Atheists on the march in America

Aug 26, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: TurkishPress.com

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
Poor, poor John-- he's still searching for a fight that he can cowardly run away from.
Again.
Very sad.
It's a damn shame about his brains.
Did they ever find it? I understand they used a scanning electron-microscope... set to scan for individual atoms... and still couldn't fine a brain for John.
Remember that story in the buybull about how one prophet called the priest of Baal and demanded that they ask him to prove his existence by asking Baal to send down a fire. When Baal did not, the prophet killed his priests. Well we are waiting for priest John to have his god send us some proof, should we dispose of him if he does not like his god's people did to the priests of Baal?
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You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 64,780 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

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John wrote:
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 64,780 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!
oh look another worthless post with no proof of god in it from the king of liars
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You don't believe in God and no in here is trying to convert you. Your nothing is so small without this God you don't believe in though.

Thanks for nothing.

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John wrote:
You don't believe in God and no in here is trying to convert you. Your nothing is so small without this God you don't believe in though.
Thanks for nothing.
Thanks for more "no proof" of god!!! but will you stop lying about it? Nah....

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-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for more "no proof" of god!!! but will you stop lying about it? Nah....
Septic,
Or should I call you Tank for short?
Play with this for awhile if its not to tough for you.

"Evolutionists generally believe that although the spontaneous generation of life from non-living matter was a highly improbable event, the amount of time available is long enough to overcome this problem. This fallacy is because they (and most of us, really) just haven’t gotten around to some actual calculating on some of these problems.
The difficult thing is to conceive the size of some of the figures obtained. James F. Coppedge in the bookEvolution: Possible or Impossible? has given some fascinating examples, one of which is here presented. Consider first this statement from the evolutionist George Wald writing on The Origin of Life in the Scientific American (1954):
Time is in fact the hero of the plot. The time with which we have to deal is of the order of two billion years. What we regard as impossible on the basis of human experience is meaningless there. Given so much time, the “impossible” becomes possible; the possible probable, and the probable virtually certain. One has only to wait; time itself performs the miracles.
Now using Coppedge’s figures, let’s take a look at the time it would take for one simple gene to arrange itself by chance. Remember, natural selection cannot operate until a self-replicating system is produced. Of course, this gene by itself is still only a dead molecule in the absence of other genes and other complex chemicals all perfectly arranged in time and space. Nevertheless, let us use as many sets as there are atoms in the universe. Let us give chance the unbelievable number of attempts of eight trillion tries per second in each set! At this speed on average it would take 10^147 years to obtain just one stable gene. What does this number really mean? Let’s look at Coppedge’s example; assume we have an amoeba—and let’s assume that this little creature is given the task of carrying matter, one atom at a time from one edge of the universe to the other (though to be about thirty billion light years in diameter). Let’s further assume that this amoeba moves at the incredible slow pace of one Angstrom until (about the diameter of a hydrogen atom) every fifteen billion years (this is the assumed age of the universe assigned by many evolutionists). How much matter could this amoeba carry in this time calculated to arrange just one usable gene by chance? The answer is that he would be able to carry 2 x 10^21 complete universes!
This means that all the people living on earth, man, woman and child, counting day and night, would be counting for five thousand years just to count the number of entire universes which this amoeba would have transported across a distance of thirty billion light years, one atom at a time.
Coppedge’s book makes fascinating reading in other respects and is one of the few works that really comes to grips with this matter of molecular biology and probability mathematics.
Evolutionists would have us believe that modern molecular biology lends its support to their world view, but the more information comes to hand, the more preposterous the whole idea of a naturalistic origin of life becomes."

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/cm/v...

