Atheists on the march in America

There are 20 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#68378 Feb 15, 2013
BBSting wrote:
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That's the assumption anyway, but it doesn't explain what "caused" the big bang.
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So the story goes, but science cannot explain where this really small SOMETHING came from, or why it suddenly expanded to form the universe.
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Science does not acknowledge a "something else" leaving one to assume that NOTHING caused this very small SOMETHING to expand. To say everything came from the Big Bang is like saying babies come from maternity wards, the theory doesn't go back far enough.
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Like the big bang theory, there is an hypothesis: "I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness. Science cannot solve the ultimate mystery of nature. And that is because, in the last analysis, we ourselves are part of nature and therefore part of the mystery that we are trying to solve." - Max Planck
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Enter God, a primary nonphysical gestalt of consciousness, which was, is and will always be. And which exists within and behind all systems and universes. What it boils down to then, is whose THEORY is more believable and makes more sense. Primary consciousness is more believable and makes more sense than NOTHING.
Why would you "Enter God..." when there is no evidence at all that one exists?

that would be like Einstein throwing in his cosmological constant to explain what he couldn't figure out; his greatest mistake...
John

East Saint Louis, IL

#68379 Feb 15, 2013
You loons skipped my questions. Must be tough running from your nothing day after day. Prove there is no evidence of God Woodtick. Nothing is evidence to you so your nonpoints aren't necessary. Since you bigots are so fixated on a God you don't believe in I welcome debating my accountable position vs whatever nonsense you choose.

It's revealing you cowards won't dare take that challenge. Still going strong since 2009. Contrary to your claims many disciplines have found reasons/evidences for something larger than us. It's the only position with evidence LOL. Just not enough for you. That's fine. Your nothing is on record. End forum.

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#68380 Feb 15, 2013
John wrote:
You loons skipped my questions. Must be tough running from your nothing day after day. Prove there is no evidence of God Woodtick. Nothing is evidence to you so your nonpoints aren't necessary. Since you bigots are so fixated on a God you don't believe in I welcome debating my accountable position vs whatever nonsense you choose.
It's revealing you cowards won't dare take that challenge. Still going strong since 2009. Contrary to your claims many disciplines have found reasons/evidences for something larger than us. It's the only position with evidence LOL. Just not enough for you. That's fine. Your nothing is on record. End forum.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.
i have proved the re isno evidence of god. i've asked you for one shred for years and you have provided not one...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#68381 Feb 15, 2013
John wrote:
Rose continues to cite disbelief as her accountable position of belief. Coward Bob thinks collecting dozens of BS responses and linking them proves something.
It does prove something:

It proves to 100% that YOU are TOO COWARD to click on any.

For you KNOW they prove you to be a liar.

LOL!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#68382 Feb 15, 2013
BBSting wrote:
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That's the assumption anyway, but it doesn't explain what "caused" the big bang.
Doesn't matter.

One thing is >>certain<<.

Your mythical god was NOT the cause.

That is certain to 100%, too.

I've already outlined why...

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#68383 Feb 15, 2013
BSing wrote:
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That's the assumption anyway, but it doesn't explain what "caused" the big bang.
So what?
That doesn't change the fact that the creation story in Genesis is a Bronze Age myth.
BSing wrote:
So the story goes, but science cannot explain where this really small SOMETHING came from, or why it suddenly expanded to form the universe.
<quoted text>
So what?
That doesn't mean "Zap! God did it!".
BSing wrote:
Science does not acknowledge a "something else" leaving one to assume that NOTHING caused this very small SOMETHING to expand. To say everything came from the Big Bang is like saying babies come from maternity wards, the theory doesn't go back far enough.
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Have you taken a basic science class?
It doesn't seem like you have.
Science doesn't acknowledge a "something else" because there is no evidence for it. You can assume what you like. Personally, I believe our concepts of cause and effect had no meaning at the point of the big bang.
BSing wrote:
Like the big bang theory, there is an hypothesis: "I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness. Science cannot solve the ultimate mystery of nature. And that is because, in the last analysis, we ourselves are part of nature and therefore part of the mystery that we are trying to solve." - Max Planck
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Enter God,
Something made up to fill in the blanks.
BSing wrote:
a primary nonphysical gestalt of consciousness, which was, is and will always be. And which exists within and behind all systems and universes. What it boils down to then, is whose THEORY is more believable and makes more sense. Primary consciousness is more believable and makes more sense than NOTHING.
Straw man.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#68384 Feb 15, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>incorrect. there is no proof of any god so it isn't up for discussion yet. when your cult finds that proof, then it will even be an issue.

basically i'm saying your deepest held beliefs are a non-issue in the real world.
There is no proof that the Big Bang was an exploding singularity but you'll see people talking about that all the time.

God is up for discussion just not with Dolts like you.

Your positive assertion is showing.
Atheist - Have a belief that no God exist. Not the absents of belief, if that was the case they that would be agnostic.
The atheist belief is a positive assertion therefore it is a religion and falls under the same rules as all positive assertion Those rules would be that the burden of proof falls on you.

