Atheists on the march in America

Aug 26, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: TurkishPress.com

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Or you don't perceive it.
Anthropomorphic patterns in randomness is not evidence.

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Until you notice that there is no evidence for the existence of a "god".
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Or you don't perceive it.
If I don't perceive it, then why would I have any reason to believe that there is evidence?
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No, scientific claims are backed by evidence. Ignoring the evidence doesn't make it go away, that only works for gods.
Scientific evidence can be altered when Federal Grant Money is Near? Point !
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Anthropomorphic patterns in randomness is not evidence.
Explain.

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Scientific evidence can be altered when Federal Grant Money is Near? Point !
Nope, if that was the case then why do scientists out the frauds so willingly? Even before being asked they will publish reports of the frauds. If what you said was true, they would never want people know of the frauds simply out of fear of being outed themselves.
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No, scientific claims are backed by evidence. Ignoring the evidence doesn't make it go away, that only works for gods.
Really? What evidence does science have that supports the notion that something comes from nothing?
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Until you notice that there is no evidence for the existence of a "god".
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If I don't perceive it, then why would I have any reason to believe that there is evidence?
You wouldn't of course, but others who do perceive that evidence would have reason to believe a god exists.

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There is no topic. The forum is about nothing and completely reliant on others to have a voice. Most of you loons voted for this trainwreck so I don't have a problem reminding you of your idiocy on that front either.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.
The topic is:
"Atheists on the march in America".

Now, let's debate.
1. If god exists, there is evidence of his existence.
2. There is no evidence of his existence.
3. God does not exist.

Stump John! Ask him to debate.
Well, maybe one day his balls will drop, and he'll debate.
"Why do people say grow some balls? Balls are weak and sensitive. If you wanna be tough, grow a vagina. Those things can take a pounding." - Betty White
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Stop trying to change the subject. Why should anyone accept god as anything more than the product of someone's vivid imagination?
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Do you accept the idea that the big bang was a random ocurrence?
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Nope, if that was the case then why do scientists out the frauds so willingly? Even before being asked they will publish reports of the frauds. If what you said was true, they would never want people know of the frauds simply out of fear of being outed themselves.
Yes, agree!, a good point !

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You wouldn't of course, but others who do perceive that evidence would have reason to believe a god exists.
If the evidence was not objective, then exactly how would they go about ruling out the idea that they had imagined the evidence?

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Now you're just stalling pussyassbitch. Your question is completely irrelevant in relation to mine. So again coward, why should anyone accept god as anything more than the product of someone's vivid imagination?
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Do you accept the idea that the big bang was a random ocurrence?
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If the evidence was not objective, then exactly how would they go about ruling out the idea that they had imagined the evidence?
Aside from the fact that design in nature (specified complexity) necessitates a designer - billions of people believe a god(s) exist.
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Now you're just stalling pussyassbitch. Your question is completely irrelevant in relation to mine. So again coward, why should anyone accept god as anything more than the product of someone's vivid imagination?
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In other words, Mr. Gump, you refuse to answer the question.

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Really? What evidence does science have that supports the notion that something comes from nothing?
Well, we're here, aren't we? Our very existence is proof that something had to come from nothing somehow. The how is the question, you avoid the question with a non-answer, I'd rather wait until someone has a real answer before even considering it valid.

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Do you accept the idea that the big bang was a random ocurrence?
Why not? What we perceive as random rarely is, just because we don't know all the variables doesn't mean it was ever truly random. Rolling the dice is not random, we just cannot calculate all the factors, so we perceive it as random. Your mindset is so limited you cannot even accept this, to you even drawing a card from a deck is random.

There is a principle, a law actually, in probability that states the more often your make the prediction without even knowing the variables, your probability of making a correct prediction increases, simply by changing your prediction after eliminating one possibility. It's a very well understood law actually, and proves that nothing is truly random.

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Explain.
A pattern generated by completely natural means will always be matched up by the observer's mind to some commonplace image, either imaginary or real, as a means of compression in the memory system. It's why you can remember anything at all, actually. Without it your brain would run out of space by about 20 years of age. This is also why we experience "de ja vue," which is really the mind skipping the process of recording an event that was similar enough to a past event the two seem identical. It's also the same effect we see in hallucinations, the mind reproduces the same "solid" images that it knows which closely match the random visual and auditory input, thus pink elephants when your visual nerves are seeing blood soaked, and virtually random, images from the alcohol or illness.

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Your question is irrelevant to mine I mean do you have A.D.D. Or something? But for laughs you answer my question that you keep cowering away from and I will answer your irrelevant off topic question, fair enough?

Now yet again. Why should anyone accept god as anything other than a product of someone's vivid imagination?
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In other words, Mr. Gump, you refuse to answer the question.

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You wouldn't of course, but others who do perceive that evidence would have reason to believe a god exists.
It's called confirmation bias, the same reason that "common sense" is not considered valid evidence in scientific research. It is the exact same notion that leads to monsters under the bed or in the closet, actually. A throwback to the time we first climbed from the trees, the instinct served us then, preventing us from entering shadows we could not see or venturing too close to the edge of a cliff, but now it's simply in the way.
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Well, we're here, aren't we? Our very existence is proof that something had to come from nothing somehow. The how is the question, you avoid the question with a non-answer, I'd rather wait until someone has a real answer before even considering it valid.
Yet another ridiculous assertion from the stupid gallery. Our existence is proof of no such thing! Every effect has a cause (principle of causality). Everything that begins has a cause except the big bang and Darwin's evolution. You would rather fall on a sword than admit that these scientific ideas are conspicuously flawed.

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