Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70645 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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John

United States

#67012 Jan 14, 2013
There is no evidence in this arena that meets their standards. I asked a simple question three years ago and adamantly refuse to debate nothing. Of course, the attacks ensued and I merely glance for substance and disregard or cut and paste previous posts now.

The problems are myriad, but a radical leftist (puppet or not) flooring the car towards a cliff is certainly worth the masses trying to find the brakes.

Your post is not devoid of truth. Let us first establish man is fallible as well as its institutions. As we have progressed technologically, we have gotten further and further from the founders principles. Perhaps you see this as connected. Perhaps tangentially. I'll certainly acknowledge technology has changed commerce, global affairs, values? The values follow the same parallel, but there was also a trend in whether man is God or God is God.

It is difficult to make the case that our Republic doesn't work when put in practice. It is imo the best example of a free society presenting more opportunity to more people. The world would look quite different without Americas greatness (warts and all), and millions have led free lives as a result.

What do you think is a better solution if I may ask? Certainly not this road we travel! Let it burn? Any assorted ism....let's call it statism. One world government? Nothing has worked as well and on such a scale.

Check out the congressional hearings on Communism from the sixties. It has been implemented. I may decide to post them one by one when the nothings suggest tinfoil LOL. It's hurtful guys. I can only hold this brave front facade up another forty years or so.

First, we get rid of this scourge and then???? Or does he stay?

Welcome to the forum about nothing BTW.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#67013 Jan 14, 2013
I see John is still unable to answer why we should believe in his imaginary friend named god! Get your nothing and your cowardice out of here!

Stump a theist, ask them why anyone should believe!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!

Since: Mar 11

United States

#67014 Jan 14, 2013
You are assuming god is a creator and is outside of creation. That is a logical fallacy known as special pleading.
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello Rose
Point 1 "If god exists, there is evidence of his existence."
I disagree. It would be more correctly written, "If God exists, then is there evidence of God's existence?", or you could say, "Is there evidence of God's existence?", or you could say, "Does evidence exist that proves that God exists?".
You are assuming in your statement that God exists because there is evidence. And you make a conclusion with Point 2 based on an assumption. That assumption would be incorrect if God exists outside of Creation, and therefore outside of certain types of evidence.
To answer this one must consider what constitutes evidence, in what framework are we applying that evidence, and thirdly, can God(being Creator, and thus outside of Creation(by definition)) be evidenced within Creation?
If you agree, then we can go on.
If you disagree, then we can discuss this point further.
If you would rather not discuss the point. This ends now.
If we go on, then we have to agree what consitutes evidence, and the framework in which it is presented.
Lincoln

United States

#67015 Jan 15, 2013
where are atheists marching to today?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#67016 Jan 15, 2013
John wrote:
There is no evidence in this arena that meets their standards. I asked a simple question three years ago and adamantly refuse to debate nothing. Of course, the attacks ensued and I merely glance for substance and disregard or cut and paste previous posts now.
The problems are myriad, but a radical leftist (puppet or not) flooring the car towards a cliff is certainly worth the masses trying to find the brakes.
Your post is not devoid of truth. Let us first establish man is fallible as well as its institutions. As we have progressed technologically, we have gotten further and further from the founders principles. Perhaps you see this as connected. Perhaps tangentially. I'll certainly acknowledge technology has changed commerce, global affairs, values? The values follow the same parallel, but there was also a trend in whether man is God or God is God.
It is difficult to make the case that our Republic doesn't work when put in practice. It is imo the best example of a free society presenting more opportunity to more people. The world would look quite different without Americas greatness (warts and all), and millions have led free lives as a result.
What do you think is a better solution if I may ask? Certainly not this road we travel! Let it burn? Any assorted ism....let's call it statism. One world government? Nothing has worked as well and on such a scale.
Check out the congressional hearings on Communism from the sixties. It has been implemented. I may decide to post them one by one when the nothings suggest tinfoil LOL. It's hurtful guys. I can only hold this brave front facade up another forty years or so.
First, we get rid of this scourge and then???? Or does he stay?
Welcome to the forum about nothing BTW.
Oh look, another post with no proof of god in it. I bet the next one also has no proof of god in it too.

How long will theists continue to lie to intelligent people for?

Atheists converted : 0
Lincoln

United States

#67017 Jan 15, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh look, another post with no proof of god in it. I bet the next one also has no proof of god in it too.
How long will theists continue to lie to intelligent people for?
Atheists converted : 0
Mortals can not prove God exists.

The United States the 44th President who believes in God.
Will President Obama add "so help me God" to the oath?

