Atheists on the march in America

[-Skeptic-]

postscriptt wrote:

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I said rocks are aware - I didn't say they could talk. If you want to engage in meaningful discussion, you will have to learn how to comprehend what you read.

meaningful discussion starts with you, a known creationist liar, first proving your god.

[KittenKoder]

postscriptt wrote:

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ZING! Dawkins wrote, "I do not, by nature, thrive on confrontation. I don't think the adversarial format is well designed to get at the truth …" And yet, Dawkin's entire book is one long rant against Christianity. The man would do well to practice what he preaches.

He has other books. But so? He addresses the majority of fallacies he encounters, they just happen to be mostly christian. If you'd stop using fallacies, he'd have to find a new topic, no?

[KittenKoder]

postscriptt wrote:

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Your evidence is at best ambiguous - your logic, sketchy. But then, what else is new? Flat statements with no basis in knowledge, is your forte.

Actually, I posted an ad hom. It's accuracy is debatable, but you have provided evidence to support it.

[postscriptt]

-Skeptic- wrote:

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meaningful discussion starts with you, a known creationist liar, first proving your god.

And ends with you - a religious bigot. Religions can at least shun or excommunicate the dregs it attracts, but atheists don't have that luxury. They have to endure brain dead bigoted morons like you who attach themselves to the cause like ticks to a host.

[postscriptt]

KittenKoder wrote:

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Actually, I posted an ad hom. It's accuracy is debatable, but you have provided evidence to support it.

Was it your own post or somebody else's?

[postscriptt]

KittenKoder wrote:

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He has other books. But so? He addresses the majority of fallacies he encounters, they just happen to be mostly christian. If you'd stop using fallacies, he'd have to find a new topic, no?

Like a carcinoma just happens to be malignant? LOL!

[KittenKoder]

postscriptt wrote:

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Was it your own post or somebody else's?

Actually, it was your posts, most of them.

[KittenKoder]

postscriptt wrote:

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Like a carcinoma just happens to be malignant? LOL!

It does, can you provide evidence otherwise?

[postscriptt]

KittenKoder wrote:

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It does, can you provide evidence otherwise?

non sequitur

[KittenKoder]

postscriptt wrote:

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non sequitur

Thank you for admitting your point was invalid.

[JohnInLa]

KittenKoder wrote:

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Thank you for admitting your point was invalid.

Attention PussyKoder!!! At an atheist funeral the deceased is all dressed up and going nowhere.
BTW, Since you boasted about your ability to borrow money perhaps you can start a business and tell everyone how things go for you under an obamanation especially at tax time...Hop to it.

[JohnInLa]

Yepper 77% of Americans no matter how much you earn will pay more taxes for 2013. The idea you were safe if you were not an evil millionaire was the sugar on the poop you consumed...you stupid sht eating bassturds.

[KittenKoder]

JohnInLa wrote:

<quoted text>Attention PussyKoder!!! At an atheist funeral the deceased is all dressed up and going nowhere.
BTW, Since you boasted about your ability to borrow money perhaps you can start a business and tell everyone how things go for you under an obamanation especially at tax time...Hop to it.

Well, since it's just a corpse at that stage, it's sort of difficult for it to ambulate, unless it's a zombie.

Oh hey! You worship zombies, don't you? Yeah, he wasn't even dressed up, he was just a zombie.

[polymath257]

postscriptt wrote:

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As stated previously, consciousness is "awareized" energy existing in all matter.

Whatever *that* means. I have a suspicion that your understanding of energy is at the Star trek level.

There is conscious and nonconscious information. The physical senses are rudimentary extentions of the inner senses.

Inner senses, eh? And what, precisely, are those?

In the physical realm, one must be awake to "express" conscious information. The inner senses are pathways to an inner reality, or nonconscious information. To access this reality, one need not be conscious, or awake.

Nice fantasy you have there.

A rock, like a comatose patient cannot verbalize its awareness in the usual sense, but this does not mean that it is not aware of itself and its surroundings just as a coma does not mean that nothing is perceived.

Rocks have nothing to perceive with. They are simply chemicals in well-defined structures that don't react to their environment significantly.

Rocks as molecular structures send out their own expressions of awareized energy, and unless you are tuned in to perceive them, you may interpret these expressions as static or meaningless noise.

Or nothing at all. So, what exactly would be something 'tuned' to detect these 'awareized energies'? Let's make a device that detects them and measures them and we can bring all of this into the realm of science. Otherwise, all you have is some fantasies.

We don't "lose" consciousness. It is always there - it simply can't express through an anesthesized unresponsive brain.

The evidence says otherwise (depending, of course, on the type of anesthesia).

Neuroscientists would take issue with this statement.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/2484...

