Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70650 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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John

United States

#66928 Jan 12, 2013
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 64,200 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#66929 Jan 12, 2013
John wrote:
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No, they are just stumped bigots. I notice you have nothing as well.
I bet your next post also doesn't contain any proof of god.
Lincoln

United States

#66930 Jan 12, 2013
John wrote:
You make the ..........Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would!
Nonsense
John

United States

#66931 Jan 12, 2013
The above is the same nothing vomited out since page one. This is an atheism forum. Do you bigots have any evidence or accountable position? Of course you don't. Why are you bringing up a God you don't believe in Septic? Nothing of your own huh?
John

United States

#66932 Jan 12, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Nonsense
Strong evidence of your nothing! Over and over and over and over.....
Lincoln

United States

#66933 Jan 12, 2013
John wrote:
.... This is an atheism forum.....
This is a free country, Not an atheist forum.

More than 9 in 10 Americans still say "YES" when asked the basic question "Do you believe in God?"; this is down only slightly from the 1940s, when Gallup first asked this question.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#66934 Jan 12, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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You tend to use "I" a great deal.
"I think I caught..."
"I do skim..."
"I asked a..... "
You seem a bit self important?
Atheists may be bored with you?
I've tried to get John to debate, but he won't. He just posts the same 3 or 4 posts again and again.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#66935 Jan 12, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
What if we made Ozzy the Pope?:)
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Pft, he already sold out.:P
Lincoln

United States

#66936 Jan 12, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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I've tried to get John to debate, but he won't. He just posts the same 3 or 4 posts again and again.
seems fun here if no too serious.

Downton Abbey tomorrow evening, enjoyable English gift to American television

“I'm out hunting”

Since: Jan 10

For your mind and soul

#66937 Jan 12, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Greater the claim
the greater the evidence nede.
Do you feel the US will ever become a secular nation?
Yes, I believe so.

“I'm out hunting”

Since: Jan 10

For your mind and soul

#66938 Jan 12, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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It was a secular nation. The Christian right in this country would like to make it a theocratic oligarchy.
Some other modern secular nations would include Sweden, Denmark, Japan, etc. Modern secular nations routinely score better on livability indicators such as low felony rates, low teenage pregnancy, high math & sciences graduates, etc. The U.S. isn't one of these.
Usually the more secular a society, the more better it is. That is because humans learn how to understand, approach, and deal with human nature in a rational way, rather then through the ideas of cavemen and skydaddies.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#66939 Jan 12, 2013
His ways are not our own.
Thinking wrote:
Not a role model though. Sharon used to come into our local florists with very large sunglasses to cover her bruises.:(
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Since: Mar 11

United States

#66940 Jan 12, 2013
Your numbers are incorrect in your bandwagon fallacy argument. Over 30% of Americans age 18-30 claim to believe in a god.
Lincoln wrote:
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This is a free country, Not an atheist forum.
More than 9 in 10 Americans still say "YES" when asked the basic question "Do you believe in God?"; this is down only slightly from the 1940s, when Gallup first asked this question.
Lincoln

United States

#66941 Jan 12, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text> Usually the more secular a society, the more better it is. That is because humans learn how to understand, approach, and deal with human nature in a rational way, rather then through the ideas of cavemen and skydaddies.
"the more better it is" :-)

seems a generalization
John

United States

#66942 Jan 12, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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I've tried to get John to debate, but he won't. He just posts the same 3 or 4 posts again and again.
Except you haven't Rose. Provide any accountable position of belief that meets the evidentiary standards you hold others to. You, seriously don't expect me to debate nothing or whichever ridiculous assertion of the day you throw out?

Get your nothing out of here!
John

United States

#66943 Jan 12, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text> Usually the more secular a society, the more better it is. That is because humans learn how to understand, approach, and deal with human nature in a rational way, rather then through the ideas of cavemen and skydaddies.
The more secular a society the more people butchered. There is no rationality, logic, or evidence for your nothing. Poof, the giant spaghetti nothing assembles something from nothing in an ordered way that defies mathematical possibility LOL.

We get you don't believe in God. What do you believe in this arena? Nothing is the answer of course. You have no evidence for any possibility but focus in your own weird way on one....with transparent specificity.

Time and again you loons avoid any debate choosing instead to impotently attempt marginalizing something you don't believe in.

Rename the forum Nothings march for an agenda shirking all intellectual honesty.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#66944 Jan 13, 2013
So John why should anyone accept god as anything more than a product of someone's imagination?

Another day I ask this and another day of ineptitude from the believers. Answer the question or get your nothing out of here!

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#66945 Jan 13, 2013
John wrote:
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Except you haven't Rose. Provide any accountable position of belief that meets the evidentiary standards you hold others to. You, seriously don't expect me to debate nothing or whichever ridiculous assertion of the day you throw out?
Get your nothing out of here!
Oh look, its another post from John with no proof of god in it. I bet the next one also has no proof of god in it.

When will John realise that he's lying about god?
John

United States

#66947 Jan 13, 2013
As usual nothing but an attempt to steer the narrative to a God you don't believe in. This is an atheism forum. I've asked what you believe bigots.

Since you like to futilely mock a prime mover I offered to debate the reasons and evidences to believe in a prime mover vs any accountable position you care to explain. You don't want any part of that either. I don't debate nothing, but keep trotting it out lmao.

Give me Liberty- great name. Big supporter of our freedoms and amendments I suppose. Nah, probably another Obama kook.

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. True science that is repeatable and observable.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#66948 Jan 13, 2013
John wrote:
As usual nothing but an attempt to steer the narrative to a God you don't believe in.
Nope, the narrative is about the unfounded *belief* in a god. You know, the one you can't seem to find any evidence for?

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