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Langoliers wrote:
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Septic,
Or should I call you Tank for short?
Play with this for awhile if its not to tough for you.
"Evolutionists generally believe that although the spontaneous generation of life from non-living matter was a highly improbable event, the amount of time available is long enough to overcome this problem. This fallacy is because they (and most of us, really) just haven’t gotten around to some actual calculating on some of these problems.
The difficult thing is to conceive the size of some of the figures obtained. James F. Coppedge in the bookEvolution: Possible or Impossible? has given some fascinating examples, one of which is here presented. Consider first this statement from the evolutionist George Wald writing on The Origin of Life in the Scientific American (1954):
Time is in fact the hero of the plot. The time with which we have to deal is of the order of two billion years. What we regard as impossible on the basis of human experience is meaningless there. Given so much time, the “impossible” becomes possible; the possible probable, and the probable virtually certain. One has only to wait; time itself performs the miracles.
Now using Coppedge’s figures, let’s take a look at the time it would take for one simple gene to arrange itself by chance. Remember, natural selection cannot operate until a self-replicating system is produced. Of course, this gene by itself is still only a dead molecule in the absence of other genes and other complex chemicals all perfectly arranged in time and space. Nevertheless, let us use as many sets as there are atoms in the universe. Let us give chance the unbelievable number of attempts of eight trillion tries per second in each set! At this speed on average it would take 10^147 years to obtain just one stable gene. What does this number really mean? Let’s look at Coppedge’s example; assume we have an amoeba—and let’s assume that this little creature is given the task of carrying matter, one atom at a time from one edge of the universe to the other (though to be about thirty billion light years in diameter). Let’s further assume that this amoeba moves at the incredible slow pace of one Angstrom until (about the diameter of a hydrogen atom) every fifteen billion years (this is the assumed age of the universe assigned by many evolutionists). How much matter could this amoeba carry in this time calculated to arrange just one usable gene by chance? The answer is that he would be able to carry 2 x 10^21 complete universes!
This means that all the people living on earth, man, woman and child, counting day and night, would be counting for five thousand years just to count the number of entire universes which this amoeba would have transported across a distance of thirty billion light years, one atom at a time.
Coppedge’s book makes fascinating reading in other respects and is one of the few works that really comes to grips with this matter of molecular biology and probability mathematics.
Evolutionists would have us believe that modern molecular biology lends its support to their world view, but the more information comes to hand, the more preposterous the whole idea of a naturalistic origin of life becomes."
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/cm/v...
So you accept a flat out lie from a source just because it supports your delusion, not surprising.
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Antitheists flock to any bullshit theory they think marginalizes the God they don't believe in. It's unfortunate because science with an agenda limits progress.

The evidence of something larger than us being responsible for the universe is fast becoming the accepted idea despite nothinkers agenda. Just like the global warming agenda driven crowd the house of cards will come crashing down.

How does an antitheist rank the following- always was, something from nothing, prime mover? You loons don't give a shyte about evidence, logic, rationality, etc.

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KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>So you accept a flat out lie from a source just because it supports your delusion, not surprising.
Fossil record
Evolution is all about constant change, whether gradual or in leaps. Consider a cloud in the sky: it is constantly changing shape due to natural forces. It might look like, say, a rabbit now, and a few minutes later appear to be, say, a horse. In between, the whole mass is shifting about. In a few more minutes it may look like a bird. The problem for evolution is that we never see the shifting between shapes in the fossil record. All fossils are of complete animals and plants, not works in progress "under construction". That is why we can give each distinct plant or animal a name. If evolution's continuous morphing were really going on, every fossil would show change underway throughout the creature, with parts in various stages of completion. For every successful change there should be many more that lead to nothing. The whole process is random trial and error, without direction. So every plant and animal, living or fossil, should be covered inside and out with useless growths and have parts under construction. It is a grotesque image, and just what the theory of evolution really predicts. Even Charles Darwin had a glimpse of the problem in his day. He wrote in his book On the Origin of Species: "The number of intermediate varieties which have formerly existed on Earth must be truly enormous. Why then is not every geological formation and every stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely graduated organic chain; and this, perhaps, is the most obvious and gravest objection which can be urged against my theory." The more fossils that are found, the better sense we have of what lived in the past. Since Darwin's day, the number of fossils that have been collected has grown tremendously, so we now have a pretty accurate picture. The gradual morphing of one type of creature to another that evolution predicts is nowhere to be found. There should have been millions of transitional creatures if evolution were true. In the "tree of life" that evolutionists have dreamed up, gaps in the fossil record are especially huge between single-cell creatures, complex invertebrates (such as snails, jellyfish, trilobites, clams, and sponges), and what evolutionists claim were the first vertebrates, fish. In fact, there are no fossil ancestors at all for complex invertebrates or fish. That alone is fatal to the theory of evolution. The fossil record shows that evolution never happened."

http://www.newgeology.us/presentation32.html

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Answers in genesis.

