Atheists on the march in America

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When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Lincoln

United States

#66726 Jan 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Ah yes, the appeal to popularity. You do realize that historically, the majority has been wrong more often than correct, right? I mean, this little fact can't have escaped your lack of logic.
Agree!
Seems a popular belief that morality and truth are best decided by the Gallup Poll.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#66727 Jan 6, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Agree!
Seems a popular belief that morality and truth are best decided by the Gallup Poll.
It's a fallacy often employed by the desperate. Popularity has little to no actual impact on the validity of anything, but due to historical trends it is wise not to base anything on popularity until the trends shift to the majority choosing more wisely more often.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#66728 Jan 6, 2013
So anyways believers tell me.

Why should anyone believe that god is anything more than the product of someone's imagination?

Another day and another show of ineptitude by the theists. They are terrified of this question and have nothing.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#66729 Jan 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Even some of the greats had delusions.
KitttenKoder

You are right....I should just let it go....Intellectual curiosity still kills the cat.

Since: Nov 12

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#66730 Jan 6, 2013
Wrathbone wrote:
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I got through a couple of the videos. I think Penn and Teller have more fun duping the viewer with their sensationalized crackpot psychotic twists.
I never did like these guys. Something sleazy about them. Teller can talk yet he acts like Penn's wooden mannikin when preforming. Why not use a real ventriloquist's dummy? Creepy.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#66731 Jan 6, 2013
postscriptt wrote:
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Science, like religion, is fair game. The only prerequisite necessary is doubt. And while I'm on the subject - you atheists have a loooooog march ahead of you.
A recent Gallop poll (June-2012) found that "forty-six percent of Americans believe in the creationist view that God created humans in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years. The prevalence of this creationist view of the origin of humans is essentially unchanged from 30 years ago, when Gallup first asked the question. About a third of Americans believe that humans evolved, but with God's guidance; 15% say humans evolved, but that God had no part in the process."
"More broadly, some 78% of Americans today believe that God had a hand in the development of humans in some way, just slightly less than the percentage who felt this way 30 years ago."
http://www.gallup.com/poll/155003/Hold-Creati...
So much for the credulity of science's version of creation, eh? In order to swallow science's schtick about origins completely - that the universe happened by accident - that something comes from nothing - that dead matter gives rise to life - you have to have a postgraduate degree. LOL!
"Americans with postgraduate education are most likely of all the educational groups to say humans evolved without God's guidance, and least likely to say God created humans in their present form within the last 10,000 years."
Hilarious! Just goes to show that the common man has more common sense than the educated.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#66732 Jan 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Ah yes, the appeal to popularity. You do realize that historically, the majority has been wrong more often than correct, right? I mean, this little fact can't have escaped your lack of logic.
Don't feel bad. A lot of people with college degrees don't have smarts.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#66733 Jan 6, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
So anyways believers tell me.
Why should anyone believe that god is anything more than the product of someone's imagination?
Another day and another show of ineptitude by the theists. They are terrified of this question and have nothing.
Do that trick again. The one where you pull your lip over your head and swallow yourself.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#66734 Jan 6, 2013
BBSting wrote:
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Don't feel bad. A lot of people with college degrees don't have smarts.
I completely agree.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#66735 Jan 6, 2013
BBSting wrote:
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I never did like these guys. Something sleazy about them. Teller can talk yet he acts like Penn's wooden mannikin when preforming. Why not use a real ventriloquist's dummy? Creepy.
Erm, so you don't ever actually watch them. You should just admit to not actually watching them instead of attempting ad homs.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#66736 Jan 6, 2013
BBSting wrote:
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Hilarious! Just goes to show that the common man has more common sense than the educated.
No, just that they are more gullible and easily led.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#66737 Jan 6, 2013
postscriptt wrote:
Tis coincidence, and nothing more - or so science says. If you know whose on the phone before you answer it -
And what about all of the times you don't? Or think you do, and are wrong?
postscriptt wrote:
if you experience a DeJa-Vu - if you follow an impuilse that proves beneficial - if you experience a premonition about someone that comes true - if something tells you not to board a plane that later crashes - rack it all up as coicidence.
Think of the millions of events like this that occur daily all over the world, and then think of all those brainwashed scientific schlubs who chose to ignore this widespread evidence of human extrasensory experience - experiences that shouldn't
happen at all according to them.
How many people are likely to call a typical person?
And my guess is that people tend to remember the times they were right about who is calling, and forget the times they were wrong.
Think about this, one time I was driving with a friend, mentioned a celebrity, looked at the car next to us, and he was in the car. Wow, huh? But think of all the times I mention a celeb, and they aren't in the car next to me.
postscriptt wrote:
Each precognition no matter how small is self-evident proof that the world has a meaning never found by Darwinian or Freudian thought - that the self has access to an inner system of communication and perception demonstated in the evidence of experience.
People have a tendency to, what I call, "constellationalize" , impose meaning/patterns onto randomness.(Like making constellations and stories out of the random spread of stars in the sky.)
Doing that probably has a survival advantage, and no real survival disadvantage. People who thought a random pattern of leaves was a lion lived to produce more offspring than those who though a lion was a random pattern of leaves.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#66738 Jan 6, 2013
Another theist who is unable to answer the question. Get your nothing out of here! Wow that really has them stumped!