Stayed Tuned

Atheists at 6 or 7 percent,.... a bit of noise at Christmas and Easter.
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#67018 Jan 15, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
The regeneration of a severed finger due to prayer.
How about someone rising from the dead? That's even harder.
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#67019 Jan 15, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Any of the anthropomorphic gods, they'd need actual photographs and no excuses of "it can't be seen by human eyes," just a photograph, video evidence would be better though, more reliable.
Any of the other types depend on the type.
What about the evidence before the camera was invented?
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#67020 Jan 15, 2013
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
How about someone rising from the dead? That's even harder.
Quite commonplace according to Matthew 27:52 the tombs were opened and the saints (zombies) roamed the streets of Jerusalem. Proof of the insanity of the gospels. The other three gospelers left this ridiculous tale out.
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#67021 Jan 15, 2013
Adam wrote:
<quoted text>
Quite commonplace according to Matthew 27:52 the tombs were opened and the saints (zombies) roamed the streets of Jerusalem. Proof of the insanity of the gospels. The other three gospelers left this ridiculous tale out.
Lets stay focused on the resurrection of Christ since that is one of the best attested accounts in the ancient world. It has excellent eyewitness accounts for it.

Is it impossible for God to raise the dead or are you going to demonstrate such a thing is impossible?
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#67022 Jan 15, 2013
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
Lets stay focused on the resurrection of Christ since that is one of the best attested accounts in the ancient world.
Acts 1:9 "Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight."

So lets get this straight, 1) a dead man raises from the dead, and 2) ascends to heaven on a cloud? Sounds made up to me.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#67023 Jan 15, 2013
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
Is it impossible for God to raise the dead or are you going to demonstrate such a thing is impossible?
Reconstructing DNA for a superduper being would be possible, but reconstructing memories? could be a problem.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#67024 Jan 15, 2013
And a popular myth at that time all the Greek gods did the same pretty much. The Christholes merely stole their popular myth and made it their own.
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
How about someone rising from the dead? That's even harder.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#67025 Jan 15, 2013
Name these eye witness accounts give the names of the actual people and show proof that they themselves wrote it. What's that? Oh right you can't.

Your mythical god can do anything in his book of myths that's what fiction does.
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
Lets stay focused on the resurrection of Christ since that is one of the best attested accounts in the ancient world. It has excellent eyewitness accounts for it.
Is it impossible for God to raise the dead or are you going to demonstrate such a thing is impossible?
Lincoln

United States

#67026 Jan 15, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
And a popular myth at that time all the Greek gods did the same pretty much. The Christholes merely stole their popular myth and made it their own.
<quoted text>
Christians seem popular, atheists not so much.

Myth of atheism as a growing religion, 18% claim seems a joke.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#67027 Jan 15, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Mortals can not prove God exists.
The United States the 44th President who believes in God.
Will President Obama add "so help me God" to the oath?
Stayed Tuned
Atheists at 6 or 7 percent,.... a bit of noise at Christmas and Easter.
If a specific deity exists, matching the claims of people, it would have evidence suggesting it's interference. Se wee none so far, for the thousands of gods proposed we see no evidence any of them exists.

The majority is more often wrong, than correct, and makes more mistakes than the minority through all of history. Appealing to it is like appealing to the lowest common denominator.

Most atheists don't give two cents for the holidays, and many celebrate them as well because they are both secular holidays, technically.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#67028 Jan 15, 2013
Yes, it is a myth that Atheism is a religion.

It would be easier for you to just say Atheism is not a religion.
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Christians seem popular, atheists not so much.
Myth of atheism as a growing religion, 18% claim seems a joke.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#67029 Jan 15, 2013
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
What about the evidence before the camera was invented?
That would have worked, if not for the ambiguity of the gods proposed. Since the definition and description of these gods keep changing, it can't be validated, and since all writings about these gods have proven far less than accurate they cannot be trusted.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#67030 Jan 15, 2013
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
Lets stay focused on the resurrection of Christ since that is one of the best attested accounts in the ancient world. It has excellent eyewitness accounts for it.
Is it impossible for God to raise the dead or are you going to demonstrate such a thing is impossible?
No, you have a few people who said a bunch of people said they saw it. It's called hearsay. Hercules has way more accounts, more writings, and more references. We have Imhotep's actual body, his tomb, and his own writings as well as many accounts from various people across the globe about his great healing skills, he was a doctor and the earliest scientist we know of.

Shiva is used in literature more than almost any of the gods, followed closely by Cthulhu and Nyarlethotep. Zeus if on the top of that list, we have more evidence of Zeus, based on your standards, than even gravity.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#67031 Jan 15, 2013
Robert F wrote:
Point 1 "If god exists, there is evidence of his existence."
I disagree. It would be more correctly written, "If God exists, then is there evidence of God's existence?", or you could say, "Is there evidence of God's existence?", or you could say, "Does evidence exist that proves that God exists?".
The point that Rose makes is that, if any specific thing exists, then there must be evidence of the existence of that specific thing.

It's a reasonable assumption that existing things leave behind evidence of their existence.(If they do not, then on what logical basis could we possibly conclude that they exist?)

Would you agree?

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