Are you seriously this stupid? Is your IQ really this low? Just don't go on that shooting spree against the non believers that you spoke of earlier.
Langoliers wrote:
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Strong nothing there Liberty. The 2nd amendment is in place in case of leftist power grabs. The kinds atheists have used throughout history to butcher the masses. You don't believe in the Constitution though do you? Of course not you ahem self professed freethinkers get damn neat everything wrong.

Maybe we should have a litmus test for nutbags like you to have internet access. You gotta evidence that meets your own criteria yet?

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emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>Remember that story in the buybull about how one prophet called the priest of Baal and demanded that they ask him to prove his existence by asking Baal to send down a fire. When Baal did not, the prophet killed his priests. Well we are waiting for priest John to have his god send us some proof, should we dispose of him if he does not like his god's people did to the priests of Baal?
I'd say "go for it", except from the fact that I'm not as bloody-minded as the BuyBull's worshipers.

And, as I suspect, neither are you.

It's one of several differences between Non-believers and True Believers.

Non-believers tend to be nicer to people who are different.

True Believers, such as Nothing-John tend to try to murder anyone different.

As they did in the past all too often.

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John wrote:
Strong nothing there Liberty. The 2nd amendment is in place ...
Stop.

Stop right there: the 2nd Amendment says:

"... a WELL REGULATED militia shall not be infringed...(emphasis mine).

The words "well regulated" mean anything to you?

No?

That figures-- you would as soon SHOOT anyone who is not like you, as you would say 'Hi' to them.

Admit it-- you really want to shoot (murder) all non-believers, don't you?
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So predictable. We could start with you don't even have any evidence that meets the criteria you hold others accountable to. As if your ill will vett who does and doesn't get afforded a Constitutional right. You don't believe in the Constitution or the founding fathers vision at all loon. You cowards voted for the statist Obama and its obvious his politics will have the same fate as those who went down this road before him. Of course there have always been useful idiots. Leftists always seek to take liberty and freedom.

Like a typical liberal atheist coward Bob would like his clown prince to do his dirty work. Can't wait.

Now let's talk about benefits for gay illegals or women in combat. These pressing issues need to be addressed. There are people starving to death tonight because of your Obama vote. Keep marching loons. You might not like what you find at the end.

Gun and evidence free zone!

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John wrote:
Like a typical liberal atheist coward Bob would like his clown prince to do his dirty work. Can't wait.
Non-arguments duly noted and registered.

I see you cowardly run away as per your habit.

Next!

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John wrote:
Now let's talk about benefits for gay illegals or women in combat. These pressing issues need to be addressed. There are people starving to death tonight because of your Obama vote. Keep marching loons. You might not like what you find at the end.
Gun and evidence free zone!
Let's talk about your hate for anyone who is... poor.

Classic selfish True Believers-- you are >>against<< all programs that might help out a fellow human who's down on their luck.

Typical selfishness, I might add.

You ReThuglicans are so stupid, you don't even realize your politicians >>only<< care about the top 1%.

Even as you wallow in near-poverty yourself...

... sad.
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Of course your post is bereft of evidence. You anti-American radicals have no problem cheerleading for an ideology whose endgame cannot work. 8.5 million less out of the workforce despite bankrupting future generations. You, sir are bat shit crazy and will reap what you sow.

Save your heartstring arguments loon. Entitlement programs enslave. I'll decide to whom and what I spend my money. Your vote ensured millions won't eat tonight. How charitable. Keep up the charitable work. Progressives are so charitable they kill a child every ninety seconds. Look in the mirror evil one.

Try some facts for a chancge. I know that is asking a lot for a bigot that has posted in a forum about nothing for years.

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.
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Another day of ineptitude from the antitheists.*Note to lurkers* They have gone almost three years without giving one accountable position they are willing to debate. Three years without an example of evidence that meets their criteria for evidence. These are angry agenda driven folks that don't give a damn about the evidence.
If you want to subject yourself to this farce by all means see for yourself. Antitheists you could also just cut and paste one of the 64,800 posts to show otherwise.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. True
science that is repeatable and observable.

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Another day of lies, bigotry and hate from John.

Classic.
hijack yatch

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
Another day of lies, bigotry and hate from John.
Classic.
QT-faith physic!!;-000

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