Atheists on the march in America

There are 70657 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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John

United States

#67563 Feb 3, 2013
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 64,830 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#67564 Feb 3, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>Well, duh. There is no limit to the number of names we can come up with. People could give every fossil ever found its own, individual name. BTW, what clouds "look like" is purely subjective.

Langoliers wrote, "
If evolution's continuous morphing were really going on, every fossil would show change underway throughout the creature, with parts in various stages of completion. For every successful change there should be many more that lead to nothing. The whole process is random trial and error, without direction. So every plant and animal, living or fossil, should be covered inside and out with useless growths and have parts under construction. It is a grotesque image, and just what the theory of evolution really predicts."

Have you considered taking a biology class?

Langoliers wrote, "
Even Charles Darwin had a glimpse of the problem in his day. He wrote in his book On the Origin of Species: "The number of intermediate varieties which have formerly existed on Earth must be truly enormous. Why then is not every geological formation and every stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely graduated organic chain; and this, perhaps, is the most obvious and gravest objection which can be urged against my theory." The more fossils that are found, the better sense we have of what lived in the past. Since Darwin's day, the number of fossils that have been collected has grown tremendously, so we now have a pretty accurate picture. The gradual morphing of one type of creature to another that evolution predicts is nowhere to be found. There should have been millions of transitional creatures if evolution were true. In the "tree of life" that evolutionists have dreamed up, gaps in the fossil record are especially huge between single-cell creatures, complex invertebrates (such as snails, jellyfish, trilobites, clams, and sponges), and what evolutionists claim were the first vertebrates, fish. In fact, there are no fossil ancestors at all for complex invertebrates or fish. That alone is fatal to the theory of evolution. The fossil record shows that evolution never happened."
http://www.newgeology.us/presentation32.html&... ;

LOL. What BS. A group of people who don't believe in plate tectonics.
It would make sense that there would be gaps in the fossil records. Surely, only a small percentage of dead plants and animals fossilize, and we've only found a small percentage of those fossils. But even in what has been found, there is evidence of evolution.
Do you really believe your own BS?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#67565 Feb 3, 2013
The Hellenistic religions were closer. They claimed all life came out of the oceans by the guidance of Poseidon. At least he created a whole city of people not only two.
Thinking

Saffron Walden, UK

#67566 Feb 4, 2013
I believe you're a brown bumble trout.
John wrote:
Ask them what they believe.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#67567 Feb 4, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you really believe your own BS?
Says the creationist that believes jesus rode on the backs of dinosaurs.
John

United States

#67568 Feb 4, 2013
Must be tough marching for nothing. Population Stumpville is dwindling.
Thinking

Saffron Walden, UK

#67569 Feb 4, 2013
Correct, christian congregations are dwindling.

They still attract clowns, though.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-21286342
John wrote:
Must be tough marching for nothing. Population Stumpville is dwindling.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#67570 Feb 4, 2013
Yes and the is a good indicator as to why they are coming after us. Their ways are dying and we are the cancer known as reason :)
Thinking wrote:
Correct, christian congregations are dwindling.
They still attract clowns, though.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-21286342
<quoted text>

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#67571 Feb 4, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
Here is my accountable position.
1. If god exists, there is evidence of his existence.
2. There is no evidence of his existence.
3. There is no god.

Anybody willing to debate?
:::crickets chirping:::
You are of the authority to lay down rules that God must follow?

Debate? What this crap? LOL

How Daftly!
John

United States

#67572 Feb 4, 2013
Of course this has no evidentiary relevance. My goodness you bigots are hateful. You don't give a damn about evidence.

Nothing again from the illogical, irrational, marchers for nothing.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#67573 Feb 4, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>Says the creationist that believes jesus rode on the backs of dinosaurs.
So you believe a donkey is a dinosaur?

What a Dolt!
Thinking

Saffron Walden, UK

#67574 Feb 4, 2013
OK, you believe a donkey rode a dinosaur. So what?
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
So you believe a donkey is a dinosaur?
What a Dolt!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#67575 Feb 4, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
So you believe a donkey is a dinosaur?
What a Dolt!
If dinosaurs didn't exist in your 6,000 years, then why do we have the fossils?
John

United States

#67576 Feb 4, 2013
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 64,840 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#67577 Feb 4, 2013
John wrote:
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence ....
It's not a presupposition so long as you continue to present none, it is fact.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#67578 Feb 4, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>If dinosaurs didn't exist in your 6,000 years, then why do we have the fossils?
LOL

It's always a good time reading you comments. Thanks.
Thinking

Saffron Walden, UK

#67579 Feb 4, 2013
You posted this same sh!t before, back when your ISP appeared to be in Florissant, MO
John wrote:
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 64,840 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#67580 Feb 4, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
You are of the authority to lay down rules that God must follow?
Debate? What this crap? LOL
How Daftly!
IOW, you can't counter my argument.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#67581 Feb 4, 2013
John wrote:
Of course this has no evidentiary relevance. My goodness you bigots are hateful. You don't give a damn about evidence.
Nothing again from the illogical, irrational, marchers for nothing.
Provide some evidence of god's existence, and we'll get started.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#67582 Feb 4, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
So he was basically using the argument from authority logical fallacy.
<quoted text>
Yes, but I doubt he's aware if it. To have awareness of such, one needs to be sentient.

He does not qualify.

:D

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