Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70645 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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John

United States

#67775 Feb 8, 2013
Good night. Thanks for all the evidence to consider.

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.
John

United States

#67776 Feb 8, 2013
Remember folks atheism is the absence of hate. Bwahahaha!!!!#$@

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#67777 Feb 8, 2013
John wrote:
Remember folks atheism is the absence of hate. Bwahahaha!!!!#$@
LOL

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#67778 Feb 8, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
If life was self generating why does all life have DNA? one would think with all the different plant and animal life on the planet at least one other type of genetic coding would have arose, Using mutation and randomness. Rather odd that all life uses the same DNA coding.
Except that it doesn't. There *are* variants of the DNA to amino acid 'code'. For example, the mitochondria in your cells use a different code. There are also variants in archaebacteria. We have viruses with no DNA, only RNA.

Your own argument shows how you are wrong.

As you said: not a good theory.

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#67779 Feb 8, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>Except that it doesn't. There *are* variants of the DNA to amino acid 'code'. For example, the mitochondria in your cells use a different code. There are also variants in archaebacteria. We have viruses with no DNA, only RNA.

Your own argument shows how you are wrong.

As you said: not a good theory.
I stand correct. DNA and RNA is in all life.

"All living organisms store genetic information using the same molecules — DNA and RNA. Written in the genetic code of these molecules is compelling evidence of the shared ancestry of all living things. Evolution of higher life forms requires the development of new genes to support different body plans and types of nutrition. Even so, complex organisms retain many genes that govern core metabolic functions carried over from their primitive past."

Again I ask if spontaneous life (or what ever you want to call it) started shortly after the earth was formed. Why is it that one speck of life is the mother of all life? Why in the next 4 billion years didn't a different type of life emerge? Something that didn't use DNA and/or RNA?

One creator/designer?

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#67780 Feb 8, 2013
John wrote:
Facts are facts I agree. Homeschoolers score higher on intelligence tests than public school students. Other facts I enjoy- your nothing is illogical. Obama is a proven liar. Climate change is cyclical. Religious give more to charity than nonreligious. Conservatives more than liberals.
Go find the Obama loving progressive gun control cop killer. Your nothing is noted.
Do you fundie con dumbs get points for mentioning Obama's name in every topic? And the more off topic the mention of his name is, the more points you get?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#67781 Feb 8, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
China knows where a lot of stuff is made yet they take it a part and try and learn from it and try to reproduce it.
Just because God made stuff doesn't mean we can't try and learn about it.
And we do that already. But we also try to understand how life was in the past, and how it has changed over time. We look at distant galaxies to understand how the universe at large works. And guess what? The hypothesis of God doesn't help *at all* in understanding anything.

For example, even if you assume that God did it all, we still can look at the evidence and say that the universe was hotter and denser in the past than it is now. We can also say that at one point it was hot and dense enough for nuclear reactions to happen. So, even with the God assumption, the Big Bang still happened.

In regard t life, we still know that there was bacterial life only about 3.8 billion years ago. We also know that there were no mammals 500 million years ago. We still know that species change over time. So, even with the assumption that God did it all, we still know that evolution happened.

We also know that there was no life on Earth before about 4.1 billion years ago because the conditions on the Earth didn't allow it. So sometime before 4.1 and 3.8 billion years ago, we know that life got started. Furthermore, we know what chemicals existed at that point and how those chemicals combine to give more complicated chemicals that are relevant for life. So even if God did it all, we still would study *exactly* the same things we are now about how life began.

The point? The assumption that God did it all leads to no understanding of the processes. It leads to no experimental results. It leads to no theoretical results that are testable. In other words, it is *useless* as a scientific hypothesis. And that is why science can ignore the issue entirely.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#67782 Feb 8, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
I stand correct. DNA and RNA is in all life.
"All living organisms store genetic information using the same molecules — DNA and RNA. Written in the genetic code of these molecules is compelling evidence of the shared ancestry of all living things. Evolution of higher life forms requires the development of new genes to support different body plans and types of nutrition. Even so, complex organisms retain many genes that govern core metabolic functions carried over from their primitive past."
Again I ask if spontaneous life (or what ever you want to call it) started shortly after the earth was formed. Why is it that one speck of life is the mother of all life? Why in the next 4 billion years didn't a different type of life emerge? Something that didn't use DNA and/or RNA?
That's just the way things worked out.
Langoliers wrote:
One creator/designer?
There is no evidence of a creator/designer.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#67783 Feb 8, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
Again I ask if spontaneous life (or what ever you want to call it) started shortly after the earth was formed. Why is it that one speck of life is the mother of all life? Why in the next 4 billion years didn't a different type of life emerge? Something that didn't use DNA and/or RNA?
One creator/designer?
Because the life that existed was using the resources and a different basis for genetics would not have had a chance to get going. Now, if you go back to *very* early life, it is quite possible there were several different lines that merged to make the lines we see today. But that would have been early enough that there could still be 'cross talk' between different lines.

