Atheists on the march in America

[Thinking]

I know, we have so much to be thankful for.

We also get Dec 26th off work as well as the two easter days.

Lincoln wrote:

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UK belief in God much lower than in the US

[John]

Well, you loons did not disappoint. You, once again did not provide one accountable position of belief you were willing to debate. You failed to produce one iota of evidence that meets your requirements. You have nothing but ridiculous assertions even questioning Jesus as a historical figure. Your bigotry has diseased your brains. I will stay on point as always. Your fishing expeditions are merely ways to steer the narrative from your nothing. I asked a simple question. When you cowards are ready we can debate all your ridiculous ideas.

I think I caught an attempt at machismo in one of your posts liberty. I don't really read them all, but I do skim looking for an accountable position that is never there. Thanks for the chuckle though. Liberal atheists are such cowards.

[Lincoln]

John wrote:

Well, you loons did not disappoint. You, once again did not provide one accountable position of belief you were willing to debate. You failed to produce one iota of evidence that meets your requirements. You have nothing but ridiculous assertions even questioning Jesus as a historical figure. Your bigotry has diseased your brains. I will stay on point as always. Your fishing expeditions are merely ways to steer the narrative from your nothing. I asked a simple question. When you cowards are ready we can debate all your ridiculous ideas.
I think I caught an attempt at machismo in one of your posts liberty. I don't really read them all, but I do skim looking for an accountable position that is never there. Thanks for the chuckle though. Liberal atheists are such cowards.

You tend to use "I" a great deal.

"I think I caught..."

"I do skim..."

"I asked a..... "

You seem a bit self important?
Atheists may be bored with you?

[Lincoln]

Thinking wrote:

I know, we have so much to be thankful for.
We also get Dec 26th off work as well as the two easter days.
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Your taxes support Lords and Ladies, Dukes and other titled nonentities.

Established Church?

UK provides PBS with excellent programs

[John]

Lincoln wrote:

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You tend to use "I" a great deal.
"I think I caught..."
"I do skim..."
"I asked a..... "
You seem a bit self important?
Atheists may be bored with you?

No, they are just stumped bigots. I notice you have nothing as well.

[John]

You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 64,200 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

[-Skeptic-]

John wrote:

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No, they are just stumped bigots. I notice you have nothing as well.

I bet your next post also doesn't contain any proof of god.

[Lincoln]

John wrote:

You make the ..........Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would!

Nonsense

[John]

The above is the same nothing vomited out since page one. This is an atheism forum. Do you bigots have any evidence or accountable position? Of course you don't. Why are you bringing up a God you don't believe in Septic? Nothing of your own huh?

[John]

Lincoln wrote:

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Nonsense

Strong evidence of your nothing! Over and over and over and over.....

[Lincoln]

John wrote:

.... This is an atheism forum.....

This is a free country, Not an atheist forum.

More than 9 in 10 Americans still say "YES" when asked the basic question "Do you believe in God?"; this is down only slightly from the 1940s, when Gallup first asked this question.

[Rose_NoHo]

Lincoln wrote:

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You tend to use "I" a great deal.
"I think I caught..."
"I do skim..."
"I asked a..... "
You seem a bit self important?
Atheists may be bored with you?

I've tried to get John to debate, but he won't. He just posts the same 3 or 4 posts again and again.

[KittenKoder]

Givemeliberty wrote:

What if we made Ozzy the Pope?:)
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Pft, he already sold out.:P

[Lincoln]

Rose_NoHo wrote:

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I've tried to get John to debate, but he won't. He just posts the same 3 or 4 posts again and again.

seems fun here if no too serious.

Downton Abbey tomorrow evening, enjoyable English gift to American television

[emperorjohn]

Lincoln wrote:

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Greater the claim
the greater the evidence nede.
Do you feel the US will ever become a secular nation?

Yes, I believe so.

[emperorjohn]

Hedonist wrote:

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It was a secular nation. The Christian right in this country would like to make it a theocratic oligarchy.
Some other modern secular nations would include Sweden, Denmark, Japan, etc. Modern secular nations routinely score better on livability indicators such as low felony rates, low teenage pregnancy, high math & sciences graduates, etc. The U.S. isn't one of these.

Usually the more secular a society, the more better it is. That is because humans learn how to understand, approach, and deal with human nature in a rational way, rather then through the ideas of cavemen and skydaddies.

[Givemeliberty]

His ways are not our own.

Thinking wrote:

Not a role model though. Sharon used to come into our local florists with very large sunglasses to cover her bruises.:(
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[Givemeliberty]

Your numbers are incorrect in your bandwagon fallacy argument. Over 30% of Americans age 18-30 claim to believe in a god.

Lincoln wrote:

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This is a free country, Not an atheist forum.
More than 9 in 10 Americans still say "YES" when asked the basic question "Do you believe in God?"; this is down only slightly from the 1940s, when Gallup first asked this question.

[Lincoln]

emperorjohn wrote:

<quoted text> Usually the more secular a society, the more better it is. That is because humans learn how to understand, approach, and deal with human nature in a rational way, rather then through the ideas of cavemen and skydaddies.

"the more better it is" :-)

seems a generalization

[John]

Rose_NoHo wrote:

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I've tried to get John to debate, but he won't. He just posts the same 3 or 4 posts again and again.

Except you haven't Rose. Provide any accountable position of belief that meets the evidentiary standards you hold others to. You, seriously don't expect me to debate nothing or whichever ridiculous assertion of the day you throw out?

Get your nothing out of here!