Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70650 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#66991 Jan 14, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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What would count for evidence for the existence of God?
Any of the anthropomorphic gods, they'd need actual photographs and no excuses of "it can't be seen by human eyes," just a photograph, video evidence would be better though, more reliable.

Any of the other types depend on the type.
John

United States

#66992 Jan 14, 2013
Thinking wrote:
How parochial you are.
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Accurate is more fitting.
John

United States

#66993 Jan 14, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Any of the anthropomorphic gods, they'd need actual photographs and no excuses of "it can't be seen by human eyes," just a photograph, video evidence would be better though, more reliable.
Any of the other types depend on the type.
Unbelievable, lmao. Just a photo or video huh? You will just know when you see it I guess. Nothing further required. Perhaps this God can perform tricks for your pleasure as well. David Copperfield might be The One. If there is a greater power that gave you a brain to use he is pissed off right now. Using his gift and telling him your requirements is quite amusing.

I would like a YouTube of your nothing becoming something. When that happens I will buy your nothing. Thank you for the laughs.

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#66994 Jan 14, 2013
John wrote:
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Unbelievable, lmao. Just a photo or video huh? You will just know when you see it I guess. Nothing further required. Perhaps this God can perform tricks for your pleasure as well. David Copperfield might be The One. If there is a greater power that gave you a brain to use he is pissed off right now. Using his gift and telling him your requirements is quite amusing.
I would like a YouTube of your nothing becoming something. When that happens I will buy your nothing. Thank you for the laughs.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.
So in other words, you have to buy the snake oil to see if it will cure cancer first. Yeah, I'm not that gullible.
John

United States

#66995 Jan 14, 2013
Close. I would also like a photograph at minimum, but video is best.

You skipped the question BTW.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#66996 Jan 14, 2013
John wrote:
Close. I would also like a photograph at minimum, but video is best.
You skipped the question BTW.
Well, since we don't say "something comes from nothing" there is no reason to address your strawman.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#66997 Jan 14, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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What would count for evidence for the existence of God?
The regeneration of a severed finger due to prayer.
John

United States

#66998 Jan 14, 2013
Well, you have a most loquacious nothing sir. Video Drew's example of the the Eiffel tower being evidence. Imagine the converts to your nonclaims.

Another round of nothing addressed. Who is next?

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. True science that is repeatable and observable. Also, on video for the most discerning skeptic tff.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#66999 Jan 14, 2013
John wrote:
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Well, I better refresh myself on which one is the salad fork then. Progressive/Liberal modern day America equals less freedom, more government, fewer jobs, more hunger,,,,
Doesn't really matter much at this point. Keep fiddling.
Less freedom? It's the con dumbs who are against freedom. They even want people to be put in jail for some consensual sex acts! They want to ban abortion. They are in favor of drug laws, voter ID laws. The con dumbs want more government. They want government to tell people how to run their lives.
John

United States

#67000 Jan 14, 2013
Rose you may be the head loon. Government is at 16 percent of gdp and growing. Thank Obama, your clown prince. He continually pisses on the Constitution. Which amendments would you like to keep slave? The patriot act has expanded, your illegal wars have expanded, Guantanamo is open. Too busy marching for your nothing to speak out against what I damn well know you used to before your benevolent ruler scanned you.
Of course the freedom to kill the most innocent both here and abroad with taxpayers money is increasing. You got me there. One child butchered every ninety something seconds.

Nothing forbid you have to prove you are a citizen to vote. How draconian. Next thing you know you will need ID for beer or driving. Oh wait, illegals are getting to do that now as well. Got me again.

The laundry list is endless. Obama needed trillions more to screw up what hadn't been achieved in a couple hundred years.

Be careful what you wish for, because its coming.

You will argue any fact that doesn't fit your narrative. Government has expanded exponentially under Obama. There are regulations for regulations. You are either an anti-American radical or beyond stupid. I think both.

On behalf of all the un and underemployed. On behalf of a bankrupted future. On behalf of what was once the beacon on the hill. Thank you Rose.

You will have to live with the repercussions. I'll survive. Good luck to the fat, old women driving Prius with coexist stickers. Mad Max ya ain't.

Now tell me about your nothing, or come up with some new lies.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#67001 Jan 14, 2013
But not applicable to you.
Stump John. Wave some tin foil in front of him.
John wrote:
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Accurate is more fitting.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#67002 Jan 14, 2013
But that could just be an advanced science. I'd need more proof before I joined a Cargo Cult.
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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The regeneration of a severed finger due to prayer.
John

United States

#67003 Jan 14, 2013
How cute, the old tinfoil routine. Get your nothing out of here!

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#67004 Jan 14, 2013
John wrote:
Rose you may be the head loon. Government is at 16 percent of gdp and growing. Thank Obama,
Why do con dumbs just randomly throw Obama's name into any argument?

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#67005 Jan 14, 2013
Thinking wrote:
But that could just be an advanced science. I'd need more proof before I joined a Cargo Cult.
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I specifically said it regenerated due to prayer. How we would determine if the regeneration was caused by prayer or science is a separate issue.
Lincoln

United States

#67006 Jan 14, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Why do con dumbs just randomly
throw Obama's name into any argument?
Tea Party retardation?

They just lost the election and can not think straight?

They are racist?
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#67007 Jan 14, 2013
Which could just be an advanced science. A bit like remotely dropping the roof on a convertible in front of stone age people.

I'd still need more proof before ditching my Wizard of Oz hypothesis.
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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I specifically said it regenerated due to prayer. How we would determine if the regeneration was caused by prayer or science is a separate issue.
John

United States

#67008 Jan 14, 2013
....and there it is LOL. Facts are a tricky thing for you loons. Tick, tock.
John

United States

#67009 Jan 14, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Why do con dumbs just randomly throw Obama's name into any argument?
Running away from your clown prince Rose? Smartest play of your life.

We can go back to your nothing if you would like.

That damn tea party, how dare they want fiscal sanity. Get them some tinfoil. Government spending is no issue without a budget. Oops, no budget. Good grief is this wasn't so serious I'd really be entertained.

March Obamabots, march! Food stamps for everone.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#67010 Jan 14, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Here is my accountable position. Again.
1. If god exists, there is evidence of his existence.
2. There is no evidence of his existence.
3. There is no god.
No matter how many times I post my accountable position, and ask you to debate, you won't.
I ask you, let's start with point 1.
OK?
Do you agree or not?
You won't answer. I know that, as does anybody who has followed this forum for more than 2 days. I just want new comers to see how you dodge.
Stump John, ask him to debate.
Hello Rose

Point 1 "If god exists, there is evidence of his existence."

I disagree. It would be more correctly written, "If God exists, then is there evidence of God's existence?", or you could say, "Is there evidence of God's existence?", or you could say, "Does evidence exist that proves that God exists?".

You are assuming in your statement that God exists because there is evidence. And you make a conclusion with Point 2 based on an assumption. That assumption would be incorrect if God exists outside of Creation, and therefore outside of certain types of evidence.

To answer this one must consider what constitutes evidence, in what framework are we applying that evidence, and thirdly, can God(being Creator, and thus outside of Creation(by definition)) be evidenced within Creation?

If you agree, then we can go on.
If you disagree, then we can discuss this point further.
If you would rather not discuss the point. This ends now.

If we go on, then we have to agree what consitutes evidence, and the framework in which it is presented.

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