then a creator.
Because there is not one teensy eensy shred of evidence of any creator.

there is tons of evidence that all the building blocks of life are readily abundant in the universe and life seems to thrive in even the most hostile of environments we have physically looked at.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#69006 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
So why then is there no life swimming around in space?
how do you know there isn't?

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