Yes, what we usually call consciousness is a complex collection of interactions at all brain levels. Basic awareness is different than consciousness.

Actually to be aware doesn't require a brain at all. Jellyfish have no brain or central nervous system yet the ability to change position or direction while swimming requires an awareness of their environment to avoid running into things willy nilly.

Jellyfish have nervous systems that react to stimuli. Their neural nets are very simplistic and don't allow for 'awareness' or, certainly, consciousness. The reaction is much closer to what we have as reflexes, but even more primitive. Reflexes are not consciousness.

[JohnInLa]

Yes indeed, the well protected mayor bloomberg found a bunch of overpaid hollywood actors to make an anti-gun ad to influence people that they don't need a gun because a punk wastes his mother, 20 little kids and 6 unarmed adults who complied with their school's "Gun Free Zone Signs." A counter ad was produced showing clips of the actors using guns in their films for mass murder...so much for their credibility.
It does not matter if the perp has a toothpick or was bare handed. If it is their intent to harm and kill then it should be the intentions of anyone in charge of the weak to use whatever means necessary to stop such an attack. A flame thrower comes to mind followed by buckshot.
The fact is loughner, holmes and lanza are not part of any organization dedicated to Protecting and Defending The United States Constitution...or is bloomberg et al. People like loughner, holmes and lanza are residue from the history illiterate politically inept slugs that bloomberg, obama et al depend on for votes.

[JohnInLa]

KittenKoder wrote:

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Well, since it's just a corpse at that stage, it's sort of difficult for it to ambulate, unless it's a zombie.
Oh hey! You worship zombies, don't you? Yeah, he wasn't even dressed up, he was just a zombie.

Attention PussyKoder!!! If at all possible try to place yourself in a spiritual realm or try to achieve chi otherwise you're just a nut and bolt...cross threaded no less.

[KittenKoder]

JohnInLa wrote:

<quoted text>Attention PussyKoder!!! If at all possible try to place yourself in a spiritual realm or try to achieve chi otherwise you're just a nut and bolt...cross threaded no less.

Well, first show one exists so I can find it.

[JohnInLa]

KittenKoder wrote:

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Well, first show one exists so I can find it.

Attention PussyKoder!!! You could try jumping off a 10 story building, I believe you'll find God on the 8th floor in home decor.

[JohnInLa]

Today’s special quizzie for obamaroids...

Would you allow yourself to associate and to be mentored for years by an individual who proposed killing parents and perhaps 25,000,000 Americans in death camps, obviously hated America, planted bombs everywhere with one of those bombs suspected of killing a police officer and maiming another. And who also designed a bomb that blew up killing his girlfriend and two comrades all while that bomb was intended for US Soldiers and civilians at Fort Dix NJ...Would you allow yourself to associate with such a deranged individual, Yes or No?
If your answer is no then why did you vote for b. h. obama who is an individual who did associate and was mentored for years by the communist-terrorist bill ayers and who launched his political career from the home of bill ayers? America eagerly awaits your replies...no spins please.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individual...

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfi...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1222128560757...

[JohnInLa]

Wall Street Government wrote:

<quoted text> I need to to tell them?
Teabaggers have been doing that since the tea party was formed.
If you're not a teabagger, you're an Anti-American communist.
Then there is this:
Everyone knows that Tea Party revolutionaries fear and hate socialism about as much as the Antichrist. Which is funny, because the Tea Party movement’s dirty little secret is that it owes its existence to the grandaddy of all Antichrists: the godless empire of the USSR.
What few realize is that the secretive oil billionaires of the Koch family, the main supporters of the right-wing groups that orchestrated the Tea Party movement, would not have the means to bankroll their favorite causes had it not been for the pile of money the family made working for the Bolsheviks in the late 1920s and early 1930s, building refineries, training Communist engineers and laying down the foundation of Soviet oil infrastructure.
Poor teabagger.

Attention Wall Street Communist!!! Yes indeed you have flipped your lid, douchebagger.
Once again...Your sleazy attempt to connect the USSR to Koch in the early part of the past century and to The Tea Party in 2011 is a deranged joke.
Let me educate you and your like minded history illiterate libelous pals...The entire USA, The entire UK et al allied with Stalin during WWII. That fact alone cancels your self-serving knee jerk assumption that you can single anyone out from the era like you and your ilk have done to the relatives of the Koch brothers. Furthermore, any oil related assistance provided by the USA, Koch et al to the USSR prior to WWII obviously was key for the USSR to defeat Nazis. The Cold War began in 1946, douchebagger.
You are one pathetic libelous runt talking out your butt stooping lower than a snake's belly trying to connect dots that obviously cannot be connected. You are a useful idiot for the communist party sleazebags who are stinking up American politics, those dots connect.