Ticky;
Where is your proof of no God?

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#68385 Feb 15, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
Still waiting for ANY evidence of god's existence.
Free clues:
Buy-bull quotes don't count, and asking me for proof god doesn't exist doesn't count.
I said Quiet Ho!

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#68386 Feb 15, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>There's no such thing as god, satan or souls. You are projecting your mental illness on us all.
No you're projecting your positive assertion of no God.

Do you have your helmet on?
I would Hate to have you fall down and cause Yourself to have more brain damage.

See I do care about you sceptic.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#68387 Feb 15, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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I said Quiet Ho!
Why, are you embarrassed by not having an answer?
John

East Saint Louis, IL

#68388 Feb 15, 2013
Thanks for nothing Richard. You should be embarrased at how easily exposed your nonsense is. Let's compare the evidence of a prime mover vs ????. Be proud of your ???

Still no evidence or accountable position in the atheism.forum.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#68389 Feb 15, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>Why, are you embarrassed by not having an answer?
What are you on?

More important where can I get some!?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#68391 Feb 15, 2013
BBSting wrote:
<quoted text>
That's the assumption anyway, but it doesn't explain what "caused" the big bang.
<quoted text>
So the story goes, but science cannot explain where this really small SOMETHING came from, or why it suddenly expanded to form the universe.
<quoted text>
Science does not acknowledge a "something else" leaving one to assume that NOTHING caused this very small SOMETHING to expand. To say everything came from the Big Bang is like saying babies come from maternity wards, the theory doesn't go back far enough.
<quoted text>
Like the big bang theory, there is an hypothesis: "I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness. Science cannot solve the ultimate mystery of nature. And that is because, in the last analysis, we ourselves are part of nature and therefore part of the mystery that we are trying to solve." - Max Planck
<quoted text>
Enter God, a primary nonphysical gestalt of consciousness, which was, is and will always be. And which exists within and behind all systems and universes. What it boils down to then, is whose THEORY is more believable and makes more sense. Primary consciousness is more believable and makes more sense than NOTHING.
Religious liar with no proof of god

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#68392 Feb 15, 2013
So BBretard's argument is... If we don't have all the answers say god must have done it!

Hey maybe he used this in school!
Test question: who built the pyramids!
BB: god.
Who invented the automobile?
BB: god.
What is 9 x 9=
BB: god.
Who was the first Caesar?
BB: god.
Why does the weather grow colder in the winter?
BB: god.

No wonder he never made it our of the 5th grade!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#68393 Feb 15, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Religious liar with no proof of god
Is not the phrase "religious liar" redundant?

Are not, by definition, all religious types also liars?

In that they all claim to have "faith"?

And we see that the "faith" they have, is basically... a lie?

A lie they have been told so many times, they forgot it was a lie?

... meh.

But you are correct: he has offered no proof or even a single argument even, for his god.

Sad.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#68394 Feb 15, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
So BBretard's argument is... If we don't have all the answers say god must have done it!
Hey maybe he used this in school!
Test question: who built the pyramids!
BB: god.
Who invented the automobile?
BB: god.
What is 9 x 9=
BB: god.
Who was the first Caesar?
BB: god.
Why does the weather grow colder in the winter?
BB: god.
No wonder he never made it our of the 5th grade!
And after 10 years of trying, too!

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#68395 Feb 15, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Why would you "Enter God..." when there is no evidence at all that one exists?
that would be like Einstein throwing in his cosmological constant to explain what he couldn't figure out; his greatest mistake...
If atheists can believe NOTHING caused the SOMETHING to form the universe without scientific evidence, the religious can also believe God created the universe without scientific evidence.

For those who believe, or who sense a greater reality, the way to God is by way of the heart, not the intellect. Often the heart already knows what the intellect must rationalize. You cannot objectify that which is not physical (primary consciousness), you can only experience it.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#68396 Feb 15, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>i have proved the re isno evidence of god. i've asked you for one shred for years and you have provided not one...
You have proved that atheists are as fervent in their disbelief in God as the religious are in their belief in God.

Since: Feb 12

Taipei, Taiwan

#68397 Feb 15, 2013
BBSting wrote:
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You have proved that atheists are as fervent in their disbelief in God as the religious are in their belief in God.
We have proved that we believe in what we see and what is logical after all of our education
John

East Saint Louis, IL

#68398 Feb 15, 2013
Your nothing is illogical. A forum that repeats nothing is irrational.

You don't have a single example of evidence in this arena that meets the criteria you hold others to.

You don't have any clue how to quantify possibility. For instance, what is most or least likely: prime mover, something from nothing, always was. Show your freethinking.

Now, let us compare your nothing to my something. You loons throw out words like evidence, logical, natural. Pfft, you can't even make up a beginning that is ahem natural.

Simple bigots exposed day after day. Thanks for the help.

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