Why should anyone accept god as anything more than the product of someone's imagination?
BBSting wrote:
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Do that trick again. The one where you pull your dick out of your pants and pitot into my mouth.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#66739 Jan 6, 2013
It's that the best you can do? Steal excerpts from comments not your own and reword others? You're just taking up space on this forun. Why don't you do the world a favor and crawl back into that hemorroid you came from?

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#66740 Jan 6, 2013
Hmm let's see. Lame dodge attempt with an even lamer ad hom. I mean you are so upset and trembling that post wasn't even in English. I think ou meant to bray is that the best you can do? And the errors just keep coming after that.

Another day of ineptitude and still the theists are unable to answer my question, why should anyone accept god as anything more than a product of someone's vivid imagination?

Let the nothing continue from the theists who can't even differentiate the difference between god and their imagination!
BBSting wrote:
It's that the best you can do? Steal excerpts from comments not your own and reword others? You're just taking up space on this forun. Why don't you do the world a favor and crawl back into that hemorroid you came from?
postscriptt

Albuquerque, NM

#66741 Jan 7, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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And what about all of the times you don't? Or think you do, and are wrong?
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How many people are likely to call a typical person?
And my guess is that people tend to remember the times they were right about who is calling, and forget the times they were wrong.
Think about this, one time I was driving with a friend, mentioned a celebrity, looked at the car next to us, and he was in the car. Wow, huh? But think of all the times I mention a celeb, and they aren't in the car next to me.
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People have a tendency to, what I call, "constellationalize" , impose meaning/patterns onto randomness.(Like making constellations and stories out of the random spread of stars in the sky.)
Doing that probably has a survival advantage, and no real survival disadvantage. People who thought a random pattern of leaves was a lion lived to produce more offspring than those who though a lion was a random pattern of leaves.
I would agree with you but then we'd both be wrong. You're not challenging the validity of extrasensory perception by attempting to diminish the significance of these events. You are creating obstacles for yourself - webs of assumptions that will prevent you from opening the inner door that leads to the evidence you seek. Don't look to science for assistance. Since it refuses to consider the question of awareized consciousness in any of its calculations, it can't even begin to validate extrasensory experiences. Fortunately, the beauty of self-evident subjective experience is that its meaning is not dependent on the corroboration of science.

Intellectual freedom requires the presence of alternative thoughts. The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity, but the one that "removes" the awareness of other possibilities. Think about it.
postscriptt

Albuquerque, NM

#66742 Jan 7, 2013
Science attempts to create its own breed of humankind - one that fits its version of reality. A breed whose members must ignore their own psychological encounters with life. A breed that cannot trust direct personal experience but can only be comfortable with subjective events when they can be interpreted through the intermediaries of instruments, gadgets and objective measuring devices.

Paradoxically, scientists are quick to expose psychic chalatanism where it exists, yet they are blind to their own scientific nonsense!
postscriptt

Albuquerque, NM

#66743 Jan 7, 2013
BBSting wrote:
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Hilarious! Just goes to show that the common man has more common sense than the educated.
(fist bump)
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#66744 Jan 7, 2013
Sources?
postscriptt wrote:
Science attempts to create its own breed of humankind - one that fits its version of reality. A breed whose members must ignore their own psychological encounters with life. A breed that cannot trust direct personal experience but can only be comfortable with subjective events when they can be interpreted through the intermediaries of instruments, gadgets and objective measuring devices.
Paradoxically, scientists are quick to expose psychic chalatanism where it exists, yet they are blind to their own scientific nonsense!
postscriptt

Albuquerque, NM

#66745 Jan 7, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Sources?
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My direct personal experience.

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