Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70634 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#67606 Feb 5, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
<quoted text>Isn't it amazing how well a pothole is designed to exactly fit the water inside of it after a rain?

You entire argument is a long-winded version of a puddle of water claiming the hole it's in was intelligently designed.
Nice try but not at all the same.

Why if the universe had a little less mass to start with then it would need a whole new set of laws. Your pot hole would not be full of water no big deal.
No Fission is a big deal.
Thinking

Uckfield, UK

#67607 Feb 5, 2013
Why tell everyone you've got a secret?
Givemeliberty wrote:
Did you catch that secret knowledge guy talking about how we are made of god-stuff? Lol!
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Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#67608 Feb 5, 2013
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>What is your issue with mormons?
Note: reference "Star Trek IV"

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#67609 Feb 5, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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You really think that supports randomness?
Did I say that? No, it supports the laws of physics.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#67610 Feb 5, 2013
He thinks the ravings of a lunatic is secret.
Thinking wrote:
Why tell everyone you've got a secret?
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Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#67611 Feb 5, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>Did I say that? No, it supports the laws of physics.
You said
"How does this support a creation? if anything, it supports exactly the opposite."

The opposite of creation (intelligent design) I would think would be randomness.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#67612 Feb 5, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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"The best evidence for design can be seen in the nature of the universe and how it came to be....
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/is_g...
You have no idea what any of that means, do you?
What they are really doing is like saying there must have been some plot involved with Lou Gehrig's death, because what are the odds he would have caught Lou Gehrig's disease otherwise?

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#67613 Feb 5, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Part 3
"So, although it would be possible that one or two constants might require unusual fine-tuning by chance, it would be virtually impossible that all of them would require such fine-tuning. Some physicists have indicated that any of a number of different physical laws would be compatible with our present universe. However, it is not just the current state of the universe that must be compatible with the physical laws. Even more stringent are the initial conditions of the universe, since even minor deviations would have completely disrupted the process. For example, adding a grain of sand to the weight of the universe now would have no effect. However, adding even this small amount of weight at the beginning of the universe would have resulted in its collapse early in its history.
What do cosmologists say?
Even though many atheists would like to dismiss such evidence of design, cosmologists know better, and have made statements such as the following, which reveal the depth of the problem for the atheistic worldview:
"This type of universe, however, seems to require a degree of fine-tuning of the initial conditions that is in apparent conflict with 'common wisdom'."
"Polarization is predicted. It's been detected and it's in line with theoretical predictions. We're stuck with this preposterous universe."
"In all of these worlds statistically miraculous (but not impossible) events would be necessary to assemble and preserve the fragile nuclei that would ordinarily be destroyed by the higher temperatures. However, although each of the corresponding histories is extremely unlikely, there are so many more of them than those that evolve without "miracles," that they would vastly dominate the livable universes that would be created by Poincare recurrences. We are forced to conclude that in a recurrent world like de Sitter space our universe would be extraordinarily unlikely"
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/is_g...
People often find "design" where there is none. Think of the constellations, they are actually just random pasterns of stars.
Thinking

Uckfield, UK

#67614 Feb 6, 2013
Note: you misquoted, backfilling BSer.
Langoliers wrote:
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Note: reference "Star Trek IV"

Since: Jun 07

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#67615 Feb 6, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Nice try but not at all the same.
Why if the universe had a little less mass to start with then it would need a whole new set of laws. Your pot hole would not be full of water no big deal.
No Fission is a big deal.
You don't really care about the answer to this question - you're already decided what you think it is.

If you were genuinely curious about how the universe was formed. you would have already gone on your own journey of inquiry.

The fact is you don't have any genuine criticism of astrophysics (because you don't actually understand it), just little hints of misunderstandings here and there which you think count for a lot, when in fact they count for nothing.

I mean you think the earth is 6000 years old for f*cks sake. This eliminates you from any serious discussion about science or the universe automatically.

Since: Feb 12

Taiwan

#67616 Feb 6, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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You don't really care about the answer to this question - you're already decided what you think it is.
If you were genuinely curious about how the universe was formed. you would have already gone on your own journey of inquiry.
The fact is you don't have any genuine criticism of astrophysics (because you don't actually understand it), just little hints of misunderstandings here and there which you think count for a lot, when in fact they count for nothing.
I mean you think the earth is 6000 years old for f*cks sake. This eliminates you from any serious discussion about science or the universe automatically.
Not to mention that if any of these morons took 1 Earth Science class, that much of the Earth's formations have taken millions to 10s of millions of years.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#67617 Feb 6, 2013
Judge not lest ye be judged. Atheists are into judgement big time, but when they come under judgement they unravel like a cheap sweater.

Since: Feb 12

Taiwan

#67618 Feb 6, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Says the creationist that believes jesus rode on the backs of dinosaurs.
Those dinosaurs would of eaten Jesus and still be starving.

Seriously, the whole idea of man walking with dinosaurs is a joke. With how much we know about dinosaurs through fossils and science, humanity would of gone extinct because the dinosaurs would of eaten us all.
Thinking

Uckfield, UK

#67619 Feb 6, 2013
That's very judgmental of you.
BBSting wrote:
Judge not lest ye be judged. Atheists are into judgement big time, but when they come under judgement they unravel like a cheap sweater.
Thinking

Uckfield, UK

#67620 Feb 6, 2013
I disagree. We'd have killed the biggest dinosaurs off in a few generations.
StarsplashTaiwan wrote:
<quoted text>
Those dinosaurs would of eaten Jesus and still be starving.
Seriously, the whole idea of man walking with dinosaurs is a joke. With how much we know about dinosaurs through fossils and science, humanity would of gone extinct because the dinosaurs would of eaten us all.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#67621 Feb 6, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice try but not at all the same.
Why if the universe had a little less mass to start with then it would need a whole new set of laws. Your pot hole would not be full of water no big deal.
No Fission is a big deal.
And we wouldn't be here to have this conversation.

I guess the pothole analogy was over your head.

The universe just is. Life evolved to fit what's here, not the other way around.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#67622 Feb 6, 2013
That's what I was thinking. Nobody will ever mistake that one for a mental giant though.
Thinking wrote:
That's very judgmental of you.
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John

United States

#67623 Feb 6, 2013
No matter how much evidence and likelihood there is of something larger than us designing the universe you loons will cling to your illogical nothing. Mocking the evidence based position is simply beyond the pale.

Your nothing reeks of bigotry and nonsense.
John

United States

#67624 Feb 6, 2013
Another day of ineptitude from the antitheists.*Note to lurkers* They have gone almost three years without giving one accountable position they are willing to debate. Three years without an example of evidence that meets their criteria for evidence. These are angry agenda driven folks that don't give a damn about the evidence.
If you want to subject yourself to this farce by all means see for yourself. Antitheists you could also just cut and paste one of the 64,890 posts to show otherwise.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. True
science that is repeatable and observable.
Thinking

Uckfield, UK

#67625 Feb 6, 2013
Bollocks.
John wrote:
No matter how much evidence and likelihood there is of something larger than us designing the universe you loons will cling to your illogical nothing. Mocking the evidence based position is simply beyond the pale.
Your nothing reeks of bigotry and nonsense.

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