Since: Nov 12

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#67784 Feb 8, 2013
sickofit wrote:
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Leading people to a myth????? Sounds better for you nazi fascist religous freaks..
My health is fantastic. I am a pure athelete and in better shape then most pro atheletes...
I am not a fat bald short dicked inbreed like you far righters.I AM A REAL MAN
Your body may be healthy, but your brain needs a lot of work.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#67785 Feb 8, 2013
BBSting wrote:
<quoted text>
Your body may be healthy, but your brain needs a lot of work.
This is coming from the guy who can't prove a single word of the bible and thinks that the earth is 6000 years old.
John

United States

#67786 Feb 9, 2013
Antitheists have no real way to measure evidence. Using their own standards has gotten them zero evidence. I've asked this many times before. It is ignored by the stumpees.

How does a nothing decide which is most or least likely: something from nothing, always was, prime mover. Show your work loons and make sure it adheres to your limiting paramaters.

Now rather than get bogged down in quibbling over what the standard for evidence is. Which is generous of me considering the hypocrisy of you bigots. I've suggested you make the case for your nothing and I'll make the case for my something. It's your forum and you can't even feign substance. The arguments for a prime mover scare you to death.

That's ok, I enjoy exposing your quackery.

CBO expects 7 million to be displaced from employer insurance due to Obamacare. Add millions of illegals on top of that. Priceless. Tick, tock

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#67787 Feb 9, 2013
John wrote:
Antitheists have no real way to measure evidence. Using their own standards has gotten them zero evidence. I've asked this many times before. It is ignored by the stumpees.
How does a nothing decide which is most or least likely: something from nothing, always was, prime mover. Show your work loons and make sure it adheres to your limiting paramaters.
Now rather than get bogged down in quibbling over what the standard for evidence is. Which is generous of me considering the hypocrisy of you bigots. I've suggested you make the case for your nothing and I'll make the case for my something. It's your forum and you can't even feign substance. The arguments for a prime mover scare you to death.
That's ok, I enjoy exposing your quackery.
CBO expects 7 million to be displaced from employer insurance due to Obamacare. Add millions of illegals on top of that. Priceless. Tick, tock
Sorry, but your bible story is a lie and you are a liar on its behalf.

Either prove your god or f*ck off, its been that simple since the dawn of time itself.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#67788 Feb 9, 2013
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2013/Februar...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9762...

And even when people were being burned at the stake for believing in the 'wrong kind' of Christianity, it STILL never occurred to them to say, "I renounce Catholicism/Protestantism " :-)

Some people still seem to believe 'everything happens for a reason'-(i.e. god swill).
sickofit

Northfield, MN

#67789 Feb 9, 2013
BBSting wrote:
<quoted text>
Your body may be healthy, but your brain needs a lot of work.
My brain is rock solid. I live in a world of fact and truth...Your insane for beleiveing in some god and the buybull.....YOU BELIEVE IN A GOD.......And you say my brain needs help?? LOL LOL HA HA

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#67790 Feb 9, 2013
John wrote:
I notice there are links and claims@ from you loons. Nothing knows why. It's clear you have no accountable position or evidence that meets the criteria you hold others to. You are cowards and bigots.
My something vs your nothing? I don't blame you for not taking the challenge.
MORE answers to Stump-John's question:

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“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#67791 Feb 9, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>to be fair...religions have changed the "word of God" many times to suit their needs and to keep from becoming absolutely irrelevent to society...
And I predict they will change it once more.

As the current crop of "god books" grow more distant and irrelevant?

The current fraction who are more reasonable than the zealot/literalists, will begin to re-write it yet again, so it will be more in line with what they claim they believe.

Such as a preface to Genesis: "The following is poetry and parable. It is not real, nor was anything in it meant to be real."

And stripping out all the god-commanded rape & murders.

I, for one, can't wait to read this new, more modern "word of god".

It ought to be a hoot.:D

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#67792 Feb 9, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>That's just the way things worked out.

Langoliers wrote, "
One creator/designer?
"

There is no evidence of a creator/designer.
I would think that according to how fast you claim life started on this dead rock that at least one more type of life would have started in the next 4 billion years.

With out a creator to make the rules why then does all life have DNA / RNA?

life.
"All living organisms store genetic information using the same molecules DNA and RNA. Written in the genetic code of these molecules is compelling evidence of the shared ancestry of all living things. Evolution of higher life forms requires the development of new genes to support different body plans and types of nutrition. Even so, complex organisms retain many genes that govern core metabolic functions carried over from their primitive past."

Again I ask if spontaneous life (or what ever you want to call it) started shortly after the earth was formed. Why is it that one speck of life is the mother of all life?

Why in the next 4 billion years didn't a different type of life emerge?

Something that didn't use DNA and/or RNA?

Odds are higher for a second type of life if indeed life did self generate.

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#67793 Feb 9, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>Because the life that existed was using the resources and a different basis for genetics would not have had a chance to get going. Now, if you go back to *very* early life, it is quite possible there were several different lines that merged to make the lines we see today. But that would have been early enough that there could still be 'cross talk' between different lines.
You don't know this.

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#67794 Feb 9, 2013
sickofit wrote:
<quoted text>My brain is rock solid. I live in a world of fact and truth...Your insane for beleiveing in some god and the buybull.....YOU BELIEVE IN A GOD.......And you say my brain needs help?? LOL LOL HA HA
" I live in a world of fact and truth"

What colour are the sky's in your world?

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